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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 14:53 GMT
#1488
On January 04 2013 23:52 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 23:47 iamperfection wrote:
On January 04 2013 23:45 marvellosity wrote:
On January 04 2013 23:41 iamperfection wrote:
On January 04 2013 08:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 04 2013 08:23 iamperfection wrote:
On January 04 2013 08:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 04 2013 08:20 debears wrote:
On January 04 2013 08:18 iamperfection wrote:
you should join the wagon of justice as well debars


Can we please keep CC around til at least day 2? I love the kid. He's so funny


Nope. All serious biz this game. Lynch me Dibbers c'mon.

hey you haven't tried to hunt scum at all.

What have you to say to this accusation?


It's not an accusation - it's truth. Truth for half the players too.

Don't worry I'll be cooking up something later tonight after work.

you know i fell asleep waiting and woke up and i am still waiting


yep, Cheescake is also a good lynch. Either cheesecake or Adam are good lynches today.

marv should live if he wants to help kill cheesecake. Plus when marv was ousted as scum in gsl he just shat up the thread with his accuser he did not do that here he droped reads with reasoning and logic.

He can live in my book
Didn't he get lynched in that game though...? Because that would be quite a good reason to change his scum-in-shitty-position meta, don't you think?


shame that i'm town in shitty position

i got lynched in that game because the meta case on me was ironclad, unlike the one here, which is just nonsense. My scumgames are far more marked than my towngames in doing "typical town things" because I know what it takes to survive. As town I don't pretend.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 14:55 GMT
#1489
given that I have 86% scum record on TL, it kinda makes me sad that people think I would ever be in this position as scum. Have some respect
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 14:56 GMT
#1491
On January 04 2013 23:56 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 23:53 marvellosity wrote:
i got lynched in that game because the meta case on me was ironclad, unlike the one here, which is just nonsense.

In your own words what was so ironclad about that metacase?


just read it, it was all true.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 14:58 GMT
#1493
On January 04 2013 23:56 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 23:53 marvellosity wrote:
i got lynched in that game because the meta case on me was ironclad, unlike the one here, which is just nonsense.

In your own words what was so ironclad about that metacase?


I should elaborate - Hapa in his case drew parallels with my scumgames. Here Palmar is just trying to show how I've played differently as town before. Sure, Rock Band was my greatest triumph, catching all the scum, catching the SK, and blocking multiple KP.

I've had fuckloads of completely average day 1s as town though. It means nothing.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 15:01 GMT
#1498
On January 05 2013 00:01 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 23:53 iamperfection wrote:
me and palmar were ousted as masons we didn't really claim

Are you both masons or did just one of you contact the other? If so who?


read the thread, iamp contacted Palmar
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 15:01 GMT
#1500
too slow iamp :D
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 15:03 GMT
#1505
On January 05 2013 00:02 kushm4sta wrote:
help me find the game with the ironclad meta case on marv


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376602&currentpage=37#724

that's the post
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 15:03 GMT
#1506
On January 05 2013 00:02 Lazermonkey wrote:
WIFOM INC

What if Marv and Iamperfection are scumbros? Food for thought...

END OF WFIOM


stop being stupid. iamp is town, i am town.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 15:07 GMT
#1514
honestly, the fact that kush wants to kill me probably means he's town.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 15:10 GMT
#1520
On January 05 2013 00:08 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
1) Marv's Lack of Suspicion
2) Over-Consistency
3) Emotional Detachment

This is the summary.
You exhibit all of those. Just because your response to the case has been different than last game, that does not make you town. Iamp has retardedly suggested this.
Also about your response, I find it scummy. It looks like panicking to me as I already said. It is an extreme jump in activity.


no, iamp is right, and you're as much of an idiot as you always were.

Why don't you go check out Movie Mini Mafia. I posted about 15 pages in 2 days when I was almost getting lynched there too. Shock horror, I was town.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 15:13 GMT
#1522
you should've stopped Palmar making this terribad wagon then, sweetheart.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 15:15 GMT
#1526
On January 05 2013 00:14 kushm4sta wrote:
marv can you be bothered to move your vote?


? At this stage I'd vote for Adam or Cheesecake. What are you asking?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 15:22 GMT
#1530
On January 05 2013 00:16 Palmar wrote:
Why should I believe you're town marv? Hell, even your list of reads were basically based on what I had written in the spreadsheet with some minor changes, including agreeing with me on Adam and pushing him as a read.

You should know that I hated the way Adam was playing immediately after the post that he wrote and you agreed with (about clarity and someone). We drew completely different conclusions after that post, I think I even called him scum in the thread, but you for some reason liked what he had to say.

Then you 180 when he doesn't post, which is true of a lot of other people in the thread. The only reason I'm bothering questioning you is iamp is telling me I'm dumb.

But please, none of your thoughts seem original, none of your content prior to me pushing your lynch was worth a damn. You seemed perfectly fine doing nothing but ride-along getting me lynched on day 1 with nothing else to be analysed from that day (well you threw out a couple of names for no reason).

I just don't see anything that makes you look like townie.


I agreed with his suspicions of Clarity, and I made it perfectly clear exactly why I agreed with his suspicions of Clarity. The fact he has pushed nothing since and not followed up on it is more indicative than the original post.

I seriously loathe that you haven't properly researched my meta when making this case. People have been suspicious of me many times for lack of content or bad Day 1s, LIII, Dwarf Fortess, Can't Believe, Paranoia, and probably some others I'm not forgetting.

Why do I need to push original content from your reads sheet if I agree with them? I told you the differences in what I thought on the sheet, why would I say anything else? I don't get it.

