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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 21 2012 23:29 GMT
#370
On October 22 2012 08:26 drazak wrote:
I'm not AWOL, with family until 10 or 11pm EST, can only phone post, only caught someone calling me awol. Sorry. I'll be back with more in a few hours.


Sooo you were content not posting until someone called you awol?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 21 2012 23:40 GMT
#372
On October 22 2012 08:35 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 08:29 Hapahauli wrote:
On October 22 2012 08:26 drazak wrote:
I'm not AWOL, with family until 10 or 11pm EST, can only phone post, only caught someone calling me awol. Sorry. I'll be back with more in a few hours.


Sooo you were content not posting until someone called you awol?


meh, i'll wait. if he's actually away and checking on his phone i can understand that as a reaction. phone posting is a bitch.


Not sure if I'm allowed to use out-of-thread evidence, but he's on #tlmafia IRC ya know.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 21 2012 23:45 GMT
#375
On October 22 2012 08:44 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 08:40 Hapahauli wrote:
On October 22 2012 08:35 marvellosity wrote:
On October 22 2012 08:29 Hapahauli wrote:
On October 22 2012 08:26 drazak wrote:
I'm not AWOL, with family until 10 or 11pm EST, can only phone post, only caught someone calling me awol. Sorry. I'll be back with more in a few hours.


Sooo you were content not posting until someone called you awol?


meh, i'll wait. if he's actually away and checking on his phone i can understand that as a reaction. phone posting is a bitch.


Not sure if I'm allowed to use out-of-thread evidence, but he's on #tlmafia IRC ya know.

I'm on #tlmafia irc too! Does that mean I am therefor not posting from my phone?

Don't be ridiculous.

(Note: I am not familiar with draz's irc habits. Maybe he turn irc off anytime that he leaves the computer. I, however, do not. So your base accusation is flawed.)


Oh there are irc phone apps? I honestly don't know.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 21 2012 23:50 GMT
#377
On October 22 2012 08:47 Keirathi wrote:
Yes, there are. That's not what I meant though. Unless you mean draz is currently talking on irc, which is different from just being ON irc. My computer has irc on even though I'm not at my house right now.


Oh that's fair. I don't have a cellphone capable of internet access lol - never crossed my mind.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 21 2012 23:52 GMT
#378
Also @ iamp

Patriots win, you may resume posting nao =D
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 22 2012 00:11 GMT
#381
Well now that you're not stressed out about the NFL - thoughts on recent events? Especially Kei. Throw in Z-Bo and austin while you're at it.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 22 2012 00:23 GMT
#387
On October 22 2012 09:19 iamperfection wrote:
...
and even though you didn't ask I'm null on you. i'll never trust you after are first meeting.


T.T
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 22 2012 01:06 GMT
#396
Well vaderseven, it's hard not to be suspicious of you when you peace out for a day. You have a lot of ground to make up in my eyes.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 22 2012 01:12 GMT
#398
On October 22 2012 10:09 vaderseven wrote:
Ask me about something instead of being like welp that thing that anyone can do has you fo sure the lynch for today.


The main reason I was suspicious of you was because of the inactivity, and you already gave an explanation for that. Anywho, I want to see you elaborate your read on Drazak as well as any other scum/town reads you may have.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 22 2012 01:17 GMT
#400
On October 22 2012 10:15 vaderseven wrote:
Elobarte? I said scummiest cuz i have weak reads overall. I find his posts about me like whwn he talks about joke posts being scummy to be a very weak way to appear to be adding to the case on me so that he isnt labeled a parrot/sheep.


You don't have to elaborate now - there's no deadline to D1.

Take your time, catch up in the thread, and then give us reads. I won't vote you in the meantime - I promise.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 22 2012 01:30 GMT
#402
So you have no opinions on anyone but a really slight scumread on Draz?

I mean listen, you have a chance to take some time to make some reads, and that's all you're willing to come up with?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 22 2012 01:48 GMT
#405
No no I think we're not understanding each other. Take some time to read the thread, come back tomorrow, and give us better-informed reads. What you're giving us right now is absolutely useless, both for determining your alignment and helping town at all.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 22 2012 02:01 GMT
#409
On October 22 2012 10:58 vaderseven wrote:
I can do that.


