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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 04 2013 21:22 GMT
#1807
On January 05 2013 06:20 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 06:17 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 05 2013 06:16 yamato77 wrote:
On January 05 2013 06:10 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 05 2013 06:04 Lazermonkey wrote:
Wait, where the fuck is Marv? Why is he absent NOW?


who knows, he's either pissed off or he's scum who knows he's dead.

On January 05 2013 06:04 Keirathi wrote:
On January 05 2013 06:03 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 05 2013 06:02 Keirathi wrote:
On January 05 2013 05:54 Hopeless1der wrote:
can the non-voters please drop a placeholder at least? djo,keir thrawn i think you guys are around

I don't see any reason to drop a placeholder vote. I'm not going to get modkilled, and I'm not going to vote marv. I'll vote when people quit ignoring my posts and have some discussion with me.


what do you think of Hopeless? Have you read the post I made on his play?

To be completely honest though, I don't think marv will live today.

No, I haven't gotten to it yet I guess. Link?



http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=373946&currentpage=84#1672

On January 05 2013 06:07 yamato77 wrote:
Keir I'm town. it should be obvious. you calling me scum when I vote for Marv based on reasons I have entirely of my own is dumb. I may be wrong but whatever, it's what I think and Marv is getting lynched


wut?

On January 05 2013 05:14 yamato77 wrote:
So this is exactly what I thought was going to happen when I went to sleep.

Palmar got his head out if his ass and now looks like town Palmar. Even Marv cannot deny that at this point. BC looks scummy for saying otherwise.

By extension this makes me see Marv as more likely to be scum. I don't give a shit about meta on Marv because he is a good enough player to change it, but I do care that his strongest scum read, and indeed the only person he has really tried to push a lynch on, is actually town. Palmar gave the reason that Marv changing his read from null to scum while Palmar is trolling, and this is somewhat indicative of my thoughts on the matter. It was after I pointed out that Palmar wasn't taking the game seriously like he did when I saw town Palmar that Marv decides to attack that angle of his play and vote for him. It worked, I sheeped it, because it was right. However Marv hadn't given any indication before this point that he wanted to lynch Palmar for what he was doing. He had said it was all not alignment indicative.

Not to mention that town Marv doesn't get lynched. He said soi himself before the very first game I played with him. Town Marv would never be in this position because by now people would actually have a town read on him. He hasn't done anything to give me that sense of his intentions this game which makes me all the more comfortable with switching my vote off of Palmar and onto Marv.

Sorry Marv, but if you're town you haven't done a good job proving it to me.

##Unvote
##Vote: Marvellosity


LOL you've done nothing but sheep Palmar. In fact, before Palmar made his case on marv you were sheeping marv in attacking Palmar!

Saying you've come to the conclusion by yourself on reasons you made on your own to lynch marv is incredibly misrepresentative of what actually happened in this game. It's not even a good lie.

Bugs you couldn't read me to she your life. Last game you thought I was scum after I made an unopposed Miller claim and lynched the GF day 1.

This game I'm being less of an overreactive asshole an now people want to use it against me.

Perhaps I sheeped a couple times but the lynches agreed with my own reasoning. If you don't see that in my filter you're just lying.


I was trolling you, retard.

this is exactly why Palmar's policy lynch of you made sense to me

you're a useless dick who can't play town correctly to save his life


haha the vitriol comes out after you've been accused of being scum

so funny
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 04 2013 21:23 GMT
#1811
lay off BC, I don't think he is scum.

I am 100% behind a Hopeless lynch, however.

Marv are you an alignment cop or rolecop? How many uses?
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 04 2013 21:24 GMT
#1812
oh nvm slow cop, that's an alignment cop. Interesting.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 04 2013 21:25 GMT
#1818
On January 05 2013 06:24 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 06:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 05 2013 06:20 yamato77 wrote:
On January 05 2013 06:17 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 05 2013 06:16 yamato77 wrote:
On January 05 2013 06:10 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 05 2013 06:04 Lazermonkey wrote:
Wait, where the fuck is Marv? Why is he absent NOW?


who knows, he's either pissed off or he's scum who knows he's dead.

On January 05 2013 06:04 Keirathi wrote:
On January 05 2013 06:03 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 05 2013 06:02 Keirathi wrote:
On January 05 2013 05:54 Hopeless1der wrote:
can the non-voters please drop a placeholder at least? djo,keir thrawn i think you guys are around

I don't see any reason to drop a placeholder vote. I'm not going to get modkilled, and I'm not going to vote marv. I'll vote when people quit ignoring my posts and have some discussion with me.


what do you think of Hopeless? Have you read the post I made on his play?

