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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 04 2013 03:17 GMT
#1230
I just find the whole situation bizarre. Sure the possibility existed of palmar/iamp masons (or scum, I guess) but the fact that iamp just kinda goes "yep" and they've been manhugging eachother in the thread all day I just find it weird.
Yeah my question is loaded, you specifically say you've never seen town masons be so open and not be able to produce logs, but you're saying that you've seen scum (masons) play that way?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 04 2013 03:27 GMT
#1236
debears in mafia, tunkeg:
1) had no reads
2) when he had reads they were badly reasoned
3) flung shit all game, even on townreads

4) This is the only point that sticks but I find it hard to find a perspective that makes him scum for it, his two different posts are an "obligatory oh shit I entered late better produce some stuffs" and a martyr post, his argument with bugs, while true, only really happened after tunkeg had some pressure on him.

So debears let me ask you this, you pointed out the differences between tunkeg's play this game and in hero, but how does it make him scum?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 04 2013 03:30 GMT
#1240
His town play is scummy on his own
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 04 2013 03:41 GMT
#1258
debears, how is his post in hero that you mentioned any analysis? Seriously, scum marv jumped on it immediately for being so useless
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 04 2013 09:29 GMT
#1300
On January 04 2013 15:00 yamato77 wrote:
Debears you've improved your fake scumhunt techniques but you're still not convincing.


Yamato can you expand on this? You imply debears is not actually scumhunting despite posting a pretty sizeable (wrong or not) case. Do you believe he's scum? You had not shown any opinion of debears before this post.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 04 2013 09:37 GMT
#1303
On January 04 2013 18:31 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 18:29 Clarity_nl wrote:
On January 04 2013 15:00 yamato77 wrote:
Debears you've improved your fake scumhunt techniques but you're still not convincing.


Yamato can you expand on this? You imply debears is not actually scumhunting despite posting a pretty sizeable (wrong or not) case. Do you believe he's scum? You had not shown any opinion of debears before this post.


Clarity, where is the analytical case-building guy I knew and loved from Hero, you know, the guy who was the towniest towny in town. Now you're just a useless stack of questions this game.


Can't really find the motivation between coughing all day and sleeping half the day. Yeah it's a terrible excuse but it is what it is. You'll find that the question thing was kind of my default, though, I really put an effort into hero, at least the first couple of days. Kinda fallen back into bad habits. I've also had this nasty habit this game of reading up on people for a while only to conclude they are probably town.

Anyway, you don't think his comment on debears comes out of left field?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 04 2013 09:41 GMT
#1304
Jackal is still the lynch for justice, though.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 04 2013 09:45 GMT
#1307
On January 04 2013 18:42 yamato77 wrote:
Nah I tunnel deebs all day.

Clarity do I look scummy to you? It's okay, you can say the 's' word. I give you permission.


When I say you barely mentioned him before that point, it means you barely mentioned him before that point. The only thing was you saying "shut up bitch" to him at some point.
If I were certain of your alignment I wouldn't be asking you a question like that, now would I?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 04 2013 10:05 GMT
#1310
But you didn't call it bad play, you called it "fake scumhunting". So do you think he's scum or not?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 04 2013 11:43 GMT
#1356
marv although I have my doubts when it comes to palmar's case, some of it rings true, it would still be appreciated if you addressed it.
Are you saying that you're invested as scum, or are you saying that you're not always invested as town.... orrrrr?

Palmar, I'd like you to look at Paranoia and tell me how marv plays d1 in that, compared to the filter that you linked in your case (wherein he says pregame he will try to not spam up the place as much as normal)
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 04 2013 11:52 GMT
#1365
Palmar comes across as town in these for sure.

marv, you're "suspicious" of me for asking you to address the case....? I don't even
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 04 2013 12:00 GMT
#1372
On January 04 2013 20:54 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 20:52 Clarity_nl wrote:
Palmar comes across as town in these for sure.

marv, you're "suspicious" of me for asking you to address the case....? I don't even


Because you've seen me play often enough and I don't understand what you even want me to answer from that case. What the fuck are you asking me, clarity?


No need to get pissy. You are less invested than I've seen you as town, so maybe you had a reason for that? I find your reaction weird, from the perspective of town marv doesn't palmar's case make sense to you? I mean some suspicion has come my way but I wasn't appalled or shocked or pissed because I realize it's my own fault for being lazy (yes, I'm also ill but it's not like I'm physically incapable of playing mafia)

Your reaction was: wtf palmar thinks I'm scum? IMPOSSIBLE. Which doesn't compute in my head with how you've been playing
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 04 2013 12:06 GMT
#1385
Holy shit marvs icon changed I pooped myself.

Marv, after reading the mason logs and his reads are you still comfortable with a palmar lynch?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 04 2013 12:08 GMT
#1390
On January 04 2013 21:07 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 21:06 Clarity_nl wrote:
Holy shit marvs icon changed I pooped myself.

Marv, after reading the mason logs and his reads are you still comfortable with a palmar lynch?


I just unvoted him.

Srsly dear -.-


Ehhh, yes, yes you did. Who do you want to lynch?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 04 2013 12:15 GMT
#1399
Palmar do you think a scum marv is likely to exclaim that he has been invested even if his filter doesn't reflect it?
Makes much more sense from a townie perspective to me.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 04 2013 12:23 GMT
#1411
On January 04 2013 21:18 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 21:15 Clarity_nl wrote:
Palmar do you think a scum marv is likely to exclaim that he has been invested even if his filter doesn't reflect it?
Makes much more sense from a townie perspective to me.


No idea. But I think it's pretty telling that he's been so concerned with basically what constitutes as trolling from me that it has taken up his entire attention of the game it seems.

I don't know, kinda would expect strong town players to find motivation to just look elsewhere when some random dude is trolling. I could just vote for BC but because I'm actually town I actually spent time looking at everyone in the game, not just some random dude who kinda looks useless and nothing else.


I realize your answer was "no idea" but you didn't answer my question.

Let me put it this way:
-If marv is scum and he's not invested he would (probably) have said he wasn't invested, and then explain why (in a lie), because he's aware his filter looks like he's not
-If marv is scum and he's invested then his filter would've shown him as invested (example: hero mini)
-If marv is town and he's not invested then he would say so with his reasons
-If marv is town and he's invested he would say he was even if his filter didn't reflect it

Does that make sense?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 04 2013 12:29 GMT
#1413
I'm saying it's weird for a scum marv who isn't invested to exclaim that he is, because a scum marv who isn't invested knows his filter will show him as not invested.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 04 2013 12:49 GMT
#1418
marv I've never been able to read you well day 1, sue me. If you don't want my help that's fine too.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 04 2013 12:58 GMT
#1424
Palmar you're aware we can see you update your reads live, right? Anyway I'll be back in 5-6 hours.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 04 2013 12:59 GMT
#1426
You never truly do, no.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
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