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I find it hard to see mafia either making this mistake by accident, or making it on purpose to seem like town. Therefore Sentinel is town. Despite my case on him I quite liked his defense, in combination with this it clears him in my book. It even explains that I can't see him do it on purpose as scum, what does the order matter? It makes more sense for him to make this mistake as town even after iamp claimed to get shot. Now go away Vivax, seriously. | ||
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On January 06 2013 22:58 Chezinu wrote: The Brown Brotherhood strikes again. Well done. Tube's death was not in vain. He helped us catch yet another blue. What? | ||
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On January 06 2013 23:08 Vivax wrote: That's terrible logic. You're assuming scum wouldn't do mistakes. That is pure WIFOM. I'm saying that scum talk about their night actions, they do it together, they don't fucking forget how many shots they have. You calling it wifom because there is a super small chance it really was scum making a mistake is dumb. | ||
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On January 06 2013 23:09 Vivax wrote: Not even WIFOM, that's assuming mafia players would always play optimally by your standards. I think scum in general are more careful with what they say, yes. Now get the fuck away from me you're annoying. | ||
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On January 06 2013 23:15 Promethelax wrote: Good enough scum players intentionally put mistakes into their play to appear townie. Don't be fooled by fools. I don't know Sentinel other than from this game and if he is scum he is not playing a strong scum game, therefore he would not make a play like this. The fact that you say he's a strong player makes it more likely he's town. | ||
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On January 06 2013 23:27 Promethelax wrote: I've never played with him before but I have read AoE and pyp:r. He seemed like a good but not incredible player. I have him in my mental list of mafia players on tl as 'above average' Someone who knows him better than I do (read at all) could tell you more. I agree with your read and disagree with your reasons. Don't get caught up in shitty heuristics. So why do you think he's town? | ||
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Anyway I don't think speculating on it will do us any good. Maybe we can revisit it closer to lylo, but right now there's no point since if you take away setup stuff iamp is town, and if you look at setup stuff then iamp is super town. It's just something that doesn't really make sense, but not really something that makes iamp scum. | ||
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On January 07 2013 04:59 supersoft wrote: i don't know? maybe we're unlucky and you took a vigshot and they have one dayvig left? I refuse to consider this for my own sanity, what townie in their right mind would vig iamp. No the simply explanation is either scum fucked up or they had/have some sort of plan/reason that we don't know. | ||
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I was under the impression that when there's mafia left they still have 3 kp, hence Mafia KP is # of Mafia /2 rounded up. There are 6 members of Mafia, starting KP is equal to 3. Hurr durr 5/2 = 2.5 which rounded up is 3. Now apparantly after scum uses kp it gets rounded up.... but only when they are down to 0.5 kp...... then they can suddenly use nightkill....... Never is this stated anywhere. /rant Djo your theory for mz being scum mason is possible but we know nothing, his claim was weird as fuck and also half assed and makes no sense as either alignment to me. Everything else points to scum. Cheese is, as iamp said, basically guaranteed scum at this point, I still want Palmar lynched, but since we'll drop mafia kp down to two if we lynch scum tomorrow it's probably best to go with cheese, and figure out wtf is going on with mz. | ||
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On January 07 2013 19:31 Lazermonkey wrote: I'm not sure I see that as alignment indicative TBH. But it sure isn't helping us. It shows he's not invested in this game which IS alignment indicative. On January 07 2013 19:32 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: What are all your thoughts on Promethelax? What are yours? | ||
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On January 07 2013 20:19 Palmar wrote: Knowing I am town, this post is almost impossible to write as scum I think. Clarity looks pretty good. If he's scum, it's very difficult to imagine Clarity being thorough enough to try to swing the lynch from one townie to another in an attempt to somehow gain credit. The only possible explanation where Clarity is scum, is if CC is scum too and this is a bus. That is certainly possible, especially since I've never felt as good about Clarity as I felt in the last game we played town together, but I see no reason to chase that scenario when we have plenty of options left. Who am I swing from, onto you? I don't follow. You also just said I look pretty good yet you're not comfortable with me. (somewhat understandable because of my d1, but still contradictory). You kept this kind of backdoor open for me last game as well though.... hmph | ||
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and I just realized you probably mean mz, but he claimed mason (weirdly) so it makes sense for me to be apprehensive to lynch him (or appear to), regardless of alignment. I find your reason to call me town very strange. | ||
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On January 07 2013 20:19 Palmar wrote: Knowing I am town, this post is almost impossible to write as scum I think. Clarity looks pretty good. If he's scum, it's very difficult to imagine Clarity being thorough enough to try to swing the lynch from one townie to another in an attempt to somehow gain credit. The only possible explanation where Clarity is scum, is if CC is scum too and this is a bus. That is certainly possible, especially since I've never felt as good about Clarity as I felt in the last game we played town together, but I see no reason to chase that scenario when we have plenty of options left. Palmar, are you calling mz town? Could you give some reasoning if that is the case? | ||
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You then follow by saying if cheese is scum it's possible I'm scum, but... not likely? You believe cheese is scum though.... Why did you feel the need to give me a townread in-thread to begin with? | ||
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On January 07 2013 23:36 iamperfection wrote: does anyone agree with me on foolishness? He remains safely in the "I don't have a fucking clue" category for me. I don't think he's a good lynch tomorrow if that's what you're getting at. | ||
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Vivax, Your case is quoting a bunch of posts and then giving a #. Summary You don't explain why anything you're mentioning is scummy. Debears jumped on something stupid iamp said because he had this complicated thing in his head that required iamp to be talking about supersoft, so he immediately jumped on him and asked, and then asked again, and was disappointed (or "satisfied" as you called it) when iamp said he wasn't. Again, this is a townie point in my eyes. | ||
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