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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 05 2013 13:08 GMT
#2230
you're both probably both not scum marv, jeez
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 05 2013 13:11 GMT
#2234
Lazer why can't MZ and marv not both be scum at the same time in your eyes?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 05 2013 13:11 GMT
#2235
-not

You're rubbing off on me
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 05 2013 13:14 GMT
#2238
On January 05 2013 22:13 Lazermonkey wrote:
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On January 05 2013 22:11 Clarity_nl wrote:
Lazer why can't MZ and marv not both be scum at the same time in your eyes?
They can. But I don't find it very likely.


That's not not not what I asked.

I'm asking WHY it's not very likely in your eyes
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 05 2013 13:19 GMT
#2247
On January 05 2013 22:17 Lazermonkey wrote:
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On January 05 2013 22:14 Clarity_nl wrote:
On January 05 2013 22:13 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 05 2013 22:11 Clarity_nl wrote:
Lazer why can't MZ and marv not both be scum at the same time in your eyes?
They can. But I don't find it very likely.


That's not not not what I asked.

I'm asking WHY it's not very likely in your eyes
Well I don't think scum Marv would attack MZ in the position he is in. There are several people who have posted bad up untill this point so why chose your own team mate. Yes, he COULD be bussing, but I don't think it's likely.


Have you seen marv play scum? Last game he bussed adam because he didn't expect him to get lynched, but he never flinched in the thread even as he was convincing everyone to kill his teammate day 1.
Your reasoning is bad.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 05 2013 13:27 GMT
#2254
On January 05 2013 22:22 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 22:19 Clarity_nl wrote:
On January 05 2013 22:17 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 05 2013 22:14 Clarity_nl wrote:
On January 05 2013 22:13 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 05 2013 22:11 Clarity_nl wrote:
Lazer why can't MZ and marv not both be scum at the same time in your eyes?
They can. But I don't find it very likely.


That's not not not what I asked.

I'm asking WHY it's not very likely in your eyes
Well I don't think scum Marv would attack MZ in the position he is in. There are several people who have posted bad up untill this point so why chose your own team mate. Yes, he COULD be bussing, but I don't think it's likely.


Have you seen marv play scum? Last game he bussed adam because he didn't expect him to get lynched, but he never flinched in the thread even as he was convincing everyone to kill his teammate day 1.
Your reasoning is bad.
I don't see how my reasoning is bad. Like I said myself it is possible for Marv to be bussing but he doesn't have to. And I think it's more likely tahn not that he is not. Your argument is terribad. Just because Marv bussed one in one game doesn't make it MORE likely that he is bussing than not bussing.


You keep saying you "think" things without explaining why. Why do you think it's so unlikely for a scum marv to be bussing a teammate who he knows won't be lynched today,

Everytime you have an answer and the answer includes "I think", try asking "why do I think that" and if that answer includes "I think" do it again. repeat this process until you reach facts or an opinion that makes bloody sense.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 05 2013 13:29 GMT
#2259
On January 05 2013 22:27 marvellosity wrote:
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On January 05 2013 22:27 Clarity_nl wrote:
On January 05 2013 22:22 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 05 2013 22:19 Clarity_nl wrote:
On January 05 2013 22:17 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 05 2013 22:14 Clarity_nl wrote:
On January 05 2013 22:13 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 05 2013 22:11 Clarity_nl wrote:
Lazer why can't MZ and marv not both be scum at the same time in your eyes?
They can. But I don't find it very likely.


That's not not not what I asked.

I'm asking WHY it's not very likely in your eyes
Well I don't think scum Marv would attack MZ in the position he is in. There are several people who have posted bad up untill this point so why chose your own team mate. Yes, he COULD be bussing, but I don't think it's likely.


Have you seen marv play scum? Last game he bussed adam because he didn't expect him to get lynched, but he never flinched in the thread even as he was convincing everyone to kill his teammate day 1.
Your reasoning is bad.
I don't see how my reasoning is bad. Like I said myself it is possible for Marv to be bussing but he doesn't have to. And I think it's more likely tahn not that he is not. Your argument is terribad. Just because Marv bussed one in one game doesn't make it MORE likely that he is bussing than not bussing.


You keep saying you "think" things without explaining why. Why do you think it's so unlikely for a scum marv to be bussing a teammate who he knows won't be lynched today,


Everytime you have an answer and the answer includes "I think", try asking "why do I think that" and if that answer includes "I think" do it again. repeat this process until you reach facts or an opinion that makes bloody sense.


eh, the real question is, why don't you think MZ will be lynched today? I find it highly likely.


Go away marv I'm doing a thing
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 05 2013 13:33 GMT
#2265
On January 05 2013 22:31 Lazermonkey wrote:
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On January 05 2013 22:27 Clarity_nl wrote:
On January 05 2013 22:22 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 05 2013 22:19 Clarity_nl wrote:
On January 05 2013 22:17 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 05 2013 22:14 Clarity_nl wrote:
On January 05 2013 22:13 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 05 2013 22:11 Clarity_nl wrote:
Lazer why can't MZ and marv not both be scum at the same time in your eyes?
They can. But I don't find it very likely.


