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On January 09 2013 09:02 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Oh btw guys I'm Bob the Builder the Vanilla Townie. I'm cool enough to have a name! Prolly still means I'm scum tho. I even breadcrumbed my vt name cus i knew not caring would get me killed etc etc. @ Cheese Why did you think your name was going to save you after XXX ? Did you not notice that everybody have names in this game ? Here, from the OP, On October 08 2012 03:28 Kurumi wrote: *snip* Vanilla Townie! - They can have names, too! *snip* | ||
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On January 08 2013 11:55 thrawn2112 wrote: thrawn's current lynch candidates for D3 by pref: djo, prom, (MZ) he's not down with the cc lynch. if he were to pick anyone in the game right now to be most likely to be a mislynch, it's cc. MZ in parenthesis because he really doesn't know wtf to think about him. thrawn doesnt understand what mz could be trying to accomplish if he's actually a town mason. the refusal to show logs is just wtf. palmar can you do something interesting tomorrow? Please explain me how I can be your first lynch candidate, seriously. Also I would like to know your other scumreads atm. What do you think of Hiro and Foolish ? I understand my activity and my contributions are less than usual but I've addressed this already. I'm starting to think that you are tunneling me for the sake of tunneling someone. | ||
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He is more active and seems really emotionally involved. I also think he enjoys playing scum so he wouldn't really care about the thread atmosphere and/or the rules so much as scum. | ||
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Debears the OMGUS way Here are the main reasons why debears is scum
Part I --- Fake contributions First of all, please remember debears idea of a random lynch. Did he push this idea ? Not really... Did he really think it through ? No, because he came up with statistics supporting a random lynch, when they are actually against a random lynch in our case. On January 03 2013 14:13 debears wrote: Should be pretty clear. Random lynching is more successful than actual trying to lynch a scum by scumreads d1. You can't diss random lynching On December 25 2012 14:00 kitaman27 wrote: *snip* Mafia players are lynched 21.1% of the time on day one. Random lynching would result in a mafia lynch 24.6% of the time. 44% of players playing in a newbie game have returned to play in at least 1 other game. There have been 931 distinct mafia players. If debears was really thinking at a random lynch for our game, he would have noticed that our chances to hit mafia with a random lynch were at 20%, which is even less that the global average of 21.1%. The fact that he didn't really pay attention to what he was proposing and that he didn't follow it through at all shows that he didn't want to do a random lynch in the first place. This contribution is totally fake, just a nice way to enter the thread for a scum player. Another example is here. Debears put up an act with Chezinu and made several posts of jokes and stuff about it. In here, you can see that he quickly identified Palmar and iamp as masons. Maybe a little too quickly for a town player in my taste. On January 04 2013 08:32 debears wrote: Btw Iamp what are you guys calling your society? Is it still the Circle of Superfriends? I will talk over joining you with the rest of The Brown Brotherhood The best example of debears fake contribution is the following post. On January 06 2013 03:47 debears wrote: Guys, with the thread as shitty as it is right now, I would like to propose a plan: Everyone, shut up, and do voting analysis with the info on the marv and BC flips. Let's make night all about voting analysis, and get on track What do we know about the day 1 lynch candidates? They were both town. It is way more likely scum didn't give a fuck where their votes were. We need to look for people who didn't really give a shit where their votes were, especially concerning BC and marv Did he follow up with that post ? No. For example, he never mentions the fact that Vivax vote was on tube on D1 when he calls Vivax scum. That's why I think it was a fake contribution again. An other thing that I don't like here is that debears vote on marv was pretty sheepy and scummy. I would mean that his post points towards a hole in his play. Maybe he was expecting us to fall into his WIFOM trap at this point. Another fake contribution is this one. This was utterly useless, while allowing him to discredit iamp, when iamp, on top of looking like his town self, is almost confirmed town. On January 07 2013 04:35 debears wrote: Hey guys I want to point something out about Iamp that I'm not liking right now 1) He claimed mason 2) The scum know that day vigs are unblockable 3) the scum for some reason felt the need to nk iamp, even though he's a mason who already used his power with palmar. All scum would have to do is wait til right after the nightpost to shoot him with an unblockable day vig instead of risking being blocked 4) We had 2 cops flip d1, including a role cop. the mafia were at a much lesser risk of being caught with their dayvigs with those flips 5) They didn't nk anyone else, yet had day vigs for 2 others. I'd say if Iamp makes it to lylo, you guys had better lynch the sucker. The mafia's choice to nk instead of dayvig would make no sense if true. However, I don't want to lynch Iamp because of the case that he could possibly be the mason and use his shot sometime I let you be judge of why town debears would post this. Part II --- Doesn't care who is going to get lynched So, debears has been tunneling Tunkeg all day 1 and has been shut down by marv and WBG. Which means that he somehow trusts their judgment. But then On January 05 2013 02:31 debears wrote: ##votr marv Follow palmar the wise Hide in plain sight. Following Palmar, regardless of Palmar alignment, was a perfect excuse for scum to try to get marv mislynched, which they should have dreamed of since they received their role PM. I don't like how he dropped his vote on Cheese today as well. On January 09 2013 07:49 debears wrote: ##Vote CC That's all his contributions for today. Part III --- Discrediting everyone attacking him So far, I have town reads