On January 04 2013 05:11 Toadesstern wrote:
and you think that's alignment indicative of cheesecake to a point that you'd prefere him instead of other possible targets?

Do you know him?
Is he a vet I don't know?

what other targets? I named like 4 or something.

marvellosity

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January 03 2013 20:14 GMT

#1038

why are you asking me to do your work for you? go and research what he plays like yourself. If I said his name, obviously I feel like he's a decent lynch target.

marvellosity

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January 03 2013 20:19 GMT

#1042

On January 04 2013 05:15 Toadesstern wrote:

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cheesecake to me is someone who's within that mass of players who are playing bad for whatever reason and I'm not willing to make a decision on them right now, neither am I willing to decide on which one of them should be the prime target, like I just told Supersoft recently.

Players like MZ, like Tunkeg, like Clarity or Cheesecake.

All those players other than Tunkeg are usually kinda useful as town.

marvellosity

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January 03 2013 20:27 GMT

#1046

it means i'll have to choose between them at some stage, but not now anyways

marvellosity

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January 03 2013 20:27 GMT

#1047

On January 04 2013 05:26 Toadesstern wrote:

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and you know god damn well that that is not a reason to lynch people, not even if we're talking about vets.
You even criticized Palmar for thinking that way and now you're doing the same thing with players that are WAY MORE likely to just have a bad game somewhere inbetween.

Not saying I'd like those guys alive. By all means, shoot them dead if you're a vig but I don't get how you'd be comfortable enough to pick a lynch out of those this early.

what else do you suggest we pick people out on??? stop nitpicking when you don't have any better bloody ideas.

marvellosity

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January 03 2013 20:29 GMT

#1049

for what purpose? what are you doing this whole game toad?

marvellosity

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January 03 2013 20:38 GMT

#1054

On January 04 2013 05:36 Toadesstern wrote:

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not much yet. I don't want to die n1 again. I know, won't happen with this stacked of a playerfield but you can't be safe enough, can you? :p

I mean, I'm serious with my reads and all that and I'm pretty sure I got some decent ones right now. I'm just not telling you and I have no intention of looking like I'm serious in here :p

I just really don't like lynching into those people Marv wants to lynch into because they tend to flip like someone spinning a wheel of fortune instead of flipping their true alignment.

well until you're willing to share your great wisdoms, why don't you just shut the hell up complaining at other people?

marvellosity

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January 03 2013 21:41 GMT

#1063

On January 04 2013 06:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
So many massive epeenz over compensating lol.

Marv answer me.

i've talked enough about Palmar in my filter, I don't need to say anything more right now.

marvellosity

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January 03 2013 22:00 GMT

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On January 04 2013 06:54 VisceraEyes wrote:

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Rally?

Don'txtoy with my emotions Foolish, because I'll totally vote for Toad right now.

See if you can get to 5 sheeps in a cycle, pumpkin. Making good progress ^_^

marvellosity

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January 03 2013 22:04 GMT

#1070

On January 04 2013 07:02 VisceraEyes wrote:

I have my reasons marv, just because I haventexpressed them in thread.

But you know, continue to just jump my shit for any little thing. It's amusing and shows me you're at least thinking about me. <3

what's with everyone deciding not to tell people things this game?

It's really easy to say you have your reasons, but so far you're just hopping around agreeing with this person or the next.

marvellosity

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January 03 2013 22:14 GMT

#1073

alright, I can understand that. Why did you need Foolish as a catalyst?

marvellosity

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January 03 2013 22:45 GMT

#1089

On January 04 2013 07:44 iamperfection wrote:
good

anyways i disagree ve i think has toad has been overall active and has commented on a lot of the comings and goings of the thread. He is not a good lynch

toad has commented on almost nothing of value.

marvellosity

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January 03 2013 22:59 GMT

#1096

On January 04 2013 07:48 iamperfection wrote:

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so you think he is a good lynch?

