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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 12:53 GMT
#1422
On January 04 2013 21:51 Vivax wrote:
Maybe it's cause I'm inexperienced, but the benefits for iamp from doing this are evident, while he clearly took the least responsibility for what they were doing. It was Palmar risking to get lynched.


there are no benefits for giving up KP, because iamp will be judged on his play, not his association with Palmar. he was my strongest townread before I knew he was mason with anybody.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 12:54 GMT
#1423
basically, think about other things, Vivax, please. Indulge me.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 13:04 GMT
#1428
I was enjoying watching.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 13:11 GMT
#1430
I would have been watching 24/7, silly.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 13:14 GMT
#1432
lol vivax is blates town
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 13:28 GMT
#1434
Alright, while i'm here and not working at work, I'm gonna use Palmar's spreadsheet as a starting point, and only comment on the things I disagree with.

6.marvellosity - srsly supertown
8.Djodref - I wouldn't have him coloured in red. He's extremely null - he plays a VERY active scumgame (as active as me) so him being absent is just 100% bizarro.
10.Clarity - sigh, I guess null. He could be ill and scum and be telling the truth, but Palmar is probably right after all.
12.Vivax - now thinking town, based on iamp paranoia, and post just above going back and picking something extremely random from someone's filter. This is Vivax townplay, I wager.
14.VE - very sheepy, but not that red. I dunno. He could be scum, I just want to see MORE.
15.debears - null, playing really really weirdly, kinda trolly, but at the same time not obviously retardedly or omgusly. Maybe slight lean town after all.
16.bugs - seems town to me so far. seems kinda interested since he started playing. Not strong
17.Palmar - an idiot.
21.supersoft - leaning scum, having been nullish/slightly town. I know he LOVES to lick the ass of players like Palmar, but his sheep on to my case is super weak.
28.Cheesecake - stronger red now, since I've seen him post actively in British Empire while being totally uninterested in this game.

The rest of the reads I agree with the general colour of the read if not the exact reasonings, but close enough.

It should be noted that Adam is australian, so he's either just got in bed or is about to go to bed, and has had all day to be active, and has done nothing. For me this is enough to make him the top lynch for today.

##Vote: Adam4167
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 13:57 GMT
#1439
On January 04 2013 22:56 supersoft wrote:
or did you change your mind about palmar?


I changed my mind about Palmar for now.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 14:00 GMT
#1440
On January 04 2013 22:57 supersoft wrote:
5. Meapak_Ziphh
6. marvellosity
7. Toadesstern
14. VisceraEyes
16. wherebugsgo
17. Palmar
19. Foolishness (based purely on what Palmar said about him trolling)
21. supersoft
23. Jackal58
27.BloodyC0bbler

tell me, marv. Balancewise. How many of these players are scum.

[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 14:04 GMT
#1444
On January 04 2013 23:03 supersoft wrote:
Yeah see. And how i voting you from my perspective "super weak"?


you've given no prior indication i might be scum, nor any reasons why you agree with palmar.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 14:05 GMT
#1446
On January 04 2013 23:02 kushm4sta wrote:
aw it's so cute to see marv panick.

palmar looks town. his case is convincing. I'm sheeping.
I have also had a scummy feeling about thrawn. a lot of his.posts seem fake..esp that one about bc.

and scum marv is very vulnerable to metareads, he has admitted this. He's a good lynch imo.


you're so cute, kush.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 14:14 GMT
#1449
On January 04 2013 23:11 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 23:04 marvellosity wrote:
On January 04 2013 23:03 supersoft wrote:
Yeah see. And how i voting you from my perspective "super weak"?


you've given no prior indication i might be scum, nor any reasons why you agree with palmar.


doesnt mean i have no reasons. The list you made is pretty good: i'd only add some minor changes, and ofc switch our colors, since you are as obviously scum as meapak and BC.
Palmars case is perfect.

and your Palmar-tunneling was just implausible


then you're as bad as both you and Palmar were earlier for believing Vivax is scum. Palmar's case is really terrible and it irks me that you can't understand it.

My Palmar tunnel wasn't even implausible, you said yourself that you had to sit and think about the post I made on him, presumably because it made good points.