Cool. I do expect some good stuff though. Also, please do try and be involved in conversations while you're catching up. Will you have problems with activity tomorrow?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 22 2012 02:30 GMT
#419
@ Draz

Dump some reads on us - who do you think is town/scum/whatever?

@ V7
You are grasping at straws. I read the thread on my phone and its day 1 and you think what I have posted the past like hour males me super scum?

It pisses me off to see you posting stuff like this. I mean what are we supposed to think of you? Fact of the matter is that you posted a bunch of early D1 fluff then peace'd out of the thread for an entire day. Based on your play so far, are we not supposed to think you are scummy? Because if you take out your RL excuse, it's very scummy at face value.

And tbh, I still don't know what to think of you. Posts like these really wierd me out:
You want me to make something up? There is so lil confirmed facts during day 1 that any read at all is a huge like leap of faith. My read on draz is only noticable to me because of early in the game it is. I guesd im just seeing you say that I should have more reads RIGHT now as just wrong.


You've apparently played 50 games of mafia and are supposedly pretty good at this game. When I see stuff like "D1 reads are useless" from a player with your experience, especially when I urge you to take some time to read the thread, that reads as scummy to me.

Lastly:
I am working 14 hour days the next 20 days unless we can get a new employee like NOW but ill make it happpen.


Do you have time to play this game? I want to know now, because we're going to have some problems if you keep pulling these disappearing acts.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 22 2012 02:36 GMT
#420
@ Kei

Please comment on things other than just defending yourself. That would be much more helpful.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 22 2012 05:31 GMT
#433
@ Kei

We're about 48 hours into the game, and you have done literally nothing since early D1. The only post in the last ~36 hours or so that does not involve your self-defense is the following:
On October 22 2012 06:42 Keirathi wrote:
Anyways:

Slightly town on DP. Kind of town on iamp.

Still slightly scummy on Draz, but not enough that I would vote him at this point without more content.

No one else has really stuck out in the limited amount of time I've actually been able to read and research people. I'm not going to just make up reads that I don't believe in, so meh.

...and that's only because I asked you to provide your reads.

Now what I don't understand is why you're feeling so goddamn helpless on D1. You're more than happy to defend yourself aggressively, but any time we even approach you about taking a stance or making a definitive read, you go into a shell.

We've had 48 hours and ~20 pages of posts. It's getting beyond ridiculous at this point for you to keep doing this. If you are town, your job isn't to only make reads - you have to convince us that you're town. Sitting back and defending yourself is not the way to do this (if you're scum though, carry on).

Both you and v7 have this "omg I can't make D1 reads" attitude that drive me nuts. Is there something preventing you from making a read before a goddamn flip? Like atleast TRY to do something or atleast voice your opinion.

I'm honestly tempted to flip a freggin coin between the two of you and lynch one of you just for the principle of it.

Bed. Goodnight, and if either of you are town, please be useful.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 22 2012 16:47 GMT
#463
oh huh that's actually pretty good. I'll give Z-Bo yet another look.

The wonders of D1 scumhunting.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 22 2012 17:08 GMT
#464
@ DP
On October 23 2012 00:35 DarthPunk wrote:
WEll I for one have tried pushing a lynch on drazak. But noone agreed with me QQ.

As far as I am concerned all we are waiting on is V7 to come and make his promised post. If he doesn't. Or it is unsatisfactory we lynch him. I don't feel like anyone aside from draz and V7 are partciularly inactive or lazy.

Draz is still by far my biggest scum read and t has only strengthened. He was called out for inactivity be several of us if I recall correctly. And the post he made was simply a summary of the thread with no real input of his own. Not really scum hunting. Sheeping. etc.

Very passive. Without taking a stance. Whcih is odd coming from someone who parked a 'pressure' vote on someone for over 24 hours.


Problem is that this is Draz's town meta as well. I'm of the opinion that what he's done isn't alignment indicative so far.

@ Austin
On October 23 2012 00:16 austinmcc wrote:
Catching up now, but wanted to throw something out here. It may be anti-town, but I don't quite think it is.

