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debears
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I'll address your actions after I address Kush's. Something that hasn't been pointed out about him yet that's very odd. Anyways @Everyone Association cases are worthless until a flip. Even in the lategame, without a flip they aren't the greatest. Stop it | ||
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in regards to kush on associations | ||
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First, he presents meta as part of his case on Dau0d On October 27 2012 00:42 kushm4sta wrote: More on daoud: He seems much more careful about what he says this game than last game. Last games his posts were like WTF is this weird guy talking about. This game they look like he doesn't want to catch anyone's attention. Why we shouldn't lynch djodref today: He does look pretty scummy. But I don't see how anyone can have a lot of certainty in that read. Combination of high activity and low certainty means he should not lynch him. Also realize that djodref is in a position where he NEEDS to evolve his meta whether he is town or scum. His first game he played as a noob, understandable because it was his first game. His second game, he pretended to be a noob as a scum strat. I think showing that he is better than the newb he pretended to be last game would be the natural play for town djodref, and also scum djodref trying to appear as town djodref. Djo: who out of the active players seems scummiest to you? Also why did you bring up how you want to lynch a lurker without even trying to pressure your scumreads? In the same post, he defends Djo, stating that Djo is "changing his meta". How do you know that Kush? Also, how do you know that Dau0d wasn't doing the same? Why do you bash Dau0d for a change in meta but not Djo? Kush, did you not notice that, in both, games Djo was 1) a cop and 2) mafia Playing the noob card is a valid strat in both, especially in both of his newbie games. Now, for his use of meta on me. Look at how he wants to spread suspicion on me without actually looking up my meta, when he has played with me in my only 2 games. Why would he want someone else who hasn't played with me before, or only once, take the reins on a meta case? On October 27 2012 10:31 kushm4sta wrote: Is debears like this every game? It's not how I remember him. And yeah debears you basically buttfucked us during the first half of day 1 when you had your little dickmeasuring contest with Rad, which NOTHING came out of. Nothing except spamming the thread to hell and making it unreadable. Also, notice the personal attack on me? You can not deny that activity from Rad came out of it. We have a read on Djo based on it. and we have a read on me based on my d1 exchange with rad. 3 reads. Wow. That seems pretty good to me. On October 27 2012 22:06 kushm4sta wrote: Someone give me a meta read on debears. Is he usually this angry and rambunctious? I don't know his meta but it seems kind of fake to me. And also his little stunt in the pony thread could be something to try to convince people following that thread that he is town. (I actually did this when I got mafia several games ago) Kush, how do you not know my meta, especially my scum meta, after playing with me twice??????? How does it "seem fake" if you don't know it? Why do you not use the excuse that I'm possibly "changing my meta"? Kush is attacking people who he wants to and selectively using meta when it furthers his agenda. That, my friends, is a scumtell. FOS Kush | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On October 27 2012 23:43 Dandel Ion wrote: My case is more than just an association case. How well the association fits in is just a bonus. Compare my "association case" to what Inig tried to pull off. And tell me it's really the same level of badness. What do you mean by that? And it doesn't matter if the association fits. I don't know if either are scum or town. You must eliminate the association from your case until a scumflip | ||
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debears
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On October 27 2012 23:57 kushm4sta wrote: I knew the daoud case wasn't that great. But i thought it was better than any other so that's why I voted for it... I said this a million times. People theorizing scumteams are being dumb. There I said it again. And that makes me scum ?? lol It's a well known tenant of forum mafia that you don't theorize scumteams before one of them flips (unless you are at the very end of the game) Agreed. Guys listen to me and Kush on this one | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On October 28 2012 00:02 kushm4sta wrote: I am kind of busy today jacking off and I don't feel liek making cases ATM. I will present my cases before the day post in case I get killed. Also thanks for all your shitty suspicion. I hope it keeps me from getting nk. Wowwowowowowo. Kush mentioning not getting nked again. Did it his last two newbies as scum. | ||
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debears