If you are actually town, get your head out of Palmar's ass for one fucking minute, please.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 14:18 GMT
#1450
On January 04 2013 22:57 Vivax wrote:
Adam is lurky, but I actually like his post about debears. Debears advocated the use of statistics but doesn't give a fuck about them or the game in general, I feel.
That doesn't make him scum yet since he might be busy at a swinger party with his Brown brothers, but I'm waiting for his play to unfold...in a better way than his previous.

I also liked Adams' question to Clarity. Clarity picked the lurking vet, Jackal, instead of Tube, the douche lurker. Call me biased about this, but I also find it more likely that tube is scum since he was so theatrical about his post, and Adam gets townie points from me for noticing that Clarity made a weird choice.

Why don't you post reads about froggy or lazer marv? Lazer promised to post, so I can see that, but froggy?


I actually played with froggynoddy in both his previous 2 games on TL Mafia (as far as I'm aware). I was his big bro scum in LIV, and he was town vigi in Magic Mini.

In LIV he constantly apologised for being absent and was for the most part extremely diplomatic. In Magic Mini he was more aggressive and less apologetic.

He's been too absent so far but there's no particular reason right now to think he is scum. His play is closer to that towngame than it was to his scumgame. His first post on Tunkeg was bad but he came at it with a kinda belligerent attitude I'd expect from him playing tonw, not scum
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 14:22 GMT
#1453
froggy, i just posted why i dont find you scummy. reconsider your vote, you're not stupid.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 14:38 GMT
#1459
On January 04 2013 23:30 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 23:14 marvellosity wrote:
On January 04 2013 23:11 supersoft wrote:
On January 04 2013 23:04 marvellosity wrote:
On January 04 2013 23:03 supersoft wrote:
Yeah see. And how i voting you from my perspective "super weak"?


you've given no prior indication i might be scum, nor any reasons why you agree with palmar.


doesnt mean i have no reasons. The list you made is pretty good: i'd only add some minor changes, and ofc switch our colors, since you are as obviously scum as meapak and BC.
Palmars case is perfect.

and your Palmar-tunneling was just implausible


then you're as bad as both you and Palmar were earlier for believing Vivax is scum. Palmar's case is really terrible and it irks me that you can't understand it.

My Palmar tunnel wasn't even implausible, you said yourself that you had to sit and think about the post I made on him, presumably because it made good points.

If you are actually town, get your head out of Palmar's ass for one fucking minute, please.


You know i have a problem with your game so far. Everything you did was just so useless. I cannot see the will to find scum. I don't see any plan.

Examples?

Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 23:32 marvellosity wrote:
On January 03 2013 23:31 supersoft wrote:
On January 03 2013 23:23 marvellosity wrote:
On January 03 2013 23:22 supersoft wrote:
On January 03 2013 23:15 marvellosity wrote:
On January 03 2013 23:00 supersoft wrote:
On January 03 2013 22:57 marvellosity wrote:
On January 03 2013 22:54 supersoft wrote:
yes, because i read the setup.


i'm kinda surprised you haven't talked more about MZ since he came in last night saying absolutely nothing again. Did you find you want to lynch him less for what he said or something?


i talked about him... and this is the last time i tell you guys to read my filter befor you adress me.


no, you haven't talked about him since he popped in saying he wanted to lynch Tunkeg and left again.

This is the last time I treat you as an equal before condescending down to you for not reading.


On January 03 2013 21:05 supersoft wrote:
and yeah ofc MZ, as scum you'd tell your scumteam that palmar looks town like town and not us.
pfffff


I hadn't had time to post more, since i got distracted by vivax

On January 03 2013 23:06 Palmar wrote:
On January 03 2013 23:03 Vivax wrote:
Yea, but playing on my other comp.


Do you have access to your notes where you are now?


On January 03 2013 23:19 Vivax wrote:
I do have access.


hrhr, I like where this is going :-)
go ahead Palmar.


so now you're about, why don't you expand on your thoughts on MZ a bit?


Mind your own business.


It is my business. This is a game of mafia and I need to get reads on both you and him. Stop being a dick.


this.
I really don't know why you asked me this. You did see, that I was actively going for vivax - who i still think is scum - and you tried to distract me with MZ. (successful btw.)

only when your attacked, you deliver:

Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 10:12 marvellosity wrote:
On January 04 2013 10:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
Foolishness - LOL
Palmar - /facepalm
supersoft - started out strong, puttered out.
MZ - Clearly not even trying. Null.
BC - ....hold me.
Marv - I'm sensing disappointment. Usually means scum.
VE - Townie town towningtons.
Toad - Is scum. Kill it.