To be completely honest though, I don't think marv will live today.

No, I haven't gotten to it yet I guess. Link?



http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=373946&currentpage=84#1672

On January 05 2013 06:07 yamato77 wrote:
Keir I'm town. it should be obvious. you calling me scum when I vote for Marv based on reasons I have entirely of my own is dumb. I may be wrong but whatever, it's what I think and Marv is getting lynched


wut?

On January 05 2013 05:14 yamato77 wrote:
So this is exactly what I thought was going to happen when I went to sleep.

Palmar got his head out if his ass and now looks like town Palmar. Even Marv cannot deny that at this point. BC looks scummy for saying otherwise.

By extension this makes me see Marv as more likely to be scum. I don't give a shit about meta on Marv because he is a good enough player to change it, but I do care that his strongest scum read, and indeed the only person he has really tried to push a lynch on, is actually town. Palmar gave the reason that Marv changing his read from null to scum while Palmar is trolling, and this is somewhat indicative of my thoughts on the matter. It was after I pointed out that Palmar wasn't taking the game seriously like he did when I saw town Palmar that Marv decides to attack that angle of his play and vote for him. It worked, I sheeped it, because it was right. However Marv hadn't given any indication before this point that he wanted to lynch Palmar for what he was doing. He had said it was all not alignment indicative.

Not to mention that town Marv doesn't get lynched. He said soi himself before the very first game I played with him. Town Marv would never be in this position because by now people would actually have a town read on him. He hasn't done anything to give me that sense of his intentions this game which makes me all the more comfortable with switching my vote off of Palmar and onto Marv.

Sorry Marv, but if you're town you haven't done a good job proving it to me.

##Unvote
##Vote: Marvellosity


LOL you've done nothing but sheep Palmar. In fact, before Palmar made his case on marv you were sheeping marv in attacking Palmar!

Saying you've come to the conclusion by yourself on reasons you made on your own to lynch marv is incredibly misrepresentative of what actually happened in this game. It's not even a good lie.

Bugs you couldn't read me to she your life. Last game you thought I was scum after I made an unopposed Miller claim and lynched the GF day 1.

This game I'm being less of an overreactive asshole an now people want to use it against me.

Perhaps I sheeped a couple times but the lynches agreed with my own reasoning. If you don't see that in my filter you're just lying.


I was trolling you, retard.

this is exactly why Palmar's policy lynch of you made sense to me

you're a useless dick who can't play town correctly to save his life


haha the vitriol comes out after you've been accused of being scum

so funny

Nah I'm just tired of your trolly shit.

And you didn't accuse me of scum, remember?

So which is it, Bugs, are you calling me scum or not?

You're a waste of time


I haven't called you scum, no. But Keirathi did.

If I'm a waste of time then go ahead and ignore me.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 04 2013 21:26 GMT
#1824
On January 05 2013 06:25 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 06:25 HiroPro wrote:
w/e, your claim doesn't mean anything. I don't understand why you would claim.


why the fuck wouldn't i claim?

if i died without claiming, people would go "why didn't you claim?"

now you have the choice to lynch the uncounterclaimed cop (and i won't be) or someone else.


who do you want to lynch?

stop moaning and actually do something, please.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 04 2013 21:28 GMT
#1830
you actually legitimately believe BC is scum?

You think his attack on Palmar is scummy?
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 04 2013 21:29 GMT
#1835
On January 05 2013 06:27 Keirathi wrote:
bugs, your reaction to the claim is troubling.

Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 07:27 wherebugsgo wrote:
On December 02 2012 06:52 marvellosity wrote:
On December 02 2012 06:52 Blazinghand wrote:
yeah a role PM would be nice marv

I do think Ace makes a reasonable case for why Marv's claim is bad and should be punished, but as a rule lynching blue claims D1 is bad. Sorry Ace.


You are Jamie Hyneman. Your love of the scientific method makes it possible for you to find out how shit works. You've also got a cool collection of cameras and stuff, that you can totally use to track people. (Detective)


LOL

what kind of shit cop claims day 1?

Of all people marv would know that this is a terrible idea as town. So, guess what?

HE'S NOT TOWN!


Paranoia, as town, with a town amrv claiming cop.

Quite a different reaction here :o


that game made me realize that townies claim like shit all the time.

In the most recent game (yet another) morbidius claimed cop early d2 and I instantly believed him. The claim is alignment-null IMO.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 04 2013 21:34 GMT
#1854
On January 05 2013 06:29 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 06:28 wherebugsgo wrote:
you actually legitimately believe BC is scum?