I want to lynch someone. Maybe I'm bloodthirsty, maybe I agree that it's easier to work with flips, maybe I just want the game to move forward so we can actually play mafia instead of D1 hand-holding or whatever it is we're up to. But I would like to lynch a player, sooner, rather than later. I think there are benefits and drawbacks to both town and scum if we let D1 drag on forever, and probably only drawbacks to hosts. As much as I want to keep swapping votes around and see how quickly blazinghand can give updated votecounts...we're not making the setup work for us. We're just dithering around and doing very little.

So I propose we lynch a player. Right now, the player that I want to lynch is v7, see vote. I will look closer at keirathi and hapa while at work today, and going to look marv over as well. If I want to lynch any of them more than v7, then I'll swap my vote and try to drum up support. But this is getting silly and we're all LETTING it get silly.

I would like others' thoughts on this. I don't think an infinite-length D1 actually helps us, and I don't think it makes everyone invested in the game. Look at how lazy most of the thread is, because there's no pressure to do anything. Don't want to contribute? Okay. Just contribute tomorrow, deadline is infinite, no problems guys. That is TRUE, but it's crap, and it's not useful to us imo.

btw, apart from my normal paranoia, this is one thing that makes me suspicious of marv. I know he doesn't like to play setup games, but I would expect townmarv to be a little more bloodthirsty, be pushing someone a little more, and not be willing to play infinite D1 pattycake.

Am I the only one with this thought? Are people just worried to type it out because "let's lynch someone NOW, instead of later with more information" feels like it might be anti-town?


Agree here, I'd like a flip as well. However, I do want to wait until we here some from v7. I think shooting for a 72-hour day at this point is realistic.

Since you brought up marv - he hasn't stuck much out to me which is odd, and I feel he's a bit detatched from the game. But part of it is probably because of his afk'ness in the first 24 hours, as well as just finishing another mini. I'll have my eye on him, but I'm not lynching him today.



@ Kei

Typing a Z-Bo post atm.

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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 22 2012 17:23 GMT
#466
Regarding Z-Bo

#1) I don't think his v7 contradiction (attacking me for "easy" read while having an easy read himself) is lynchable on its own. It's definitely strange, and I want an answer for it, but I'm not lynching him for that alone. One of my general hesitancies with lynching Z-Bo based on that read is him being all-over-the-place in terms of suspicions. He's building cases on a bunch of people in the thread, and that lines up pretty well with his townie meta (though, he has no recent scumgames, so it could be scummy as well for all we know. I'll have to look into that more)

#2) There's one other thing I want an answer for in his filter though.

On October 22 2012 07:16 Z-BosoN wrote:
Man, are you really gonna dive into the semantics?
1) Ok, you want me to say it was a Good fake case? ffs
2) To be frank, I didn't bother checking the exact time frame.

Your uber-confidence was an assumption I made based on this:
Show nested quote +
What's there to answer? You haven't asked me anything about the v7 vote that I didn't answer already. You still also have not addressed why you don't think my rationale is insufficient.


You are confident on your vote, not confident on him being scum.

To be clear, try this:
Show nested quote +
So, based on your weird-ass interpretation of the word "unjust", you unvote someone you had a scum-read on, a vote which came before he went afk for an additional 12 hours or more.


Also, you are still not being concise about my "Hypocrisy". Again. you took a small portion of my case and used it to deem it weak, fake, forced, bad, whatever. That's a bunch of crap if you are really trying to find scumminess in my filter. Unjust too whiny a word? Try ridiculous.

This is LVII all over again. I'm done with you. Unless you actually really really find me scum (in which case, please, carry on), then this is pointless. I find you suspicious, I don't understand some of your actions, I found your initial meta off (now it's pretty much dead on) but that's about it, I'm not lynching you over v7/Keir and I will need more time to think if your actions make more sense from townie you or scummy you.


The statement at the end there (bolded) makes no sense with the rest of that paragraph. In LVII, I was town, and Z-Bo is treating me in that first line like I'm town - the only rationale he acknowledges for my "tunneling" of him is if I find him scum (that I'm town). Then in his second sentence, he's all of a sudden suspicious of me, which is of direct contrast with his first statement.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 22 2012 17:28 GMT
#467
^ To elaborate on the LVII line - in LVII, we were both townies, and he seems to be suggesting that this game was a similar town-on-town violence situation. Then he find me suspicious, then says my meta is dead on. Weeeee.
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