On January 04 2013 11:17 wherebugsgo wrote:
I don't actually remember the last time Palmar got any sort of pressure on d1.

In fact I don't even remember when the last time he was anywhere close to being lynched as either alignment.

when i last lynched him, of course.

marvellosity

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January 04 2013 02:24 GMT

#1197

Still waiting on that Tunkeg post, debears.

marvellosity

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January 04 2013 02:34 GMT

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On January 04 2013 11:29 VisceraEyes wrote:

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Yeah that's the conclusion I came to as well. GOSH YOU MUST BE ALL DOPED UP IF WE'RE THINKING THE SAME THINGS BUGS!

and it's a really dumb thing as well, because if he is town he's making town waste time on him like this.

hey wbg, what do you make of BC so far?

marvellosity

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January 04 2013 02:52 GMT

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On January 04 2013 11:50 wherebugsgo wrote:
iamp you should post your logs now.

I don't find BC scummy atm. I actually agree with what Foolishess said about him earlier, though Foolishness hasn't said much-that in itself was worth remembering.

it worries me a bit that i haven't really noticed him at all.

marvellosity

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January 04 2013 02:59 GMT

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probably not.

marvellosity

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January 04 2013 03:17 GMT

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On January 04 2013 12:11 wherebugsgo wrote:
it doesn't matter who it was, I have never encountered a town mason pair that

1. heavily implies they are masons in thread just for kicks
2. is not able to produce logs on demand

There is something really weird going on, I'll give you that.

That said, I would be inclined to believe they are both town if they produce the kind of logs that I am expecting. I'm not quite sure how scum mason works (scum PM host immediately at the start of the day and choose someone?). If the logs are good (and it will be easy to tell whether they are from iamp or Palmar, or the effort that's gone into them) then likeliest they are both town. But yeah, it depends what we see when we see it.

iamp, did you mason Palmar or did he mason you?

marvellosity

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January 04 2013 03:26 GMT

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right, so let's wait and see for the logs. I guess we can talk about other stuff in the meanwhile.

marvellosity

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January 04 2013 03:31 GMT

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The case didn't really demonstrate at all any differences in his town/scum games. Tunkeg earlier in the game gave a list of reads with explanations very much like the one that debears quotes from Hero mini. Apart from that there's nothing.

marvellosity

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January 04 2013 03:36 GMT

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On January 04 2013 12:33 debears wrote:

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do you deny that he is fucking scummy this game at the very least?

In Hero he didn't give reads until he was about to get lynched basically. He was easy lynchbait the whole game. Of course his play is scummy here, just like it was in Hero. He might even be scum, I dunno yet. Nothing in your case made me go "a-ha! nice!"

marvellosity

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January 04 2013 03:38 GMT

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On January 04 2013 12:37 debears wrote:

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His activity all hero was 3 pages. His day 1 was 1 page exactly. He has 3 pages halfway into d1 and nothing to show for it

So he's more active and equally unproductive. So?

marvellosity

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January 04 2013 03:47 GMT

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On January 04 2013 12:45 Toadesstern wrote:
##vote: wherebugsgo

explain yourself, you putrid pile of poop.

marvellosity

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January 04 2013 03:56 GMT

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what are his questionable reads?

marvellosity

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January 04 2013 11:36 GMT

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On January 04 2013 17:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I can't wait for these logs lol. I can't tell what's better; the fact that they could both be scum and just faking it or the fact that one of them could be scum regardless of what the logs say.

Meaning whatever they say is irrelevant and won't tell us anything about either players alignment.

simply totally untrue, and you're bad for thinking all of this

marvellosity

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January 04 2013 11:37 GMT

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oh wait, Palmar is voting me? He's scum then.

He did the same in Rock band. I'm simply not scum.

marvellosity

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January 04 2013 11:41 GMT

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Palmar, you're wrong, which makes you scum. I have very little else to say about it. You don't understand me or my play at all if you genuinely think I'm scum, which means you must be scum. It's very simple.

marvellosity

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January 04 2013 11:41 GMT

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also, there are still no logs. So whatever.

marvellosity

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January 04 2013 11:43 GMT

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Like, you missed off my entire point last night where I spoke about how your actions day 1 made you likely scum. Your case is bad, and Palmar cases aren't bad. There's nothing else in your case.

marvellosity

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January 04 2013 11:44 GMT

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what baffles me most is that iamp for some reason thinks Palmar is town. So we better see these logs pretty quickly, to see whose alignment is what. Whether iamp (who i am quite sure is town) has just been mindfucked by Palmar, or what. I don't understand that part of the puzzle right now.

marvellosity

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January 04 2013 11:45 GMT

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On January 04 2013 20:43 Palmar wrote:

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Nah, and the fact you're not even giving the possibility I am town a thought looks pretty bad for you. There is a chance I'm wrong, but more likely than not I'm right. You cannot deny that you have not pushed a single read this game, only vaguely commented on a few. The only contributions you've made is providing random insight into how I play.

But feel free to try to counterwagon me, it'll be fun. I even have a lot of stuff for you to go after if you so wish.

I pushed you, and you were the leading vote-getter by at least a couple of votes. Get a grip.

marvellosity

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January 04 2013 11:48 GMT

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On January 04 2013 20:43 Clarity_nl wrote:
marv although I have my doubts when it comes to palmar's case, some of it rings true, it would still be appreciated if you addressed it.
Are you saying that you're invested as scum, or are you saying that you're not always invested as town.... orrrrr?

Palmar, I'd like you to look at Paranoia and tell me how marv plays d1 in that, compared to the filter that you linked in your case (wherein he says pregame he will try to not spam up the place as much as normal)

There is literally nothing to address. Palmar attempts to use meta, but he doesn't try to draw parallels between this game and Hero (or any other scumgame) at all. My play this game is not unrepresentative of my townplay, given shockingly I'm town. The only difference is that this is the first full-sized normal I've played for a while.

I have no idea what you want me to answer and I'm suspicious of you for asking me to answer this case.