That's not not not what I asked.

I'm asking WHY it's not very likely in your eyes
Well I don't think scum Marv would attack MZ in the position he is in. There are several people who have posted bad up untill this point so why chose your own team mate. Yes, he COULD be bussing, but I don't think it's likely.


Have you seen marv play scum? Last game he bussed adam because he didn't expect him to get lynched, but he never flinched in the thread even as he was convincing everyone to kill his teammate day 1.
Your reasoning is bad.
I don't see how my reasoning is bad. Like I said myself it is possible for Marv to be bussing but he doesn't have to. And I think it's more likely tahn not that he is not. Your argument is terribad. Just because Marv bussed one in one game doesn't make it MORE likely that he is bussing than not bussing.


You keep saying you "think" things without explaining why. Why do you think it's so unlikely for a scum marv to be bussing a teammate who he knows won't be lynched today,

Everytime you have an answer and the answer includes "I think", try asking "why do I think that" and if that answer includes "I think" do it again. repeat this process until you reach facts or an opinion that makes bloody sense.
Clarity wtf is wrong with you? So how do you KNOW that Marv is bussing?


HOW DO YOU EVEN FUCKCCKCCKCKCKCKC

You say it's unlikely for both to be scum, I ask you why it's unlikely for a scum marv to bus a scum MZ.
It's called a hypothetical, this isn't hard
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 05 2013 13:34 GMT
#2268
I don't believe they're both scum, I believe marv is town, although it's not a strong read.
You believe they can't both be scum, but you have no reasoning beyond "I think this"
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 05 2013 13:37 GMT
#2271
On January 05 2013 22:34 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 22:33 Clarity_nl wrote:
On January 05 2013 22:31 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 05 2013 22:27 Clarity_nl wrote:
On January 05 2013 22:22 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 05 2013 22:19 Clarity_nl wrote:
On January 05 2013 22:17 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 05 2013 22:14 Clarity_nl wrote:
On January 05 2013 22:13 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 05 2013 22:11 Clarity_nl wrote:
Lazer why can't MZ and marv not both be scum at the same time in your eyes?
They can. But I don't find it very likely.


That's not not not what I asked.

I'm asking WHY it's not very likely in your eyes
Well I don't think scum Marv would attack MZ in the position he is in. There are several people who have posted bad up untill this point so why chose your own team mate. Yes, he COULD be bussing, but I don't think it's likely.


Have you seen marv play scum? Last game he bussed adam because he didn't expect him to get lynched, but he never flinched in the thread even as he was convincing everyone to kill his teammate day 1.
Your reasoning is bad.
I don't see how my reasoning is bad. Like I said myself it is possible for Marv to be bussing but he doesn't have to. And I think it's more likely tahn not that he is not. Your argument is terribad. Just because Marv bussed one in one game doesn't make it MORE likely that he is bussing than not bussing.


You keep saying you "think" things without explaining why. Why do you think it's so unlikely for a scum marv to be bussing a teammate who he knows won't be lynched today,

Everytime you have an answer and the answer includes "I think", try asking "why do I think that" and if that answer includes "I think" do it again. repeat this process until you reach facts or an opinion that makes bloody sense.
Clarity wtf is wrong with you? So how do you KNOW that Marv is bussing?


HOW DO YOU EVEN FUCKCCKCCKCKCKCKC

You say it's unlikely for both to be scum, I ask you why it's unlikely for a scum marv to bus a scum MZ.
It's called a hypothetical, this isn't hard
In my personal experience, and I am sure you also feel this way, scum is more inclined to push townies than scum.


Yes, but scum pushing scum is not unlikely, and this post:
On January 05 2013 22:06 Lazermonkey wrote:
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On January 05 2013 21:39 marvellosity wrote:
On January 05 2013 18:37 Lazermonkey wrote:
So I woke up...

Marv may very well be scum after all. Two slow alignment cops seems quite unlikely, espesially given that we had a day cop as well.

I actually like his case on MZ tho. Especially the points regarding Tunkeg. But I'm puzzled. I'm not keen at lynching him at all tomorrow because most likely both of them are NOT scum. And I'm more suspicious of Marv.

A vigi shot on tube is bad also imo. The vigi(s), if there are any, should be aiming for the most suspicous person. Not a retarded lurker



You better explain all of this drivel. You like my case, but MZ is most likely not scum? Why? Seriously, explain yourself.

Why is a vig shot on tube bad? Have you even read the thread this night time? Did you see the comparison filters that Foolish/I put forward? How on earth is he a bad shot in light of that?
I don't see how its strange.


My thought process
1.) I think your are quite suspicious
2.) I think you have some good points about MZ, making me somewhat suspicious of him as well.
3.) You both are probebly both not scum
4.) I find you more suspicous than MZ
5.) Thus I don't think it's very likely that MZ is scum
6.) If you actually are town, then I'm truly suspicous of MZ once again.

