EPTI mean I was fine with him up until this page but since he's so adamant that he's scum then let's just help him to exit the game at the earliest opportunity.
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Meapak_Ziphh
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I mean I was fine with him up until this page but since he's so adamant that he's scum then let's just help him to exit the game at the earliest opportunity. | ||
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On January 04 2013 10:38 supersoft wrote: This second sentence doesnt say you now think he's scum right? Yeah. It looks like he's trying a "hide in plain sight" sort of thing. I thought in the beginning he was doing his usual trolling to get discussion started (there's actually a game where he describes exactly what he does as town I just forget which one). Basically it goes something along the lines of propose something so stupid it's just begging for people to jump on it for free town cred and then tear the ones apart who use that as a crutch to look protown. That's what I assumed he was trying here but now I'm thinking he's just acting as scummy as possible on the assumption that everyone will just assume he's trolling and ignore him. There is zero reason for town to do that so occam's razor says if Palmar says he's scum, he's scum. | ||
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On January 04 2013 10:48 supersoft wrote: blargh. Palmar is always an easy d1 target. I don't remember any game, where Palmar wasn't accused d1.. You know that, wbg. He may have overdone the trolling in the last 3-5 hours. + ppl that accuse him seem to be kind of suspicious to me: Marv is focusing Palmar since the beginning and randomly agreeing on every other suspect (his list some pages ago) MZ now doesnt even think that Palmar is scum. Toad isn't really suspicious, I think it's just his paranoid townplay... i don't remember whether he does that as scum, too. I got to think about what marv just posted though... It's out of order, I started off thinking Palmar was town, now I don't. | ||
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On January 04 2013 10:48 supersoft wrote: blargh. Palmar is always an easy d1 target. I don't remember any game, where Palmar wasn't accused d1.. You know that, wbg. He may have overdone the trolling in the last 3-5 hours. + ppl that accuse him seem to be kind of suspicious to me: Marv is focusing Palmar since the beginning and randomly agreeing on every other suspect (his list some pages ago) MZ now doesnt even think that Palmar is scum. Toad isn't really suspicious, I think it's just his paranoid townplay... i don't remember whether he does that as scum, too. I got to think about what marv just posted though... It's out of order, I started off thinking Palmar was town, now I don't. | ||
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Meaning whatever they say is irrelevant and won't tell us anything about either players alignment. | ||
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On January 04 2013 17:11 yamato77 wrote: Debears give me a read I can believe you actually have. What makes you not believe the tunkeg case? Debears has been the most vocal for his lynch. | ||
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On January 04 2013 17:35 yamato77 wrote: Tunkeg is playing anti town but his actual alignment is yet to be revealed. Apparently he's a dumbass all the time. CC I can almost get behind but I'm not sure how much seriously I take the arguments for his lynch. He's been useless, sure, but he hasn't exactly done so in a scummy way. wait so playing anti town doesn't reveal his alignment or at least in anyway give you reason to question him? Damn that's a new one, I've only been gone for like 6 months and the meta has changed that much? | ||
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On January 04 2013 19:08 wherebugsgo wrote: cool, you're dying then. Listen guys, Palmar has no logs. He's scum. I'm down with this happening. A huge focus in the beginning should be about demonstrating your innocence and Palmar is flat out not doing that, if he wants to trollishly call himself scum I'd have let him get away with that assuming that he was planning on making something useful out of the discussion he started with his "lynch wbg" nonsense. Since he's declined to do that and instead continued to troll I'm ready to get rid of him. | ||
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On January 04 2013 19:10 yamato77 wrote: You convincing me Marv is scum would definitely aid in my thinking you are town. Give me your best shot. Oh I wholeheartedly agree! I would absolutely love to see a case on marv since he's been worthless this game. Even better, I'd love to see a case finally coming from Palmar. Hell if it's actually any good then maybe we give him another day. | ||
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Oh and fyi you have called me bad/terrible/awful/stupid/some other adjective that implies idiocy in almost every game I've played with you. idk what game it was from but my personal favorite was "oh that's MZ, I wondered who was trying to break the world record for retard." | ||
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If I'm motivated tomorrow I'll try to find all the times you've called me bad, it would make a lengthy list. In the meantime I'm going to bed since its 4am Also your supersoft and VE reads are bad. kthnxbai | ||
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On January 05 2013 17:25 supersoft wrote: So who do you think is scum? It's pretty quiet in here right now, so we can talk a little i guess. probably hopeless. I'd also be happy to see Marv dead since I still feel Palmar's case was pretty good. Honestly here's the problem supersoft, there are couple people who I'm pretty sure are town because I've just seen them play this way many times before. But knowing who townies are isn't really relevant and only helps narrow down the number of suspects. The thread environment has been godawful so far for scum hunting, I could probably write a semi decent case on 3/4 of the players in this game (myself included). Obviously not everyone is scum but its gonna take some time for me to begin to pick apart the motivations behind all the spam. If you want me to explain exactly how I scum hunt that's fine and I will, but you're gonna have to believe me when I say I have no rock solid reads. | ||
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On January 05 2013 17:57 supersoft wrote: meapak i really get the feeling that you don't follow the game and you just copy the opinion of some vets. uhh. okay whatever. I guess you got one day to increase your play dramatically... This is accurate to a degree, I've been following the game, have read every post, and have even read some filters, but I haven't been able to really make sense of it yet. I actually appreciate you giving me a day, I actually wasn't in bang bang and you're usually one of the first people (along with palmar) who calls me stupid at any given point. I will present a case and push it tomorrow. No, I won't tunnel this case but I will at least bring something new to the table. | ||
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Anyway I'm gonna present a case tomorrow. Who it'll be I don't know because like I said earlier, I don't have very strong reads this game. I ask that the next person who says "Yeah I'd be down to kill MZ" actually read my filter and not sheep marv's stale case. My filter's really short, it shouldn't be that hard. Just ask yourself, am I actually pushing a scum agenda? Am I actively disrupting the town? Am I shitting up the thread? Am I avoiding people? I would guess probably 75% of the people calling for my lynch probably haven't read my filter. | ||
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On January 06 2013 04:43 Keirathi wrote: I have definitely read your filter. So let me ask you a question. With BC and marv both being town, what the fuck kind of agenda would scum have needed to push? They were free to sit back and do whatever. Which is what a lot of your filter feels like. You didn't really care if Palmar was getting lynched, or marv, or who. You just went along with the major bandwagons. I thought Palmar was town for the beginning and then changed my mind when I thought he was gonna try and hide in plain sight. But he pulled his shit together which meant I wasn't gonna lynch him. Especially given Marv's flip, I'm still a little uncertain but at this point I'm pretty sure he's town. As for Marv, I'm really glad he's dead. He's literally the reason why town hasn't done shit. His spamming and dickishness was getting us nowhere and making the thread a nightmare to read. When I find a target who I'm sure is scum then I'll push them hard. But in d1, with the amount of spam in the thread and the fact that I didn't have a stronger read than Palmar's case on marv, I was willing to go along. Now had I been active when the whole BC bullshit got started I'd have certainly come out strongly against that but that's all after the fact now and I can't use that to show my innocence. | ||
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The person I'm currently masoned to is proving less than useful (maybe afk) I really wish they would get on IRC with me because I'm starting to become really suspicious due to their complete lack of communication or presence in the thread. In the meantime I'll vote Jackal. Everything else is waiting for the person to get back to me. It'd be foolish to lynch me today. | ||
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I still want to talk to this person in peace without having to publicly make statements about them. I'll post who at the beginning of the night since that's when my mason with them ends. | ||
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