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Marv I say you are acting like hapa's metacase describes your scumplay.
You say "look at these other games tho!"
When hapa made the case against you, you said
The closest comparison game is Dwarf Fortress, where I made 2 votes all day - first on Custos for not caring about town and secondly on prplhz for not caring about town. I thought a lot about the other flavour of the day in that game (forumite), decided I didn't want to lynch him, and then did remarkably little to stop him getting lynched.
My last scum game, Liquid City - how many people did I express suspicions/scumreads on? Many. Let's meta my last scum game and this game then?
Also a "look at all these other games" type defense.
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On January 05 2013 00:37 Palmar wrote:
Here marv
*hands marv a piece of paper*
You can call me bad for 1 day in any game you'd like if you flip town.
I don't care about any other game, I call you shit when I want, it's this game i care about
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On January 05 2013 00:38 kushm4sta wrote:Marv I say you are acting like hapa's metacase describes your scumplay. You say "look at these other games tho!" When hapa made the case against you, you said Show nested quote +The closest comparison game is Dwarf Fortress, where I made 2 votes all day - first on Custos for not caring about town and secondly on prplhz for not caring about town. I thought a lot about the other flavour of the day in that game (forumite), decided I didn't want to lynch him, and then did remarkably little to stop him getting lynched.
My last scum game, Liquid City - how many people did I express suspicions/scumreads on? Many. Let's meta my last scum game and this game then? Also a "look at all these other games" type defense.
i make the same defence as town
get over it
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some earlier words about lm:
+ Show Spoiler +On January 03 2013 16:33 thrawn2112 wrote:lazermonkey strongest scumread atm. talks about his vote as if it's meaningless...... Show nested quote +On January 03 2013 08:40 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 03 2013 08:39 iamperfection wrote:On January 03 2013 08:37 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 03 2013 08:34 kushm4sta wrote:On January 03 2013 08:33 iamperfection wrote:On January 03 2013 08:27 kushm4sta wrote:
@iamp I didn't run away im lurking. do you feel like commenting on anything or do you plan on being useless? no to both ##Vote: kushm4staThis guy... let me give you some insight into kush. he says retarded things all the time regardless of alignment (regardless of being in game or not really). Change your mind at all? The game just started, and I'm perfectly okay with swapping my vote later on. ......and acts similarly with his tunkeg vote. Show nested quote +On January 03 2013 07:04 Lazermonkey wrote:
So, anyone feel like policy lynching grush just for the lulz? He is going to troll the game 24/7 no matter what alignment he gets... That's absolutely wrong. Lazer go read town grush's filter in hero and let me know if you are willing to stand by that statement. LM also wants to kill kush because of meta reasons and I disagree with that. scum kush may be a little tricky to pick out but I think town kush is easily identifiable. Other than pushing policy lynches on players who aren't that hard to read when they're town, Lm hasn't been scumhunting. The closest he's come to scumhunting was his omgus fight with tunkeg and his last stance on that issue was wishy washy (a vote, that, self admittedly will change)
stuff about specific phrasing/word choice
+ Show Spoiler +On January 03 2013 17:59 Lazermonkey wrote:
I read through the thread quickly once and I must say hopeless looks bad. He has a scum read on Palmar, tho not willing to9 lynch him. And like Toad pointed out earlier, the way he is reacting to post just doesn't make alot of sense to me. In a bad way. "hopeless looks bad" is not what you say when you're town and think someone is scum, it's what a scum would think to themselves when trying to decide who they want to mislynch. same type of phrasing is used a couple sentences later with "doesn't make a lot of sense to me. In a bad way." It like he's giving us the entire translation process between picking on something to attack and spinning it to make it look like a real accusation.
tunkeg stuff
+ Show Spoiler +I don't like the entire interaction between lm/tunkeg. LM starts by aggressively going after tunkeg (who I know has a good chance of being mislynched if town) but at the end of his attack qualifies his vote as "subject to change." Aren't all votes subject to change? Why does LM need to tell us this? In his very next post after the vote he says "Will also do a quick meta check on tunkeg to see if he always plays like this. I may consider swapping my vote then." Again, why say this? Why not just do the meta research and let the thread know about your conclusions when you reach them? Looks like he's setting himself up to unvote tunkeg before he even does his "research." Then he explains why tunkeg's meta this game is similar to his play in hero, and unvotes him. I wouldn't expect someone who is so aggressively attacking another player to be staved off by 1 game's worth of meta research.
