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On October 22 2012 00:26 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 00:21 marvellosity wrote:
Dear austin,
Please would you start being more obscure and absent. I wish to have my customary scumread on you.
Sincerely,
marvelbabe It's worrying me too. I had started to find you scummy in LC because you hadn't said I was scummy and disinterested, until you finally did later in the day.
On a somewhat serious note, you are more involved than I'm used to seeing out of you in the first portion of a Day 1. Anything in particular prompted that, dear?
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DP - fair. I do a fine line of obnoxiously ungraceful as well.
austin - yes, that sounds reasonable. Esp. vis-a-vis Looney, where you confused the fuck out of me a lot of the time, glad your posting has moved away from that quite a bit.
Most of all right now I want v7, drazak, and Keirathi to be posting.
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Z-Bo, I love that you're wary of me and then you conclude your post with the two reads I had. Woe is me ^_^
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On October 22 2012 00:45 Z-BosoN wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 00:41 marvellosity wrote:
Z-Bo, I love that you're wary of me and then you conclude your post with the two reads I had. Woe is me ^_^ Don't understand this logic. I must conclude you are town to agree with your reads? So if I think v7 is scum, then everyone who finds him suspicious I cannot be weary off? + Show Spoiler +Also, fuck off, I found keir first 
wary, not weary dear. And back off, tiger. No of course I don't have to be town, but if someone agrees with my reads, I generally feel better about them. The "woe is me ^^" was supposed to indicate I wasn't deadly serious.
@DP: T.T
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On October 22 2012 02:40 drazak wrote:
Sorry sorry, I fell asleep last night watching some burn notice, V7 saying he'd post and then not is pretty serious stalling. I'd like to take a bit more of a look at keir but I think I'm going to part a vote on V7 so that he must reply when he returns, I feel that it's certainly been long enough to be after work for him. it's been 16 hours.
##Vote vaderseven
So is this a "I think you're scum" vote or a "pressure to post" vote?
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Z-Bo, I disagree with your entire read on austin regarding that drazak stuff.
His stance is entirely understandable and mirrors my own pretty closely. It's not rational for town OR scum to say you're gonna kill a townie (for slightly different reasons), and the conclusion from that is that it's somewhat of a null tell.
In other words, I've been leaning townie on drazak because of the overall feel of his filter; not because what he did in that instance I felt was strongly scummy or townie.
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On October 22 2012 03:02 drazak wrote:
I think he's stalling and I'd like to see him post, I wanted to see him post last night when I fell asleep, but it was a little too early.
Is he SCUM stalling?
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so... he's taking a stance that makes sense and his meta dictates that he shouldn't?
I'm missing something drastic here.
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On October 22 2012 05:18 austinmcc wrote:
See what happens when I don't explain my full thought process in spoilers!
nuh uh sweetie, this is what happens when people don't read and process what's been written properly. In my longish post having read the thread for the first time I said:
On October 21 2012 21:03 marvellosity wrote:vaderseven - for lack of content, firstly. But more tellingly for the manner of his posts. He mixes in the cute little posts - "what do you want to know about mes" and the little fun facts about his rolling mafia. In between those posts, though, are sarcastic and patronising posts that are really easy for scum to make because it makes them look like they know what's going on without actually have to contribute anything.
which is basically what you were saying about the DP situation but worded slightly differently, and it's what I had taken from your posts. Maybe it was easier for me to understand as I'd read similar things from the DP affair as you had.
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I think we should call the early DP shennanies either Punkgate or Darthgate, because that sounds kinda cool
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On October 22 2012 05:38 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 05:32 marvellosity wrote:On October 22 2012 05:18 austinmcc wrote:
See what happens when I don't explain my full thought process in spoilers! nuh uh sweetie, this is what happens when people don't read and process what's been written properly. In my longish post having read the thread for the first time I said: On October 21 2012 21:03 marvellosity wrote:vaderseven - for lack of content, firstly. But more tellingly for the manner of his posts. He mixes in the cute little posts - "what do you want to know about mes" and the little fun facts about his rolling mafia. In between those posts, though, are sarcastic and patronising posts that are really easy for scum to make because it makes them look like they know what's going on without actually have to contribute anything. which is basically what you were saying about the DP situation but worded slightly differently, and it's what I had taken from your posts. Maybe it was easier for me to understand as I'd read similar things from the DP affair as you had. Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaan. What do you make of keirathi's post in the middle of the DP stuff?
I'm not exactly sure. A couple of posts later in his filter he explains he was just calling out bullshit and didn't read anything alignment-y from it. But then if that's the case, then the contributions were just pointless and not really contributions.
I think Kei is playing pretty scummily - but what gives me pause is in his recent post, he just told town he doesn't really have any reads. Given he's under some pressure, it makes little sense for a scum Kei to do that. But then I find myself going around in stupid little wifom circles. What do you think?
I don't have these little niggles about vader, so I'd quite like to hammer him. But we're still going places with discussion so I'm loathe to right now.
Z-bo, are you sure that part of your read on Hapa isn't that you're putting him on a pedestal and placing unreasonable expectation from his posting? I'm getting that vibe from what you're posting about him.
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On October 22 2012 06:18 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 05:50 marvellosity wrote:
I'm not exactly sure. A couple of posts later in his filter he explains he was just calling out bullshit and didn't read anything alignment-y from it. But then if that's the case, then the contributions were just pointless and not really contributions.