Actually you're right for the first, but it's not quite what you think, and I don't mind explaining it a little. I was quite looking forward to this game because I felt there was a pretty decent chance I was going to be able to play town with at least 1 of Palmar or Foolishness. I've played with Fool twice only and he rolled scum, unfortunately, in both. Palmar I've played with a bunch of times, but so far always with the opposite alignment. Then after that Palmar has basically trolled most of the game (at least, playing nothing like his last few town games where I was either hosting or scum) and Foolishness is doing even worse than this. So yes, I've been disappointed with the game so far.


mhm.


I didn't try to distract you from Vivax, you made a point on Meapak based on his original comment on Palmar. He was as far as I'm aware your best read at the time. After that, MZ came into the thread saying he wanted to lynch Tunkeg and a couple of pointless other things. Then for some reason you didn't comment on this, and it seemed like you should, so I asked you about it.

Only when attacked I comment on my own play? Why is this either a surprise or alignment indicative?

Also, Vivax is still probably town, so you need to get over that one.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 14:41 GMT
#1463
On January 04 2013 23:38 froggynoddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 23:22 marvellosity wrote:
froggy, i just posted why i dont find you scummy. reconsider your vote, you're not stupid.


Tbh I dont feel completely comfortable with lynching you but honestly that case on Adam was super weak. that post in particular made me reconsider, it seemed desperate when you have plenty of time to find better scum targets.

You defending me does not make you more townie. At best it is null, at worst its a scummy more clever attempt at 'seeming' like town.


I didn't say me defending you makes me townie. I am explaining why I wasn't pushing you. That is all.

I regularly vote for people as town that are not giving a shit about town on Day 1, and Cheesecake and Adam fit the bill perfectly. The 'case', for what it is, is not weak, because there is no evidence Adam gives a shit about town.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 14:42 GMT
#1465
iamp, do you think i am scum?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 14:43 GMT
#1469
On January 04 2013 23:33 kushm4sta wrote:
edwop
I have also had a scummy feeling about marv. a lot of his.posts seem fake..esp that one about bc.

I said thrawn before.


yes, but you tried shooting me in Chrono because you thought my posts were scummy, so whatever man.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 14:45 GMT
#1472
On January 04 2013 23:41 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 08:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 04 2013 08:23 iamperfection wrote:
On January 04 2013 08:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 04 2013 08:20 debears wrote:
On January 04 2013 08:18 iamperfection wrote:
you should join the wagon of justice as well debars


Can we please keep CC around til at least day 2? I love the kid. He's so funny


Nope. All serious biz this game. Lynch me Dibbers c'mon.

hey you haven't tried to hunt scum at all.

What have you to say to this accusation?


It's not an accusation - it's truth. Truth for half the players too.

Don't worry I'll be cooking up something later tonight after work.

you know i fell asleep waiting and woke up and i am still waiting


yep, Cheescake is also a good lynch. Either cheesecake or Adam are good lynches today.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 14:47 GMT
#1477
On January 04 2013 23:46 Vivax wrote:
Also, it's the first time I see someone using his nationality as defence, don't do that froggy. The British invaded half the world a few centuries ago, so don't start with being "conflict avoiding".


hey. hey! We 'civilised' the world. ^_^
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 04 2013 14:51 GMT
#1483
On January 04 2013 23:47 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 23:42 marvellosity wrote:
iamp, do you think i am scum?

scum thing to say

So basically you are focusing on policy lynches (palmar, adam) with very little content towards who is actually scum.

Your scumreads are Cheesecake - due to activity
except you should realize that this game is super long and hard to keep up with. cheesecake's play is not necessarily scummy.

and supersoft, who you randomly insult (he likes to lick ass or something)
-due to sheeping the case on you (aka omgus)
those are who you think is scum?


Except Cheesecake has been around posting one-liners, which means he's in the thread, he's just not making any effort to do anything in it.

If you think lynching low activity is policy, you're dumb, else I could lynch Foolishness or Jackal or something instead.
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