on Vivax and Lazermonkey. I'm quite confident in these reads, because both of them seem genuinely involved, trying to figuring stuff out, and taking care of this game more than a lot of people. So, I'm very surprised that town debears don't share these reads. I mean, Vivax case had some bad points, but some points were good as well. He could have addressed the case without the OMGUS. It is worth of noting that he didn't provide as case, nor interacted with them so much before calling them scum. Debears had nothing to do with Vivax before that, and it's even more flagrant with LM. The accusation is coming out of nowhere. Part IV --- Going for the easy targets then backing off From Hero Mini Mafia, debears should have known that Tunkeg, when town, is an easy mislynch. I'm quite surprised he chose Tunkeg for his tunnel, while knowing that. More surprising is how he let himself shut down but WBG and marv. Even more surprising is how he doesn't care about Prome anymore. Since Tunkeg has been replaced, debears doesn't put any pressure at all on Prom. Yet his suspicions are still here. And he should know that giving replacements some leeway is not necessarily good, because it has for example allowed me to survive for too long in Mario Mini Mafia. On January 08 2013 06:36 debears wrote: I was shut down hard by multiple vets including marv and WBG. Marv's reaction to my case on Tunkeg was not what I expected of town Marv either. Palmar's thoughts reflected those of my own Prom is more active than Tun, but he hasn't done much. I'd rather keep him alive for now and see what he does Here is what he thinks about Prom right now, so I don't see why he wouldn't be after him today, even yesterday. Another easy target to go after was me, because of my low activity at the beginning. Please notice how debears comes after me with an discrediting post to back up quite quickly when I start to be more active. On January 07 2013 05:11 debears wrote: Hey Iamp. What do you think of Djodref? I have noticed a few things that are alarming 1) His indifference to taking the helm in this game. His activity is much greater in his town games. 2) His weak reasoning for voting BC. He hides it among all the other stuff in this post, and says that the quoted post "serves mafia interest" without explaining 3) He never pushes BC after that 4) He brings up others, yet no real reasoning And then On January 07 2013 09:42 debears wrote: Ok. List of people I want to lynch in order of importance after Jackal CC Djo Hiro/Miscellaneous to change it into On January 08 2013 06:41 debears wrote: List of people that should be lynched, in order of importance after Jackal 1) CC 2) MZ 3) Hiro 4) Vivax/Laser 6) Palmar Let's lynch debears today ! ##Vote debears | ||
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@ iamp I think that Hopeless was your savior. I don't think any scum is going to be safe claiming they have protected you since we have a medic already dead now. Please keep your paranoia at an acceptable level. I didn't find any crumb in his filter for your save, but given how many blues we have already, not even taking MZ into account, I think that we don't have another medic. @ VE I think debears is a better lynch today than Foolishness. I guess a debears lynch could create more discussion than a Foolishness lynch. Please consider my case, OK ? Also you shouldn't waste your time with iamp. At least I don't think so. | ||
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On January 09 2013 12:39 VisceraEyes wrote: You just hold your horses bro. I reposted the case with the express intention of reading it through because I felt bad for spamming it away. Now give people some time to read that monstrosity.  You got me sniped Thanks for the repost ! | ||
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You guys have to realize that Hiro is really flying under the radar for the moment. Debears, HiroPro, Foolishness, Cheesecake. Also, I think we need to consolidate on our lynch candidate, because scum can potentially sway the lynch with the help of day shots.. | ||
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On January 09 2013 13:59 kushm4sta wrote: djodref wayyy tldr it doesn't take a megacase to prove debears is scummy Yes, but I want him lynched today. A mega case helps to get town convinced that your lynch is the right lynch. | ||
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On January 09 2013 13:56 debears wrote: ##Vote Foolishness If CC will not be lynched, then I support a "Foolish" lynch hahaha Do you really care about who is going to get lynched today ? | ||
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On January 09 2013 13:59 kushm4sta wrote: djodref wayyy tldr it doesn't take a megacase to prove debears is scummy Could you vote debears then ? | ||
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unexpected snipe | ||
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Did MZ send you the logs of his conversation with Foolishness ? Can we finally have the logs now ? @ Foolishness Same can we have your logs ? The sooner the better ? | ||
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You are quite quick to change your lynch target. Why are you saying that CC is not going to be lynched when half of town hasn't participated today yet and many votes are missing ? Aren't you supposed to convince us to lynch Cheese instead if hoping on whatever the trendy wagon is ? | ||
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Why don't you care about who is going to get lynched today ? | ||
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@ kush Are you aware that Chezinu is dead ? Would you lynch debears over Prome after my case against him ? | ||
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You got shot D1 in Here Mini Mafia because you nailed Adam as scum very early in the game. Also because you are kind of beacon of townieness when you are town | ||
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@ thrawn So, do you want to lynch Prom or me ? Do you change your lynch candidate based on the general opinion of the thread ? | ||
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Do you have other scum reads except the Cheese Cake and Hiro Pro ? Why do you think debears is town ? | ||
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