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Dandel Ion
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On October 27 2012 09:19 Djodref wrote: Does anyone know this nackhtjogger guy ? No. Well, I'm going to sleep. Reads I will give later in the nightphase, when I am not dead tired and actually able to form coherent thoughts. | ||
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Dandel Ion
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Djo is looking really scummy now. Remember the slip calling daoud a townie? By now, I'm thinking that it actually was a scumslip. Djo just said "dw guise, it was a slip, but not a scumslip. Trust me!" And people actually did that. My take on that: He wanted to buddy up daoud, and slipped in the process. The day 1 cases against him didn't hold much ground in my eyes, but daoud's flip changes things. ##FoS Djo So Djo is looking scummy, but I have an even stronger scumread, and I'll tunnel this one (like I promised I would!) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=374466¤tpage=28#547 (also some later posts, won't link all the relevant ones here) He comes into the thread, dismisses the Inig cases with some excuse about how he is "sharing his thoughts" (a convenient way to ignore WHAT those thoughts actually were), and proclaims daoud scum instead. now, the post where daoud voted Inig WAS weird. I'll admit that. I also commented on that when I read it. But it honestly was not such a big deal as Kush pretended it was. His further points on daoud: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=374466¤tpage=31#609 He excused Djo's scumslip too easily. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=374466¤tpage=31#616 He drags out a random quote of daoud from another game, and uses it as "evidence" that his meta is wrong. Later, he tries to imply a townread on Inig AND a way to subtly imply daoud is scum, just because Inig placed a useless vote on me. Note how this is actually a gigantic logical fallacy, since for this to hold true, he has to look at it from the perspective that Inig is scum, but he somehow draws the conclusion that town is more likely to do that? Wat? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=374466¤tpage=32#625 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=374466¤tpage=32#629 I CONSIDER THIS A SCUMSLIP, since he does logic assuming Inig is scum, even though he doesn't get tired of soft-defending Inig and excusing him as "newbie town" (a horrible defense, I think we agreed on that already), and even when he says he considers it a null-tell, he is trying to make it look as something town is more likely to do (which, by the way, is wrong too) On October 27 2012 22:06 kushm4sta wrote: Someone give me a meta read on debears. Is he usually this angry and rambunctious? I don't know his meta but it seems kind of fake to me. And also his little stunt in the pony thread could be something to try to convince people following that thread that he is town. (I actually did this when I got mafia several games ago) You played scum WITH debears. Don't act like you don't know him. His scum meta is something you should be perfectly familiar with. So I don't believe your "I don't know" bullshit. It just looks like you're trying to sow baseless suspicions. Same with this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=374466¤tpage=36#713 You're trying to imply suspicious behaviour in another thread, from a relatively random comment, that doesn't neccessarily have anything to do with this game at all. That's bad enough. But then the part about how he PM'd you? wtf is this even trying to accomplish? If somebody PMs you, and you actually have a problem with it, you PM the host. Don't go into the thread to wave it around. And then you act like it's a null read anyways? WHY THANK YOU FOR THIS CONTRIBUTION You're just trying to shit up the thread and undermine the position of somebody that most people (including me) have a townread on. ##FoS Kush | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
And I also think he's in a scumteam with Kush. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On October 27 2012 23:35 Djodref wrote: @ Kush If you are town, I recommend you to refrain from posting this kind of stuff. I have been provocative in this game and I regret it. You could be tunneled forever for this kind of post. I WILL tunnel him forever. His play is painted in red, and then this response? Yeah, he's scum. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On October 27 2012 23:40 debears wrote: Guys although the manner in which he expressed it wasn't great. His point is valid My case is more than just an association case. How well the association fits in is just a bonus. Compare my "association case" to what Inig tried to pull off. And tell me it's really the same level of badness. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
