I actually think I am doing a decent job. My only problem is that I need to continue the list and then make proper reads from it. But I am busy doing stoichiometry exercises before lessons begin again, I'll obey and post them too if Palmar orders.

I'd be quite content to kill tube. I'm not sure about this Bugs thing, I don't have that prejudice against him.

yamato77

11589 Posts

January 03 2013 15:03 GMT

#851

On January 04 2013 00:00 Palmar wrote:
That's a good effort compared to the last time you played scum Adam, maybe you'll live to day 2 this game.

This is the first post you've made in a while with some sort of read in it yet I'm supposed to take you seriously?

Okay Palmar.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

January 03 2013 15:05 GMT

#852

tube is vig-food. As usual it's vigi job to kill scummy shitlurkers.

thrawn2112

United States6918 Posts

January 03 2013 15:05 GMT

#853

On January 04 2013 00:01 Vivax wrote:
I actually think I am doing a decent job. My only problem is that I need to continue the list and then make proper reads from it. But I am busy doing stoichiometry exercises before lessons begin again, I'll obey and post them too if Palmar orders.

I'd be quite content to kill tube. I'm not sure about this Bugs thing, I don't have that prejudice against him.

there's not really a 'bugs thing.' it's a silly policy lynch and you're either for it or against it.... not really that much to discuss or think about. You saying that you're "not sure" about it implies that you might be willing to go along with it. So are you for or against it?

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

January 03 2013 15:06 GMT

#854

On January 04 2013 00:01 Vivax wrote:
I actually think I am doing a decent job. My only problem is that I need to continue the list and then make proper reads from it. But I am busy doing stoichiometry exercises before lessons begin again, I'll obey and post them too if Palmar orders.

I'd be quite content to kill tube. I'm not sure about this Bugs thing, I don't have that prejudice against him.

So I learnt a new word today.

Anyway, I agree with Adam on Clarity. In both Hero and Mario mafia where Clarity was town, he came basically straight out the gate finding things suspicious (jay, and s&b's VT 'slip' respectively). In his only scum game he struggled to get early scumreads, much like here. Clarity isn't aggressively questioning anyone to try to get scumreads, given he doesn't have any so far, either. He chose to mention Palmar's video thing which seemed a total non-thing to mention, especially as it had been and gone.

Vivax

22407 Posts

January 03 2013 15:08 GMT

#855

I'm willing to sheep Palmar on todays lynch unless I see reason to believe he's scum. And from what I got from other games, that usually becomes evident quickly.

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

January 03 2013 15:10 GMT

#856

I never mentioned palmar's video thing. I am rather ill and trying to post less, something I failed at in hero. Jay stood out as scummy immediately, as did tunkeg this game, but after looking over tunkeg I changed my mind.
Other than that I truly believe the majority of scum are in the lurkers, since I am not seeing any in the active group yet.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

January 03 2013 15:11 GMT

#857

On January 04 2013 00:10 Clarity_nl wrote:
I never mentioned palmar's video thing. I am rather ill and trying to post less, something I failed at in hero. Jay stood out as scummy immediately, as did tunkeg this game, but after looking over tunkeg I changed my mind.
Other than that I truly believe the majority of scum are in the lurkers, since I am not seeing any in the active group yet.

On January 03 2013 11:27 Clarity_nl wrote:

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How did no one jump on this btw? I'm going with the logic that Palmar is too dumb to slip so it was a trap, which makes him clearly town in my book.

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

January 03 2013 15:14 GMT

#858

Ah fair enough, that didn't click in my head.

Tunkeg

Norway1235 Posts

January 03 2013 15:17 GMT

#859

So I am up to date on the thread. I think there are some obvious townies in the mix, and some players who I am more concerned about.

I am still concerned about Palmar. His policy-tunneling of WBG is getting old. He look abit to careless for being town-Palmar. He have also seemed to be avoiding confrontation with marv (at least until Palmar now called marv a bitch, which is what I would expect from a town Palmar), when marv basicly is soft pushing Palmar for scum. Lately he is starting to push people around abit, and smacking them about, this I like. I would still say I get more scumvibes from Palmar than townvibes. Enough to want to lynch him day 1? HEEELLLZ NO! If Palmar is town, him being somewhat suspicious might save him night one. He will also then start racking up scumreads and push scummies, if this doesn't happend he is scum.

debears I am more concerned about. Even though this is meta, and meta basicly from one game, the change of style is very apparent. In Hero Mini Mafia he was active and pushing town objectives from the get go. He, together with Palmar, got Adam lynched. This resulted in him getting NK night 1. This game all he have done is talk about random lynching and discussing set-up. Besides that he have lurked. I don't get this sudden change in play, from something that obviously worked great and was very pro-town in Hero, to something that is completely useless now. I am leaning scum on him for this.

Clarity_nl is someone I am also concerned about. This is also meta, and a one game meta. In Hero it was clear as day he was town, he played very pro-town (Even though not allways being right). This game he isn't putting in the same effort. He want to lynch me, then no, then he puts out a read on Palmar, that gets corrected, and he admits it was wrong. Then he goes for a policy lynch on Jackal. It is not the pro-town play he did in Hero. He is suspicious.

tube gives me the heebie-jeebies with his:

On January 03 2013 09:09 tube wrote:
hi guys gl
im posting like this again this game fuck you all

I don't see any town motivation for doing it. He needs to get on and start playing so that we can read him.

Foolishness is MIA, and should get in to thread ASAP.

Tunkeg

Norway1235 Posts

January 03 2013 15:19 GMT

#860

On January 03 2013 23:54 Adam4167 wrote:
Ill answer both of you at once. I am suspicious of dabears.

Dabears felt the need to highlight that Hopeless was not interested in a random lynch, then quoted the statistics from the TL mafia database. Dragging out that statistic accomplished exactly nothing. Was he trying to insinuate that Hopeless was mafia for choosing what would appear to be a sub-optimal tactic? Was he implying that Hopeless has faulty logic that needs to be corrected? Who knows, he wrote nothing along with it. It was just posting for the sake of filling up space.

After I questioned him on it, he replied with:

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Firstly, its not clear, as I pointed out above, I can think of at least two reasonable explanations for putting those quotes together. Secondly, if this is what he believes (and what is apparently true according to statistics), why is he not advocating a random lynch? as by his own postulation, this is the more successful route for town to take.

He has since ignored my queries on whether he finds this to be alignment indicative.

I am also suspicious of Clarity. I cant put my finger on what it is exactly, but I just don't get the same feeling from his posts that I did in Chrono or Hero when he was just blindingly town. Ill see where he goes over the course of today.

This is a great post from you. I was about to write you up as suspicious for not really contributing, when going through your filter. This is the kind of thining I expect from town-Adam.