It should have been fairly apparent I'm quite suspicious of VE because I keep niggling at him about how he's voted.
It should have been fairly apparent I'm quite suspicious of BC given how I've tried to canvas opinion on him and given my own that he just seems to be summarising/not lurking.

I pushed you for precisely the reasons I gave in my post, about our discussion about how good your Day 1s were compared to your other days. It's annoying how you can't grasp how that conversation so recently into your play this game might have a significant effect on me.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 15:24 GMT
#1531
for some reason there's a couple of misplaced 'not's in that post. under BC, "not" lurking, and "not" forgetting. bleh
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 15:33 GMT
#1534
On January 05 2013 00:28 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 00:22 marvellosity wrote:
On January 05 2013 00:16 Palmar wrote:
Why should I believe you're town marv? Hell, even your list of reads were basically based on what I had written in the spreadsheet with some minor changes, including agreeing with me on Adam and pushing him as a read.

You should know that I hated the way Adam was playing immediately after the post that he wrote and you agreed with (about clarity and someone). We drew completely different conclusions after that post, I think I even called him scum in the thread, but you for some reason liked what he had to say.

Then you 180 when he doesn't post, which is true of a lot of other people in the thread. The only reason I'm bothering questioning you is iamp is telling me I'm dumb.

But please, none of your thoughts seem original, none of your content prior to me pushing your lynch was worth a damn. You seemed perfectly fine doing nothing but ride-along getting me lynched on day 1 with nothing else to be analysed from that day (well you threw out a couple of names for no reason).

I just don't see anything that makes you look like townie.


I agreed with his suspicions of Clarity, and I made it perfectly clear exactly why I agreed with his suspicions of Clarity. The fact he has pushed nothing since and not followed up on it is more indicative than the original post.

I seriously loathe that you haven't properly researched my meta when making this case. People have been suspicious of me many times for lack of content or bad Day 1s, LIII, Dwarf Fortess, Can't Believe, Paranoia, and probably some others I'm not forgetting.

Why do I need to push original content from your reads sheet if I agree with them? I told you the differences in what I thought on the sheet, why would I say anything else? I don't get it.

It should have been fairly apparent I'm quite suspicious of VE because I keep niggling at him about how he's voted.
It should have been fairly apparent I'm quite suspicious of BC given how I've tried to canvas opinion on him and given my own that he just seems to be summarising/not lurking.

I pushed you for precisely the reasons I gave in my post, about our discussion about how good your Day 1s were compared to your other days. It's annoying how you can't grasp how that conversation so recently into your play this game might have a significant effect on me.


I don't actually use meta. I think you're scum because of your gradual turn towards thinking I'm scum after repeatedly pointing out I can troll as either alignment. I think you're scum because in the process you saw no reason to ever seriously voice or out any special concerns or cases against anyone, except of course you agreed once with a guy I thought was scum writing a case on a guy I tentatively thought was town.

I think you're scum because once you were called out for it your cases are weak, not very well thought out and contain very few specifics from this game, most of your observations have been generic (I point to your evaluation of froggynoddy for example). I think you're scum because you seem generally disinterested in who gets lynched and you didn't actively try to get people to agree with you.

I don't care about your meta. I included that in the case because I remembered that you played differently in rockband, and a lot of people like that, and it's generally hard to whip town into shape to lynch.

Since you remember our IRC conversations, you should also remember that I said I usually just write my cases to convince town, more than to prove people are scum. But hey, selective memory is good right?


To the bold, how is that relevant to why I pushed you?

My evaluations are usually generic, so what? I thought froggy is town because he had some more aggressive tones in his posts than when as scum, do I need to quote that to show I'm reading the game? Or can you look at that yourself? Do you need me to press quote?

What is there to say about Cheesecake that I can quote? Here, let's quote this bunch of one-liners he's made without scumhunting. Or I can just say its' the case, and again anyone can verify that it is the case.

You should fucking care about meta, because it might actually draw you to the bloody right conclusion. An example:

On August 09 2012 05:24 marvellosity wrote:
##Unvote

Custos is actually getting involved in town affairs

##Vote: prplhz

prplhz very much is not.

I'm going to look more into the Forumite situation. Need to mull over what slOosh said to me and also see if I can make anything out of what seems to be a lot of 'meh' from people about it.


That was my final vote, as town, in that game. That was all the reasoning I gave for it, and the guy I just unvoted I had voted for also not giving a shit about town.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 15:37 GMT
#1538
you're such a fucking idiot, it's infuriating.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 15:37 GMT
#1539
er, that wasn't at you, Hopeless
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 15:38 GMT
#1542
On January 05 2013 00:37 Palmar wrote:
Here marv

*hands marv a piece of paper*

You can call me bad for 1 day in any game you'd like if you flip town.


I don't care about any other game, I call you shit when I want, it's this game i care about
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 15:38 GMT
#1543
On January 05 2013 00:38 kushm4sta wrote:
Marv I say you are acting like hapa's metacase describes your scumplay.
You say "look at these other games tho!"

When hapa made the case against you, you said
Show nested quote +
The closest comparison game is Dwarf Fortress, where I made 2 votes all day - first on Custos for not caring about town and secondly on prplhz for not caring about town. I thought a lot about the other flavour of the day in that game (forumite), decided I didn't want to lynch him, and then did remarkably little to stop him getting lynched.

My last scum game, Liquid City - how many people did I express suspicions/scumreads on? Many. Let's meta my last scum game and this game then?

Also a "look at all these other games" type defense.


i make the same defence as town

get over it
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 15:40 GMT
#1545
thrawn we're not lynching Lasermonkey, spend your time elsewhere
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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