EPTOn January 06 2013 09:28 grush57 wrote:
WTF LYNCH JACKAL
WTF LYNCH JACKAL
I'm not going to vote my vote in the voting thread ^^
That's all, I'm voting for tomorrow lynch
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I'm not going to vote my vote in the voting thread ^^ That's all, I'm voting for tomorrow lynch | ||
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On January 06 2013 09:30 Toadesstern wrote: Jackal was already confirmed mafia before, or at least pretty much. Everyone knew it's either Bugs or Jackal mafia the moment Bugs claimed. There's no reason to vote Bugs instead of Jackal so might as well shoot the confirmed townie and make Jackal a 99% confirmed mafia instead of just being 98% confirmed. The problem with iamP is that I agree with you, he was pretty much confirmed town and I still think he's town. That however leaves the question why mafia didn't opt to sac that KP for a dayvig as well. But a town-vig shooting iamP makes 0 sense... why would a townie shoot him and on top of that not even claim prior to deadline. So I guess it was mafia for some reason I don't understand yet? Maybe mafia was afraid of being shot by vigs. The only downside I see for day vigs is that mafia players can be shot by town vigs before shooting themselves. | ||
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On January 06 2013 09:34 Toadesstern wrote: 1) as already mentioned twice there's a nother downside: Mafia KP is untrackable, Day-vigs are kind of trackable due to rolecops. It's something that can not be faked or avoided unlike alignmentcops (framer / GF). 2) Dayvigs shoot on d2. Mafia KP was sacced on n1. So the n1 shots would have been earlier than the dayvigs. If they were afraid of dying they would not have sacced but shot on n1. 1)Yes, I agree with that. 2)Maybe Jackal was afraid of being shot. He was pretty lurky and useless after all. Maybe the other mafia members were also afraid to be shot so they decided to shoot iamp on N1. It's the only reasonable thing I'm thinking right now. But maybe I'm missing something. | ||
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On January 06 2013 14:32 Clarity_nl wrote: Can we change the rules to "pretend Jackal AND MZ are already dead, who do you wanna lynch"? Foolishness | ||
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On January 06 2013 15:56 yamato77 wrote: I only let Marv make that joke because he and I had a conversation about it post game in YANMM I'm not wrong EVERY time. It reminds me that kush is definitively town for wanting to lynch marv  | ||
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On January 06 2013 23:50 Promethelax wrote: wat? No. Chezinu, I chose you! We can be the very best that no one ever was. Okay, I'm going to bed. I've not finished reading the thread but I've made a decent dent. I'll talk to you all tomorrow. Good luck town! @ Prox Explain me how iamp was not confirmed town at the end of D1. And even more right now that he has claimed to be shot. 1)He really looks like town iamp 2)He claimed to have masoned Palmar on D1, which strongly indicates a town iamp, regardless of Palmar's alignment 3)The only solution left is Palmar and iamp scum together. But this is way too far fetched. Keep it simple, iamp is one-shot mason, as he claimed. | ||
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On January 07 2013 04:52 iamperfection wrote: although the point is why not just day vig if thats the case unless there is some sort of restriction that we are not aware of. I already told Toad about this, but the little downside of dayvigs for the mafia is that they could get shot before getting their shot. For example, I don't think that Jackal is a dayvig today, because he was potentially a town vig target. I assume it was the same for other mafia members. | ||
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I understand your concerns, but it goes all down to a time-constraint problem from my side ^^ 1)My activity is bigger in all my other games, regardless of my alignment. I was scum in Witchcraft, Mario Mini and Looney Mini and I've been pretty active as scum in these games. Here I was in the plane coming back to Korea when the game started, and I had a lot of work to do because they didn't wait for me when I was on vacation back in France. I was also jet-lagged and super tired. Like, it's 5am here, and I'm fucking awake... And I'm not usually very active on week-ends ") 2)Yeah, you cannot read Also I didn't have so much time to take a decision at that time3)I didn't have time to push him, I was reading the thread again to see if I didn't miss anything important. I woke up in the middle of the night to follow the game, I remind you 4)Again, lack of time from my part | ||