You think his attack on Palmar is scummy?


of course it's scummy. It's completely disconnected from the thread. There's not a chance in hell Palmar is getting lynched, and his reasons for thinking Palmar are scum are terrible.

He hasn't pushed an alternate, credible lynch, in fact he hasn't done nothing. It's a really easy post to make because it doesn't mean anything.


he routinely pushes people for doing things he finds stupid. He's like Ace in that regard, and honestly I don't have a problem with it because it's almost like an optimistic take on the skill level of mafia players. I do it myself a lot and I can see why; from a scum position Palmar's type of play is excellent.

Speaking of Ace, in that one huge game where Ace got modkilled for the betting thing, BC did this exact same thing. BC and Palmar tunneled the shit out of each other and I felt very similarly then as I do now.

On January 05 2013 06:32 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 06:29 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 05 2013 06:27 Keirathi wrote:
bugs, your reaction to the claim is troubling.

On December 02 2012 07:27 wherebugsgo wrote:
On December 02 2012 06:52 marvellosity wrote:
On December 02 2012 06:52 Blazinghand wrote:
yeah a role PM would be nice marv

I do think Ace makes a reasonable case for why Marv's claim is bad and should be punished, but as a rule lynching blue claims D1 is bad. Sorry Ace.


You are Jamie Hyneman. Your love of the scientific method makes it possible for you to find out how shit works. You've also got a cool collection of cameras and stuff, that you can totally use to track people. (Detective)


LOL

what kind of shit cop claims day 1?

Of all people marv would know that this is a terrible idea as town. So, guess what?

HE'S NOT TOWN!


Paranoia, as town, with a town amrv claiming cop.

Quite a different reaction here :o


that game made me realize that townies claim like shit all the time.

In the most recent game (yet another) morbidius claimed cop early d2 and I instantly believed him. The claim is alignment-null IMO.

You believed morbidius because it was too stupid to be a scum claim. This claim isn't too stupid to be ascum claim, and is very similar to marv's claim in Paranoia :o


wtf?

the player you reference is the same one playing here!

Also, I think a large factor is the difference in game size. In a small game you have much more sway over town and IMO you can swing the lynch away from you without claiming as a good player. In this situation if I was in marv's shoes as a blue I would probably do the exact same thing, as there is no way you can convince 10+ people to switch off you with less than an hour left in the day without a roleclaim.

Sure, it's the same thing scum would do, which is why the claim itself is alignment-null.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 04 2013 21:51 GMT
#1889
On January 05 2013 06:49 Palmar wrote:
you're all idiots.


LOL says the guy who wants to do the suboptimal play.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 04 2013 21:52 GMT
#1897
On January 05 2013 06:52 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 06:51 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 05 2013 06:49 Palmar wrote:
you're all idiots.


LOL says the guy who wants to do the suboptimal play.


You see there's at least 2-3 games until I'm listening to anything you say ever.


haha and you said I was mad
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 04 2013 21:53 GMT
#1902
On January 05 2013 06:52 Palmar wrote:
Seriously fuck this game.

Enjoy i'm not going to do fucking shit for the rest of it. You're gullible idiots.


hahahahahahahahaha

Palmar's so butthurt
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 04 2013 21:56 GMT
#1921
Palmar routinely calls me scum, I think he has been right only once. That was over a year ago. And, to use his own words, even a broken clock is correct twice a day.

+ Show Spoiler +
I have the luxury of saying that I have been right about his alignment far more often than he has been right about mine and the only reason I mention this is to make him more mad LOL


@marv, while I find meapak scummy I don't think his lynch is happening today. Thoughts on Hopeless? Before you either die or BC does lol
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 04 2013 22:03 GMT
#1958
On January 05 2013 06:58 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 06:56 wherebugsgo wrote:
Palmar routinely calls me scum, I think he has been right only once. That was over a year ago. And, to use his own words, even a broken clock is correct twice a day.

+ Show Spoiler +
I have the luxury of saying that I have been right about his alignment far more often than he has been right about mine and the only reason I mention this is to make him more mad LOL


@marv, while I find meapak scummy I don't think his lynch is happening today. Thoughts on Hopeless? Before you either die or BC does lol


Are you proud that you're so bad at town that you're virtually unreadable?


only you have failed at calling me town, along with the baddies that sheep you.