Right. I call Bullshit, Kushyboy. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On October 28 2012 03:48 Alsn wrote: Fine then. I'll drop that part of my slight suspicions against you. Barring more information I probably consider you slight town at this point then. What? He played an ENTIRE game, with debears IN his scumteam, both surviving the whole game. And you just believe him, because .... Hell, I don't know why you would. You sure as hell didn't say. Really... | ||
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Dandel Ion
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Thank you for understanding. | ||
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Dandel Ion
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Ninjas everywhere. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
A little weaker scumread on Djo. Are you even paying attention? | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On October 28 2012 05:00 kushm4sta wrote: So you honestly don't believe that I didn't realize that was debears on my scumteam that game? and you think I'm making it all up? I know you're not the smartest guy around, but I'm not sure if even you are that... absent. Though, looking at what you are throwing around in this thread, you might be. I have, however, promised myself to not exuse anything you do with the explanaition of "stupid" anymore. Because of that same game. So yes, I think you are lying. I'm not going to give you any BotD. Had you read the thread, this wouldn't come as a surprise to you. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On October 28 2012 05:01 kushm4sta wrote: @dandel it doesn't make sense as scum that I would LIE about not remembering debears. It's a lie that could be so easily found out. Cool WIFOM argument. What's next, you gonna tell me how you're obviously town because you did something that scum, in your eyes, wouldn't? Please. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
Even if I degrade that specific incident as a null read, you're still scummy. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=367548 Featuring debears + Kush as scumteam And me as a replacement for a town baddie. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
They way they all cuddled up to each other in the postgame and stuff, it makes it really hard to believe for me. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
2nd priority would be Inig. - I would be tremendously surprised if there isn't at least one scum between the two of them. I get a strong town feeling from Rad. Once he learns how to make a proper case, you should (at least) listen to him. debears I'm leaning town, Djo I'm leaning scum, but those reads are not as strong. Everyone else is pretty null to me, with only slight feel-reads in either direction, or real proper null reads. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
Okay. | ||
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Dandel Ion
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That's two kills. Scum can kill 1. Ergo, there's either a Vig with no bullets left, or a SK. I would suggest if you're a Vig, then claim. If it's a SK, we'll probably find out next night I suppose. Useless fluff: + Show Spoiler + How the hell was Kush town wtf | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
Is there something you want to tell us? | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On October 28 2012 10:17 Djodref wrote: @ dandel Please show me in my post where I'm "so certain". I'm using conditional verbal forms... >.> On October 28 2012 09:29 Djodref wrote: I think sylver has been killed for this post I would say mafia was trying to snipe a blue and managed to do it. Regarding Kush death, I would say vig or SK. Both makes sense. But jailkeeper + vig + detective seems imba so I think we have a SK. On October 28 2012 09:31 Djodref wrote: By the way, if mafia is blue sniping, I would think that they have nobody on their ass right now. Your posts heavily imply that mafia is bluesniping Sylver, and you don't even aknowledge the possibility that Kush was the scum KP. Cheesecake's point about how fast you found a good reason to kill Sylver is also pretty good in my opinion. I mean, I checked his filter again, too, but I didn't even really think about that. To me, it sounds plausible that you've thought about it beforehand. I just want you to admit shooting either of them. You could still be scum, but the read I'm getting from you really strongly is SK. Now, my sample size is not the biggest, but I played a single game with a SK. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=367548 (doesn't say in the OP, but it's thrawn) And your play feels SO MUCH like thrawn's that game, it's not even funny. Since there's been no Vig claim, I'll have to assume a SK in the game now. Because it doesn't really make sense to NOT claim vig, he'd have no shots left, and would be, for all intents and purposes, be confirmed town. Which is something I'd like very much, at this point. Reasons to not claim Vig: If you're actually the SK and you'd incriminate yourself when there comes another night with 2 NKs. That's it. Conclusion: Djo is either SK, or scum. Both are reasons to lynch him, to me. ##Vote Djodref That said, does anybody even care about this game anymore?... | ||
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