summary of his general play
+ Show Spoiler +-Starts off by being open to dumb policy lynches (grush and kush) -has an omgus fight with tunkeg which he quickly backs down on because of meta -switched to hopeless after tunkeg, then was open to lynching palmar before all the log stuff happened. there's this quote where he once again begins laying the groundwork for how he going to change his reads before he changes them: On January 04 2013 19:41 Lazermonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2013 19:39 yamato77 wrote:On January 04 2013 19:37 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 04 2013 19:36 yamato77 wrote:
What does he gain from showing the logs? I think him playing the game for real is proof enough. I can get a good read from his opinions on people, I believe. What opinions...? Mainly his scum read on Marv. That should be a good one. He keeps calling me town, which is correct, so he's either playing like smart Palmar from last game or he's buddying me and hoping I sheep him like I did last game. Well, if he mananges to pull out a good case vs Marv I'm willing not to lynch him. - tunkeg/hopeless/palmar/marv... those are a mix of extremely bandwagony lynches and potential easy mislynches
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thrawn we're not lynching Lasermonkey, spend your time elsewhere
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well i don't want to lynch either you or palmar
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On January 05 2013 00:41 thrawn2112 wrote:
well i don't want to lynch either you or palmar
How do you feel about cc's promised, yet undelivered, reads
On January 04 2013 08:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2013 08:23 iamperfection wrote:On January 04 2013 08:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 04 2013 08:20 debears wrote:On January 04 2013 08:18 iamperfection wrote:
you should join the wagon of justice as well debars Can we please keep CC around til at least day 2? I love the kid. He's so funny Nope. All serious biz this game. Lynch me Dibbers c'mon. hey you haven't tried to hunt scum at all. What have you to say to this accusation? It's not an accusation - it's truth. Truth for half the players too. Don't worry I'll be cooking up something later tonight after work.
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On January 05 2013 00:41 thrawn2112 wrote:
well i don't want to lynch either you or palmar
Why not? Lynching marv is a pretty good experiment.
I mean, it's not the traditional hobby-lynch (bugs or VE or something) but it's a fun alternative.
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kush, I know you're desperate to lynch me, you can leave your vote on me dear. Nothing I can say will convince you otherwise.
On one side there is kush and toad who are too stupid to understand what is scum and what is not
On the other there is Palmar who is too arrogant and tunnel-y to have his mind changed
It's the middleground people I need. The Lazers, froggys, VEs, even the supersofts. Anyone with a brain, basically.
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On January 05 2013 00:41 thrawn2112 wrote:
well i don't want to lynch either you or palmar
look at adam and cheesecake then
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those lynches are boring 50/50 policy lynches
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not 50/50..scum/total players
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actually they're not, but marv is still a better lynch.
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On January 05 2013 00:42 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2013 00:41 thrawn2112 wrote:
well i don't want to lynch either you or palmar How do you feel about cc's promised, yet undelivered, reads Show nested quote +On January 04 2013 08:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 04 2013 08:23 iamperfection wrote:On January 04 2013 08:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 04 2013 08:20 debears wrote:On January 04 2013 08:18 iamperfection wrote:
you should join the wagon of justice as well debars Can we please keep CC around til at least day 2? I love the kid. He's so funny Nope. All serious biz this game. Lynch me Dibbers c'mon. hey you haven't tried to hunt scum at all. What have you to say to this accusation? It's not an accusation - it's truth. Truth for half the players too. Don't worry I'll be cooking up something later tonight after work.
don;t remember who it was but somebody pointed out the difference between scum cc and town cc, scum cc posts are much better quality. in witchcraft i thought cc was 100% scum because of how trollish/annoying/illogical his posts were and he ended up flipping town.
if the point of lynching cc is to lynch a lurker i'd prefer selecting from people with lower content
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thrawn, your case is just sooo bad. I don't know what to say even. Like you point out several things but HOW do them make me scummy? Like all your points are based on very extreme WIFOM.
I never said my vote is useless. It is however not very usefull when it's 45 hours untill lynch and I'm the only one that's voting the person.
the phrasing thing is not a proof of anything really.
Firstly, how was my push against Tunkeg OMGUS? You then say that it is scummy that I first tell everyone that I'm going to check Tunkeg's meta before doing it. Well, it isn't.
My grush/kush policy thing was hardly serious.
You say I'm trying to bandwagon but that's also massive WIFOM. Maybe I'm just town who reconsider.
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On January 05 2013 00:51 Palmar wrote:
actually they're not, but marv is still a better lynch.
the fact you think i'm a good day 1 lynch shows how bloated your stupid ego is
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On January 05 2013 00:50 kushm4sta wrote:
those lynches are boring 50/50 policy lynches
no they aren't. Jackal is a 50/50 policy lynch.
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On January 05 2013 00:52 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2013 00:42 Hopeless1der wrote:On January 05 2013 00:41 thrawn2112 wrote:
well i don't want to lynch either you or palmar How do you feel about cc's promised, yet undelivered, reads On January 04 2013 08:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 04 2013 08:23 iamperfection wrote:On January 04 2013 08:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 04 2013 08:20 debears wrote:On January 04 2013 08:18 iamperfection wrote:
you should join the wagon of justice as well debars Can we please keep CC around til at least day 2? I love the kid. He's so funny Nope. All serious biz this game. Lynch me Dibbers c'mon. hey you haven't tried to hunt scum at all. What have you to say to this accusation? It's not an accusation - it's truth. Truth for half the players too. Don't worry I'll be cooking up something later tonight after work. don;t remember who it was but somebody pointed out the difference between scum cc and town cc, scum cc posts are much better quality. in witchcraft i thought cc was 100% scum because of how trollish/annoying/illogical his posts were and he ended up flipping town. if the point of lynching cc is to lynch a lurker i'd prefer selecting from people with lower content
uhh, unless there was more, I remember it was kush, and thinking 'godamnit' to myself:
On January 04 2013 13:46 kushm4sta wrote:
town cheesecake seems more trolly. "Cool story" etc
scum cheesecake makes cleaner posts. So for meta reasons with 2 games experience.
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i will take marvs own advice that he gave me before this game started.
You have my sword palmar
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Agree with kush/thrawn on the CC. He can just as well be a lazy townie.
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