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On October 22 2012 08:03 Keirathi wrote: How was my ability to meta read you in any way related to the case against me being scum? :o eh, I meant that in general you have a strong grasp of meta and its uses. | ||
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On October 22 2012 08:10 Hapahauli wrote: @ Marv I know Kei's a smart guy and all, but you're suggesting he planned this out from Day 1? The self-aware meta thing doesn't make sense here. If you disagree with my rationale before (general attitude toward suspicion), then that's cool, but self-awareness isn't a valid reason here. Naw, not planned out, but the thing that made me think about it was the first post where he was like "meh, I don't have reads". Anyways, not really willing to give a time to hammer on vader. We'll do it when it's time to do it. | ||
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On October 22 2012 08:22 Keirathi wrote: It's not like saying "I don't have reads" is unprecedented for me, as town. You just have to decide if this time I'm saying it as scum instead. Yes, I know dear. Can you see why I might be having difficulty? ^^ | ||
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On October 22 2012 08:29 Hapahauli wrote: Sooo you were content not posting until someone called you awol? meh, i'll wait. if he's actually away and checking on his phone i can understand that as a reaction. phone posting is a bitch. | ||
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On October 22 2012 09:30 Keirathi wrote: A complement by calling me scum? LOL Anyways, I always find it extremely hard to get a solid grasp on anyone in day 1. And I've almost gotten lynched for it like 3 times. I mean, I know it's my fault, bu it just gets extremely tiring. But I'm not going to force reads that I don't believe in either. I tried that before and got called out too. I would rather be indecisive than pretend to be decisive and be wrong. How would you feel if town lynched vader? Would you think it a good lynch? A bad lynch? | ||
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On October 22 2012 13:40 Keirathi wrote: @DP: The difference is that you had a well presented, logical, solid case. It was strong enough that it probably could have gotten me lynched, but it would have been over something worth being lynched for. The cases against me this game mostly boil down to "I expect better" or "he could be fucking with his meta", which is lazy scumhunting and a terrible reason to lynch me. Which is why I've spent so much time questioning the people who keep limping in to the case against me. This might be one of the most infuriating things I've ever read in mafia. Douchebag who does ZERO scumhunting calls others lazy scumhunters. Fuck you. | ||
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who benefits from doing jack shit for town? town or scum? Right. | ||
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 screw you too, DP. Mainly because I wanted to carry on being angry but you made me smile instead ^^ | ||
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On October 23 2012 00:16 austinmcc wrote: Catching up now, but wanted to throw something out here. It may be anti-town, but I don't quite think it is. I want to lynch someone. Maybe I'm bloodthirsty, maybe I agree that it's easier to work with flips, maybe I just want the game to move forward so we can actually play mafia instead of D1 hand-holding or whatever it is we're up to. But I would like to lynch a player, sooner, rather than later. I think there are benefits and drawbacks to both town and scum if we let D1 drag on forever, and probably only drawbacks to hosts. As much as I want to keep swapping votes around and see how quickly blazinghand can give updated votecounts...we're not making the setup work for us. We're just dithering around and doing very little. So I propose we lynch a player. Right now, the player that I want to lynch is v7, see vote. I will look closer at keirathi and hapa while at work today, and going to look marv over as well. If I want to lynch any of them more than v7, then I'll swap my vote and try to drum up support. But this is getting silly and we're all LETTING it get silly. I would like others' thoughts on this. I don't think an infinite-length D1 actually helps us, and I don't think it makes everyone invested in the game. Look at how lazy most of the thread is, because there's no pressure to do anything. Don't want to contribute? Okay. Just contribute tomorrow, deadline is infinite, no problems guys. That is TRUE, but it's crap, and it's not useful to us imo. btw, apart from my normal paranoia, this is one thing that makes me suspicious of marv. I know he doesn't like to play setup games, but I would expect townmarv to be a little more bloodthirsty, be pushing someone a little more, and not be willing to play infinite D1 pattycake. Am I the only one with this thought? Are people just worried to type it out because "let's lynch someone NOW, instead of later with more information" feels like it might be anti-town? Agree that infinite length days are not a help to town; on the flip side if there's any day for it to happen, Day 1 is that day, with the lack of a lynch flip and a NK flip (or otherwise). I can understand you being a bit suspicious of me for it austin; unfortunately I'm not a miracle worker. I can point you to at least a couple of town games where people have said "marv isn't his usual incisive self day 1" - I believe you may have been in at least one of those and maybe you were one of the ones who put forth this view. The fact is, this game is hard - we have a learning newbie in drazak, we have an often afk vader, we have a Kei with external problems too (I'm sorry to hear it mate). In this environment it's quite hard for me to go "yes! this is what needs to be done! gogogo!". Add to this is the fact I only became thread-active just over a day ago (yes, I know this is down to me, but it's still what it is). Anyway, you can take it or leave it I guess. Where I stand right now: vader is my top scumread, but I *do* want to hear what he has to say. His appearance in the thread last night hasn't really assuaged my concerns at all, mostly because of the combination of his absolutely indignant posts on being called out and the fact he's referenced playing a fair chunk of mafia games. Kei, I want you to do your best with what time you have. You're in the position at the moment that I often think of with trolls (NOT saying you are a troll), which is: If everyone played like this, would town be able to function/progress/do anything? The answer to that question is clearly no and that's a problem. I have a chess match this evening but I will be around for some hours and hopefully people have posted more and we'll be able to make a decision. If it's going to 96 hours, it really is getting too much. | ||
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Unless I missed it, I don't think Z-Bo ever answer Kei's original question of where his v7 scumread appeared from? I've just been through Z-Bo's filter and it indeed just appears and I can't find an explanation. Hopefully I'm not being a fucking dumbass. Z-Bo, explain please? Further, what is your current read on vader and why? Hapa has the right idea with his drazak and v7 post. When two people are shouting at each other, the natural scum reaction is to let it roll, or even throw wood on to the fire, rather than actually do anything about making it stop. On a little sidenote, it's why I found austin's play kinda adorable, because he was trying to push a policy idea but was being roundly ignored, so his reaction was to keep pushing the same idea in the same way, only to be unsurprisingly ignored again  Anyway, vader fits perfectly into the throwing-wood-on-to-the-fire mould, basically egging on the aggressiveness in the thread when there was no need for him to do so. Also, unlike austin, I see his 'I'm going through filter' thing as pretty scummy - like he's going through the motions rather than trying to push something constructive into the thread. BUT LOOK, I'M LOOKING AT PEOPLE'S SHIT?! No. Don't buy it. Every time I see vader post, he's not making me think any more that he's town. This scumbo gotta hang. ##Vote vaderseven. | ||
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Who said I was trying to find scum from that alone? :/ With regards to that Kei thing, you are his top read and he wants to lynch you. That seems like fair dinkum to me. | ||
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On October 23 2012 07:31 Z-BosoN wrote: Calling me a jerk does nothing to aggravate my skirmish with Hapa. That's uncalled for, but it's not throwing wood to the fire, as you mentioned. Reading  I disagree, in a heated thread, someone else throwing heat is the opposite of helpful. | ||
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Are you actually finding vader less scummy now or are you just going back on your policy because you're feeling capricious? | ||
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