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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
January 06 2013 19:52 GMT
#2744
On January 07 2013 04:50 supersoft wrote:
it might be a theoretical possibility, however as i already pointed out, why would the scumteam send iamp to palmar...
The 1-shot thing fits into the set-up... and he claimed a shot... no scumteam does all that with one guy... i don't know...
the obvious explanation is: he's a 1shot mason who got shot, because scum thought he's almost confirmed.

although the point is why not just day vig if thats the case unless there is some sort of restriction that we are not aware of.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
January 06 2013 19:56 GMT
#2747
@cheznu
Listin to me

You obviously have some need to try to explain yourself or whatever it is but why not a simple direct explanation of what you want or seek.

Why these games?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
January 06 2013 19:57 GMT
#2748
On January 07 2013 04:55 supersoft wrote:
scum obviously aims for almost confirmed townies like keirathi and wbg.
during the night you were the only one who fits in that pattern. Shoot confirmed townies... not the worst strategy...

But im a mason what other threat do i pose?

Why not just save it all for day vigs?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
January 06 2013 20:23 GMT
#2761
@debars

he is a possiblity and you have good point about his activity considering he wanted to break the record he helped to make.

His voting of BC was pure sheeping of marv and ve who pointed out that post by bc was extremly scummy considering the general feeling of the thread and it seemed purely disconnected at the time.

i would want to see more from him but at least his filter isnt pure setup speculation like it was when he was scum last time i remember.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
January 06 2013 20:28 GMT
#2764
On January 07 2013 05:25 Djodref wrote:
@ debears

I understand your concerns, but it goes all down to a time-constraint problem from my side ^^

1)My activity is bigger in all my other games, regardless of my alignment. I was scum in Witchcraft, Mario Mini and Looney Mini and I've been pretty active as scum in these games. Here I was in the plane coming back to Korea when the game started, and I had a lot of work to do because they didn't wait for me when I was on vacation back in France. I was also jet-lagged and super tired. Like, it's 5am here, and I'm fucking awake...
And I'm not usually very active on week-ends ")

2)Yeah, you cannot read Also I didn't have so much time to take a decision at that time

3)I didn't have time to push him, I was reading the thread again to see if I didn't miss anything important. I woke up in the middle of the night to follow the game, I remind you

4)Again, lack of time from my part

seems legit

plus he used two smiley's probably would have put more in if he was scum.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
January 06 2013 20:29 GMT
#2766
On January 07 2013 05:28 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
oi supersoft I'm gonna mason you during the night cycle so we can just talk things out on IRC.

The person I'm currently masoned to is proving less than useful (maybe afk) I really wish they would get on IRC with me because I'm starting to become really suspicious due to their complete lack of communication or presence in the thread.

In the meantime I'll vote Jackal. Everything else is waiting for the person to get back to me.

It'd be foolish to lynch me today.

who did you mason?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
January 06 2013 20:38 GMT
#2781
On January 07 2013 05:34 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 05:28 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
oi supersoft I'm gonna mason you during the night cycle so we can just talk things out on IRC.

The person I'm currently masoned to is proving less than useful (maybe afk) I really wish they would get on IRC with me because I'm starting to become really suspicious due to their complete lack of communication or presence in the thread.

In the meantime I'll vote Jackal. Everything else is waiting for the person to get back to me.

It'd be foolish to lynch me today.


We have 30 ppl in this game. I'd say 6-8 blues is a good number for expected amount of blues

With your claim: 7 total

Our current list of power roles:
Slow Alignment Cop
Slow Cop
One-time Alignment Cop
Vengeful Vigilante
Role Cop x1
*one time mason* (iamp)
*full game mason* (MZ)

That's 7. We are tredding on dangerous territory with this number of claims

im no setup expert but if the mafia have the ability to execute all their nks during the day perhaps we have more blues than we would normally have.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
January 06 2013 20:43 GMT
#2786
On January 07 2013 05:42 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 05:40 Djodref wrote:
On January 07 2013 05:38 debears wrote:
And considering you aren't gettin lynched over Jackal today, this would be a dumb as shit move by you MZ if you are a full game mason


Also you are forgetting the medic that should have saved iamp ^^


Ah yes. And Iamp was rbed correct?

So that'd be 8/9 including jk or medic and RB

i was not roleblocked
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
January 06 2013 20:48 GMT
#2793
On January 07 2013 05:46 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 05:43 thrawn2112 wrote:
kush you still lurking?how is your internet weed?

what are your scumreads now that marv is gone?

Hi! Expect full reads from me later tonight.

Internet weed is amazing! do you know you can buy any drug off the internet? I feel like this whole mafia game should know that.

DJODREF explain your comment about iamp and the medic.?

read the thread and come back
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
January 06 2013 20:49 GMT
#2794
On January 07 2013 05:45 Foolishness wrote:
##Vote: Jackal58

im surprised you even bothered to post in the thread at all and not just the voting thread.

Do you just want to claim scum?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
January 06 2013 21:13 GMT
#2808
On January 07 2013 06:10 Djodref wrote:
@ iamp

Are you still around ? I think I have an explanation why mafia tried to shoot you at night !
Look at this

1 KP -> one dayvig shooting WBG
1 KP -> one dayvig shooting Keir
0.5 KP -> MZ is mason
remaining 0.5 KP rounded to 1 KP -> shoot iamp at night !

The remaining KP gets rounded, that's what we were missing !

Is that even how it works?