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On January 07 2013 05:28 iamperfection wrote: seems legit plus he used two smiley's probably would have put more in if he was scum. There were 3 smileys in this post | ||
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On January 07 2013 05:30 debears wrote: Yeah, but it is filled with worthless stuff, such as this: I found this one extremely odd since he had gone through such lengths to declare kush as town based on meta all d1. Why does he need keir's input if he is an expert on it? see? and then posts like this This really doesn't look like town Djo to me I was asking Keir his view on Kush because Keir replaced Adam, which I was suspicious of, given his low participation. Also Keir is supposed to have a good use of meta. | ||
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On January 07 2013 05:29 thrawn2112 wrote: @debears I agree about djo djo does lack of time prevent you from forming scumreads? At that time, yes... I could first catch up with the thread when all the talk was about policy lynch, and the second time around the end of D1. | ||
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Why do you claim now ? Also why you don't want to claim everything ? | ||
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On January 07 2013 05:38 debears wrote: And considering you aren't gettin lynched over Jackal today, this would be a dumb as shit move by you MZ if you are a full game mason Also you are forgetting the medic that should have saved iamp ^^ | ||
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On January 07 2013 05:43 thrawn2112 wrote: kush you still lurking?how is your internet weed? what are your scumreads now that marv is gone? @ thrawn All your case can be addressed because of lack of time from my part. You know well my scum meta because you were town in both Looney Game and Witchcraft. I also hope that you have followed Mario Mini. I'm active as both alignment. But let me address your points, just give me some time, ok ? | ||
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On January 07 2013 05:46 kushm4sta wrote: Hi! Expect full reads from me later tonight. Internet weed is amazing! do you know you can buy any drug off the internet? I feel like this whole mafia game should know that. DJODREF explain your comment about iamp and the medic.? Kush, I've already explained why I think that iamp is confirmed town. iamp claimed to be shot and is still alive. Go have a look at the role list for town in the OP and tell me how that could be possible. Please also tell me what do you make of MZ claim after that ^^ | ||
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On January 07 2013 05:50 thrawn2112 wrote: the issue isn;t really your post count, it's that you've got low post count + no scuhunting Because I didn't have the time to get involved in this game yet. I should be able to have a better activity level and start scumhunting for real this week. If you don't believe my commitment, please consider that it's fucking 6am in South Korea right now and that I'm playing before going to work on my Monday morning. Give me some slack, seriously. | ||
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On January 07 2013 06:05 Foolishness wrote: Does anyone remember that Promethelax is in this game? speaking of the devil Are you not supposed to be one of the best town players on this forum ? Where were you ? | ||
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Are you still around ? I think I have an explanation why mafia tried to shoot you at night ! Look at this 1 KP -> one dayvig shooting WBG 1 KP -> one dayvig shooting Keir 0.5 KP -> MZ is mason remaining 0.5 KP rounded to 1 KP -> shoot iamp at night ! The remaining KP gets rounded, that's what we were missing ! | ||
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Which is going to be an introduction to my following case. I think that Hiro is scum. Just to give you the heads-up, I was looking for someone blending in, because I think that mafia didn't do anything special on day 1 when the lynch was going to be beween marv and BC. | ||
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On January 07 2013 06:15 thrawn2112 wrote: djo that's not scumhunting... your current scumread is mz correct? what do you make of his claim? and do you have an alternate scumread with reasons behind it, not just a lurker lynch you are ok with? I'm going to come up with it. I think Hiro and MZ are scum with Jackal. The rounded-up thing makes so much sense, that's why iamp was shot at night and not during the day. MZ was under a lot of pressure, so mafia decided to make a mason out of him and that we don't see it because of KP usage. | ||
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