Players like super, syllo, sandro, and even a lot of the better newer players have never had any problems with identifying me when I am town. I've only been lynched by really sheepish towns, and only three times at that.

but it's okay, you can keep your ego, I'm just interested in killing scum

wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 04 2013 22:07 GMT
#1966
BC is lying, I'm pretty sure.

Let's kill him for that.

##unvote
##vote BloodyC0bbler
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 04 2013 22:08 GMT
#1969
do I look like I give a fuck
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 04 2013 22:24 GMT
#1998
I am actually seriously confused atm.

The BC day claim thing didn't make any sense
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 04 2013 22:29 GMT
#2010
On January 05 2013 07:25 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 07:24 wherebugsgo wrote:
I am actually seriously confused atm.

The BC day claim thing didn't make any sense

Have you read the Brown One's filter?


yes, where are you going with this?

Have you read mine? Thoughts on Hopeless? Where have you been? I missed you.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 04 2013 22:29 GMT
#2012
On January 05 2013 07:29 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 07:25 Foolishness wrote:
On January 05 2013 07:24 wherebugsgo wrote:
I am actually seriously confused atm.

The BC day claim thing didn't make any sense

Have you read the Brown One's filter?


yes, where are you going with this?

Have you read mine? Thoughts on Hopeless? Where have you been? I missed you.


actually perhaps I should elaborate:

which Brown are you referring to? I've read both of their posts.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 04 2013 22:39 GMT
#2021
On January 05 2013 07:35 Foolishness wrote:
<3

I don't know if Hopeless is bored or mafia yet.

The Brown One seems out of character this game. For example:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 05:10 Chezinu wrote:
ooc:

Guys,

I would like to apologize for being one of the first to be suspicious of marv yet being the last to vote. I know its scummy. But it had to be done.

PS: You guys remember that time when town started a last minute bandwagon and hopped twice? that was awesome.

wtf is this post?


Did you read this?

On January 04 2013 23:11 Chezinu wrote:
Oh wow, I'm shock. You guys are so amazing. I put like no effort in trying to be understood by people, yet you guys still understand me. I thought it was just BC that understood me. Now, Palmar... I am also surprised that you, Palmar, are focusing on similar suspects as me. Maybe this telepathy things isn't totally nonsense... or rather the mafia are being read too easily. I was suspecting marv of being mafia earlier. Remember that 3 name list. The first two names represented the arguments between y-man and thraw. As BC correctly deciphered, I am suspicious of thraw as imaperfection correctly mentions in the log due to the Chezinu Rule. I included marv on the list because I was suspicious of him. Yet, I didn't want to be bias. As most people like to assume marv is typically town. I think I'm bias in wanting to assume he is scum. I wanted to give time for this. If you are wondering why I'm not taking in code, it is because most of my hidden thoughts were seen through. PS: How did you know I thought you were town Palmar? I don't remember typing that... but then again, I just type my thoughts randomly. I also like you Palmar cause you don't read the OP either! I haven't read it yet this game. wait... it seems the tradition of talking about the setup has died. I never participated in it, but that is usually when I spent my time reading the rules. Because talking about seemed lamed, unless of course you fake claim and act all chezinu... hehe. Your usual policy lynch surprisingly obtained alot of attention this game. It seems like I'm playing on two different levels this game. One level with fun and humor with reading the vet like you and BC. And the other... wait actually I'm not catering at all to the new players.. I wonder if they even understand me.. lol! Now, I will have to hide some more messages and see if you guys can rise to the challenge. Oh! I will play my usual redherrings along the way to make my posts appear as trash. But you should know by now which ones are real and which are not. Btw, I'm speaking English! I'm not Encrypting anything! right? Assuming there is a rule against that...hmmm I guess I'll read the rules now! I will provide a hint to the new guys about knowing which posts are real. Usually the ones that are one sentence jokes or the ones that come in pairs of threes are nonsense.. How one comes in pairs of three... that is the riddle you must solve perhaps I used the word pair just for fun and it just means three... Cause that would just imply that I'm simply bored and just posting random posts for attention so that I have someone to talk to cause its late at night and I live in darkness with little to no contact... or rather I was just bored and wanted something to talk about to simulate the mind. Perhaps it is my Chezinu way of letting everyone in the thread know that I have read the thread without actually having or wanting so say anything of importance. Its like I'm there saying I'm am here willing to troll with you or answer your questions as long as I like them. so, good luck reading me. As you guys have been very impressive this game, I'm sure you can figure it out. [image loading]


I don't know if there's anything to read into it, tbh. Enlighten me.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 04 2013 22:39 GMT
#2023
I do, however, agree with you that I found it strange when he purposely went out of character.
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