I think Kei is playing pretty scummily - but what gives me pause is in his recent post, he just told town he doesn't really have any reads. Given he's under some pressure, it makes little sense for a scum Kei to do that. But then I find myself going around in stupid little wifom circles. What do you think?
What do you mean they were pointless? I wanted him to explain his rationale. I didn't make a snap judgement, so that's scummy?
To what end? He explained and you ended up getting... nothing from it basically? And there's so god-damn little else in your filter to hang my hat on.
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On October 22 2012 06:28 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 05:13 austinmcc wrote:Keirathi then pops in to comment on v7's post: On October 20 2012 12:19 Keirathi wrote:
I completely agree with vader here.
I mean, DP, what if Draz is a blue. What do you expect him to say? Of course he's not going to claim a blue role (I hope), a few hours into day 1. So, he claims Progamer. Then he gets close to lynch, and says "Okay, I'm actually Nestea. Don't lynch me!". What are you going to do, lynch him because he lied and said he was progamer 3 hours into the game?
I call bullshit. You know that everyone is going to claim progamer just the same as everyone is going to claim green.
There were many acceptable replies iamp's accusation. Yours was not one of them. He's much more forceful in what he's saying. "I call bullshit" "There were many acceptable replies...yours was not one of them." Actually keirathi's response is also interesting to me. iamperfection votes DP, for reasons keirathi seems to agree with. Keirathi calls DP's response bullshit and unacceptable, and...that's it. There's no vote, no FOS, no further comment. "You have given a bullshit/unacceptable response to a vote...carry on." Kind of odd to me. Kei doesn't comment any further. Doesn't follow-up on this. I guess I can respond to this since I'm around for a bit before I have to go sit with my grandpa again. I'm not going to vote for something that I'm not pretty convinced of. His answer to the questioning going on in thread was way more important than what he actually said that I called bullshit on. Also, FOS is a stupid term that I have never nor will ever use. Calling a post bullshit and making a pressure "case" is as close as you'll ever get to seeing an FOS from me. And, about not following up: it was friday night. I went out for the night. Fucking sue me. ( And yes, marv, I am being aggressively defensive. If people really want to lynch me for that then I'm going to flip the fuck out.)
Would you, ya know, fancy doing something else than that? Shouting at people and going "I'm gonna flip out if you lynch me even though all I'm doing is shouting at you" is, well. I think you get it.
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On October 22 2012 06:25 Hapahauli wrote:
Marv, on a scale of 1 to 10, how whiny did Z-Boson's "unjust" comment sound to you? Perhaps I'm reading into this too much, but damn that sounds scummy.
I don't enjoy using scales with no fun factor. Include a really whiny celebrity and I will answer.
More seriously, it's not the whining, it's that he didn't actually answer your question regarding why he's attacking you over austin's posts. Nor was what you were doing OMGUS, you were asking for an explanation.
Z-Bo, you're seriously farting around with this Hapa stuff, what gives?
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I'll say Ricki Lake. But srsly, the point I had to make was the one below.
Z-bo, I want you to answer Hapa on the austin thing please.
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austin, I'd like to hear what you (and anyone else) has to say about Kei before I get my voting shoes on.
In a 9 player game, having 1 player who basically refuses to give us anything to hold him accountable to (i.e. reads) it's a fucking liability.
Actually I'd really like to hear what drazak has to say about Keirathi.
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On October 22 2012 07:48 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 07:41 marvellosity wrote:
austin, I'd like to hear what you (and anyone else) has to say about Kei before I get my voting shoes on.
In a 9 player game, having 1 player who basically refuses to give us anything to hold him accountable to (i.e. reads) it's a fucking liability.
Actually I'd really like to hear what drazak has to say about Keirathi. Do you actually think I'm scum? You've been wavering back and forth all day without really taking a hard stance on me. Feels like you're trying to set yourself up to not look bad for my mislynch, tbh.
You should know I take full responsibility for any lynch I'm voting on.
If I were confident you were scum I'd have my vote on you now. I'll take a hard stance when I feel a hard stance. I'm canvassing opinion because I'm unsure on my read. If I had to yes/no now? Then yes, dear.
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On October 22 2012 07:56 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 07:54 marvellosity wrote:On October 22 2012 07:48 Keirathi wrote:On October 22 2012 07:41 marvellosity wrote:
austin, I'd like to hear what you (and anyone else) has to say about Kei before I get my voting shoes on.
In a 9 player game, having 1 player who basically refuses to give us anything to hold him accountable to (i.e. reads) it's a fucking liability.
Actually I'd really like to hear what drazak has to say about Keirathi. Do you actually think I'm scum? You've been wavering back and forth all day without really taking a hard stance on me. Feels like you're trying to set yourself up to not look bad for my mislynch, tbh. You should know I take full responsibility for any lynch I'm voting on. If I were confident you were scum I'd have my vote on you now. I'll take a hard stance when I feel a hard stance. I'm canvassing opinion because I'm unsure on my read. If I had to yes/no now? Then yes, dear. Why is it okay for you to take a hard stance whenever you feel like it, but not me? That's basically the exact same thing I've been saying. I just haven't been plopping every single one of my thoughts in the thread because I'm busy.
Because I actually have fleshed out thoughts on several of the players in the game?
Hapa - I'm wary of meta in Kei's case is because I know how aware of it he is. The little fucker correctly metaing kush as town on how I hard-defended him in Liquid.
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fuck you austin, DeePgate wasn't one of the options.
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