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Also, why would you even bring it up at this point? 1) town - ????? 2) mafia - excuse for not getting nked | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + 1) On October 16 2012 23:09 kushm4sta wrote: Actually I think you would be a fine nk dro   :'(  2) On October 17 2012 08:33 kushm4sta wrote: @austin why didn't you get lynched? On October 17 2012 08:34 kushm4sta wrote: i mean nked 3) On October 17 2012 11:15 kushm4sta wrote: HUH? to this whole post. Who gives a shit if there is an S on "night actions"? What is kitaman gonna say? Send your night action? I don't think we can get any information about power roles from stuff mods said. So sandroba is a dangerous scumhunter so the kill should have happened quickly? Not necessarily. Like you say he wasn't hands down the best nk. I think we should assume there are no power roles until we see evidence of one. 3) On October 19 2012 05:47 kushm4sta wrote: To me it seems like a fake claim. We have seen no evidence of a blue role. Obviously it's one that has actions, since he was talking about night actionS, so why has no one claimed any of those actions. The "breadcrumbing" by arguing about NK also seems fake. I still want to lynch until he has some way of corroborating his claim. 4) On October 19 2012 08:02 kushm4sta wrote: I think I'm the nk if austin flips scum but we will see. ------------------- 5) On October 19 2012 20:19 kushm4sta wrote: do not speculate about nk before it happens. potato tells us nothing who is mafia? no clue I think someone should do the legwork to see if Hiro scum is capable of d1 play like that. I will do it when I get time. Ve is notoriously hard to read. The fact that he is a replacement makes it even easier for him to conceal his alignment. Don't even try to read VE IMO. fucking impossible. Also I'm gradually learning that his scumreads are pretty garbage for a vet, so don't trust those either even if you think he is town. @Ve those things you critisized daoud for, can't they ve explained by newbness? --------- 6) On October 20 2012 04:12 kushm4sta wrote: I'm gonna repeat do not discuss the nk until after it happens please. 7) On October 20 2012 04:19 kushm4sta wrote: stfu stfu a million times stfu about nk...wait until it happens 8) On October 20 2012 07:48 kushm4sta wrote: My last post was a lie I told to trick scum. Too bad it was probably too late and too obvious to be effective. If I get nk, then you should lynch thrawn still. If thrawn is scum, they have no reason to kill mmt, since him living spreads suspicion and everyone is willing to lynch thrawn anyway if he dies. 9) On October 21 2012 21:35 kushm4sta wrote: 1der: after we kill thrawn, the last mafia will nk djodref. People left: daoud, you,VE,me. Who do you think is scummiest out od those people right now? Alright guys. This is just 1 of kush's town games, his most recent one. He claims this On October 28 2012 00:07 kushm4sta wrote: I mention NK in town games too. It's a null tell IMO. Alright. Look at the quotes from looney above. Note 1) He never mentions about himself not getting nked for being suspicious 2) How he seems so adamant about not speculating nks as the game went on 3) Most of the time when he mentions nks it's about someone else being nked Thus, we know him mentioning not getting nked is not found in every town game of his Now, let's look at his previous newbies, where he was scum. Notice the similarities to his "won't be nked" post this game NMM XVII On September 18 2012 20:27 kushm4sta wrote: @stutters I want to improve my play because last game I sucked quite hard. anyone can attest to that lol. I also don't want to be the best town because getting nk sucks imo. I like being around for the end of the game. I'm just being honest. but thanks for accusing me because it makes it less likely that ill be nk, since scum usually kill the towniest person. what I said about flame wars.. that is what I did in the last two previous games. for instance drazak accused me really hard and I basically just called him a bad player again and again. I am trying to avoid that this game though. I really hate waking up to people fosing me...feels bad NMM XVIII On September 28 2012 09:40 kushm4sta wrote: thank you now I won't be nk | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On October 28 2012 00:02 kushm4sta wrote: I am kind of busy today jacking off and I don't feel liek making cases ATM. I will present my cases before the day post in case I get killed. Also thanks for all your shitty suspicion. I hope it keeps me from getting nk. | ||
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debears
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A mafia agenda now for sure. Look at the damn nk comment | ||
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Yes. Mafia want some form of control of the lynch. By using meta on people who he wants to, he can push for the candidates he wants to without being noticed. The "changing his meta" excuse is bullshit if it doesn't apply to everyone | ||
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debears
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What kind of townie has an agenda? You don't know what anyone else is, so how can you plan to lynch people? How can you know who to push for sure? | ||
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@Rad On October 28 2012 08:02 Rad wrote: Ahh yeah, I see. @Kush, why wouldn't debears make a good coach? What was up with these attacks on kush? Kush looked scummy. However, you attacked him for pregame comments for no reason. @Alsn I'll look in depth at your case after this | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
Flame fest is anti-town. If you think Alsn's case isn't good, actually argue against his points. Otherwise, your actions so far imply that you think you are guilty and you can't refute his case. ##Vote Dandel This vote is staying put unless you explain yourself and the case of Alsn and do some scumhunting | ||
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@Alsn I can address the points in your case right now, but I want Dandel to defend himself first. | ||
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1) It makes sense 2) If he is SK he cannot nk anymore | ||
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