If the mafia use 2.5 of their kp on abilities can the remaining .5 be used to as normal kp since it would be rounded up?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
January 06 2013 21:25 GMT
#2818
On January 07 2013 06:24 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
So scum has a free 0.5 role every night

until we kill some which it looks we are going to do
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
January 07 2013 00:39 GMT
#2857
somebody voted in the voting thread and didn't have the common courtesy to check in anyone want to guess who it was?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
January 07 2013 01:20 GMT
#2863
despite foolishness's "case" on Mr. CC and somewhat uptick in activity i am not convinced at all of his alignment as town no matter what CC flips. I think its an almost certainty that Mr. CC will flip scum at this point but it say nothing about foolishness.

He still has overall been severely disconnected from the comings and going of the thread.

His contributions have been to go after the easy target of tube who everyone in the thread wanted dead and to make a case on Mr. CC in which i was able to point out from day one that Mr CC didnt care who gets lynched. Folishness just added to the case and made it nice and pretty for us to all ohhhh and awww at but it wasnt even neccessary a ton of people have been suspicios of CC and including the towniest player in the game + Show Spoiler +
thats me in case your wondering
His case was overkill and unnecessary considering the circumstances.

Overall if Mr cc flips scum still be suspicious of folishness and expect him to contribute a lot more if he is in fact town.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
January 07 2013 01:22 GMT
#2864
On January 07 2013 10:04 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 04:56 iamperfection wrote:
@cheznu
Listin to me

You obviously have some need to try to explain yourself or whatever it is but why not a simple direct explanation of what you want or seek.

Why these games?


What if the games are just used to pass time, because I really have nothing to say. Plus, it amusing. Though, it is not always fun for all. It seems everyone thinks I'm town because I'm playing my games. So, I will continue on. Oh and if mafia start accusing me, beware: Chezinu is a big fluffy animal. I pretends to be more powerful than I really am. So you better what out for my fluff. It could hurts you... or maybe its really cushioning and soft.

Yeah... I'm just waiting for the next day to arrive.

you just hop on in whenever you feel like contributing if not i see nothing but a noose in your future.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
January 07 2013 02:21 GMT
#2865
On January 07 2013 06:46 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 06:21 slOosh wrote:
On January 07 2013 06:13 iamperfection wrote:
On January 07 2013 06:10 Djodref wrote:
@ iamp

Are you still around ? I think I have an explanation why mafia tried to shoot you at night !
Look at this

1 KP -> one dayvig shooting WBG
1 KP -> one dayvig shooting Keir
0.5 KP -> MZ is mason
remaining 0.5 KP rounded to 1 KP -> shoot iamp at night !

The remaining KP gets rounded, that's what we were missing !

Is that even how it works?

If the mafia use 2.5 of their kp on abilities can the remaining .5 be used to as normal kp since it would be rounded up?

Yes.


@ iamp

So what to you think about this ?
MZ is scum mason, hoping that the KP usage for the masonry gets unnoticed because of this trick.
That's why you got shot at night and not by a dayvig !

i would like to see the logs so i could judge for myself.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
January 07 2013 14:36 GMT
#2895
does anyone agree with me on foolishness?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
January 07 2013 15:57 GMT
#2898
Why do you think point 3 is scummy?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
January 07 2013 16:04 GMT
#2902
On January 08 2013 00:59 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 00:51 Vivax wrote:

Alright, so iamp actually referenced MZ in reply to Hiros' statement that "he" doesn't seem to be reading the thread.
It's actually not evident at all who "He" is, in this part of the thread it's like impossible to know if the people talking are actually understanding each other.

And yet, debears was immediately satisfied with iamps' answer, even though to me it looks that iamp himself misunderstood who they were talking about. And that gives me reason to believe that debears wasn't interested in pursuing iamp in the first place, he was interested in making pseudo-cases.



can you explain this like i'm 5?

He is saying that at the time i actually misunderstood who was be talked about and if you look at it at the time it isnt clear who we are talking about at the time to anyone.

Then i answered debars suspicion and he immediately dropped suspicion based on my answer which makes no sense.

Also no matter who i was referencing it makes zero sense to say it makes me scum. I believe he said if i was refrencing supersoft it made me scum and he never explained why that would make me scum
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
January 07 2013 18:52 GMT
#2945
On January 08 2013 03:21 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 23:36 iamperfection wrote:
does anyone agree with me on foolishness?


First of all, I think it's too early for you to make a connection cases between CC and him. I wouldn't expect CCs flip to be alignment indicative of the people attacking him.
I don't agree with Foolishs' read on CC, Palmar said that town Foolishness posts very good reads. He posted a read that doesn't include CCs scum game, instead just two town games, although the posting frequency argument holds.
But I would expect someone renowned like Foolish to double check his reads better and include CCs scum game like I did.
2 pages of filter is pretty sad for such a renowned town player, but according to Palmar that's the vets' style.
Until we see more, Fool is null for me.

Now, Palmar agrees with him on CC without noticing that he didn't post all of meta.
I actually can't trust Palmar on anything he says anymore since he's playing on his own and trolling the shit out of us, and giving him cred for posting that list is shit cause mafia know who's town anyway, so he's always going to step onto the right feet.

Palmar is currently among the bad boys for me, although he would have fooled us like a boss with his irc chat. He looks quite sincere in his interactions with iamp.

I believe that we should pull Toad out of his comfort zone and let him know that we're going to stalk his posts. Such a talkative player shouldn't be silent in this phase.
Same for grush, Djo, thrawn, froggy, MZ, Sentinel.
Djo started singing like a rockstar when he had enough votes poking his ass in Hero MM

@Iamp

Did Palmar invite you first to his irc domain or did you ask for a live chat system?

I think you need to reread my point on foolishness i said the opposite with regards to him and CC.

I messaged palmar on irc because why not
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