I don't want to lynch him yet, but I don't find him a bad lynch. I have nothing to say in Toad's defence at any rate.

marvellosity

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January 04 2013 00:07 GMT

#1143

debears, I am verily looking forward to this post on Tunkeg.

marvellosity

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January 04 2013 01:12 GMT

#1157

On January 04 2013 10:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
Foolishness - LOL
Palmar - /facepalm
supersoft - started out strong, puttered out.
MZ - Clearly not even trying. Null.
BC - ....hold me.
Marv - I'm sensing disappointment. Usually means scum.
VE - Townie town towningtons.
Toad - Is scum. Kill it.

Actually you're right for the first, but it's not quite what you think, and I don't mind explaining it a little. I was quite looking forward to this game because I felt there was a pretty decent chance I was going to be able to play town with at least 1 of Palmar or Foolishness. I've played with Fool twice only and he rolled scum, unfortunately, in both. Palmar I've played with a bunch of times, but so far always with the opposite alignment. Then after that Palmar has basically trolled most of the game (at least, playing nothing like his last few town games where I was either hosting or scum) and Foolishness is doing even worse than this. So yes, I've been disappointed with the game so far.

marvellosity

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January 04 2013 01:15 GMT

#1162

On January 04 2013 10:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
By which I mean, obviously, I understand what you're saying entirely, and this would be an extraordinary post for you to make as scum...not that I don't think you're capable just.....it was so immediate...

well there's no point calling myself town is there, so I'll leave it for you. I only really wanted to answer because you somehow managed to correctly pick out disappointment (rather than anger or irritation or something) from how I played so far. So there you have it ^^

marvellosity

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January 04 2013 01:16 GMT

#1163

On January 04 2013 10:15 Palmar wrote:
I don't understand why people insist I'm trolling.

at the very least, like I just said, you are playing nothing like the last few town games I played with you/watched you play.

marvellosity

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January 04 2013 01:31 GMT

#1180

I'm still pretty happy with my vote on Palmar, for reasons already given. There's nothing in what Palmar has done so far that suggests in the slightest that he gives a shit for town, and he should be one of the town leaders.

This is further exacerbated by a conversation I had with him on IRC a few days ago. We were just talking about his play a little, and I'd told him that a weakness in his play was that he often got caught up in thinking what a town player "should" do, and being wrong as being a scumtell. Shortly after he wrote this in a QT:

"Palmar
12-31-2012
08:39 PM ET (US)

I have a weakness in my game where I just think everyone that doesn't agree with me when I'm right is scum, and everyone who does is town. There is absolutely no reason for me to think Bugs is scum, only the fact he's been wrong all game long. That doesn't make him scum though."

And twice in this conversation on IRC, related to this, he said that Day 1 was his strongest day, because he's not encumbered with flips and this sense of right and wrong.

So his manner of play today makes this even more galling. This is supposedly his strongest day as town by some margin, and he's decided to use it by claiming scum 3 times, generally trolling, giving no reads, or at least no explanation for his reads. As far as I can see, he's banking on people viewing his retarded play as town somehow, even though there is literally nothing townie about it. Recently in his townplay he has been quite happy to tell people why he finds certain people town, and then when he decides someone is scummy, he gives good reasons why. Just none of it this game.

marvellosity

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January 04 2013 01:42 GMT

#1184

just in case you didn't realise, there's a vote-thread, bugs

marvellosity

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January 04 2013 01:53 GMT

#1188

On January 04 2013 10:48 supersoft wrote:
blargh. Palmar is always an easy d1 target. I don't remember any game, where Palmar wasn't accused d1..
You know that, wbg.
He may have overdone the trolling in the last 3-5 hours.
+ ppl that accuse him seem to be kind of suspicious to me:
Marv is focusing Palmar since the beginning and randomly agreeing on every other suspect (his list some pages ago)
MZ now doesnt even think that Palmar is scum.
Toad isn't really suspicious, I think it's just his paranoid townplay... i don't remember whether he does that as scum, too.

I got to think about what marv just posted though...

I can point you to several in the last few months where Palmar was clearly town day 1 and wasn't accused. Normal Mini Mafia 3, Hero Mini Mafia, Yet Another Mini Mafia.