You exclude the possibility from your thought process.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 05 2013 13:39 GMT
#2274
Marv you shouldn't ragequit replacement. As scum it would be distasteful to even mention that and I think you know that, and as town it's just not cool and also puts an unfair "mod-confirmed townie" in the game.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 05 2013 13:42 GMT
#2281
On January 05 2013 22:40 supersoft wrote:
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On January 05 2013 22:39 Clarity_nl wrote:
Marv you shouldn't ragequit replacement. As scum it would be distasteful to even mention that and I think you know that, and as town it's just not cool and also puts an unfair "mod-confirmed townie" in the game.


wait what? Modconfirmed townie?


Yeah, if marv asks for a replacement IN THREAD and ragequits, and then gets replaced instead of modkilled and flipped scum I would call that person town. And that really sucks and it shouldn't happen.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 05 2013 13:46 GMT
#2285
On January 05 2013 22:45 Djodref wrote:
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On January 05 2013 22:42 Clarity_nl wrote:
On January 05 2013 22:40 supersoft wrote:
On January 05 2013 22:39 Clarity_nl wrote:
Marv you shouldn't ragequit replacement. As scum it would be distasteful to even mention that and I think you know that, and as town it's just not cool and also puts an unfair "mod-confirmed townie" in the game.


wait what? Modconfirmed townie?


Yeah, if marv asks for a replacement IN THREAD and ragequits, and then gets replaced instead of modkilled and flipped scum I would call that person town. And that really sucks and it shouldn't happen.


Ok, I get you now. I don't think the host is going to allow anything then, you can rest at peace.


That's my point, this situation sucks. I don't really know how to feel about it.
Sentinel totally scum though, whatcha think djo?>
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 05 2013 14:19 GMT
#2298
I think the case itself isn't bad, but I don't believe hopeless is scum right now.
Policy talk is kind of his thing, as either alignment. Hopeless has this nasty habit as town to not scumhunt, sometimes.
Him switching votes like 4x close to deadline makes me think he's town.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 05 2013 14:23 GMT
#2300
What do you think of Sentinel and my case on him, Lazer?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 05 2013 14:51 GMT
#2308
On January 05 2013 23:43 Lazermonkey wrote:
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On January 05 2013 23:23 Clarity_nl wrote:
What do you think of Sentinel and my case on him, Lazer?
Hmmm, I think you are grasping at straws a bit. Attacking the ways he is expressing himself and what not. alot of it comes down to WIFOM. Like your using this as a argument for him being scum:
Show nested quote +
Let's start with the very first sentence:
Good. Nobody has missed me. I wish I was a scum, I could lurk all the way to morning or even the deadline.


"lol you guys I wish I was scum, because if I was scum I would continue lurking, therefore this statement is me implying I'm town"
Implying that you are town is a scummy thing to do, town have no need for it, they ARE town, they don't have to imply it.
But more telling than that is that Sentinel betrays his own priorities, namely that while reading through the thread the first thing he looks for is if anyone is suspicious of him. Town look for scum, and if they see a case on themselves then they might react, they don't react to the fact that there is no case on them.
Though I think that its entirely possible that he is just a lazy townie and what not. His play isn't really pro-town but he is not playing a very good scum game either. I'm not keen on lynching him tomrrow really. He is null for me.


It shows a scum mindset. As town you might care about not getting lynched, but until that point you don't care what people think of you that much. As scum you care a helluva lot more, and him lurking and then going "wtf I'm not under suspicion?" is total scum mindset.
Implying you are town is on the list of top 10 things scum like to do.

If he was a lazy townie then he wouldn't suddenly be surprised that no one finds him suspicious.
if he was a lazy townie then he wouldn't make a promise to go super scumhunting and then not follow through. That's scum trying to force himself to contribute but not being able to, because it's hard to scumhunt when you're scum.

He didn't have the balls to call me scum, he never followed up on reading Hero Mini, and even his vote on Palmar was because he was scum, it was because he hadn't posted the logs
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 05 2013 14:52 GMT
#2310
Lazer. what arguements I make in my case exactly do you believe to be WIFOM?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 05 2013 14:58 GMT
#2312
Work from the assumption that he's actually quitting and if he didn't then he'll be modkilled, like the rest of us, and move on and go scumhunt.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 05 2013 15:13 GMT
#2317
On January 06 2013 00:10 yamato77 wrote:
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On January 05 2013 23:58 Djodref wrote:
On January 05 2013 23:51 yamato77 wrote:
Fuck you Marv for quitting. I was going to write a big ass case about why you were a good lynch day 1 and why people should look at you again day 2 but now you've ruined that.

I can't speak for everyone in this game, but I believe my win con states that I actually have to kill mafia. To do that I have to be able to find them but right now it is a difficult task discerning stupid from scum, sheep from wolf. Some of you players ought to rethink your strategy this game.


I don't think marv is going to get allowed to quit. You should calm down and write your case.
Who else do you have as scum ?

Bugs and VE.


I haven't really read bugs but VE is town yo. Look at him he's so happy he hasn't rolled scum for like the billionth time in a row.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 05 2013 16:04 GMT
#2330
On January 06 2013 00:54 supersoft wrote:
bug, marv and you... how is that OP against Palmar, Foolish, BC and me?
get ready to get crushed.


In fact. you did play well in Bureacracy, and were much more outspoken. It was in July though.
Whatsup?
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