EPTWhy can't we all be town
Why can't the scum drop their weapons and come together and we'll all sing kumbayah together in the streets
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[UoN]Sentinel
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Why can't we all be town Why can't the scum drop their weapons and come together and we'll all sing kumbayah together in the streets | ||
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On January 03 2013 22:25 Lazermonkey wrote: Anyone else noticed that Sentinel have ONLY been trolling and useless this far? And have you been better? What have you done? Enlighten me. I am not posting anything of great mass or importance. This is more obligatory than anything now that I think of it. It is currently 22:06 where I am. I am going to sleep and will wake up at 04:00 the next morning. I will then read the filters of several players and will not stop until I have substantial evidences to point two of my fingers, but perfereably more, at people who I am suspicious of. It'll be like the metal horns but with more killing. Basically I'm not lurking anymore. I have these people in my head already and in exactly eight hours or less I will report my findings. I wish you all a pleasant night and to keep the vitriol to acceptable levels. | ||
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The other thing is tunnel Jackal. I don't know where you're going with this but it's not working. It's working less than the immigrant worker I hired to fix my deck. Jackal was lurking and given the suspicion... proceeded to lurk! Very effective tunneling. On January 04 2013 05:17 Clarity_nl wrote: Seriously though we should lynch this jackal guy. I randomly voted him out of a pool of lurkers, but like a good lil townie I stuck to it and his appearance did not impress. Two posts, both of them brief, and responding to thinks that happened on that current page. No commentary on anything, just pops in to make a joke and "agree" with someone that something is scummy. Lynch the scum. That is point two. Now here is the reason I don't like his filter at all - is because he doesn't back things up at all. I see no concrete reads, or concrete anything other than these two cases. No lengthy discussions. Ima go back to Hero Mini and see how Clarity did over there for more information. Until then I will give you the benefit of the doubt since being sick sucks. Tunkeg, do you ever get bored of your own whiny voice, explaining how you're so amazing and the only mistakes you've ever had were because you weren't trying. Hero wasn't "half the scumteam tunneling you for the entire game" it was simply "the scumteam going for the easy target", because that's what you are. You never pinned marv as scum, even as you were getting lynched by him you were just calling him arrogant and smug and all this other shit. Stop bitching, fuck. Granted this made me laugh. Next victim. On January 04 2013 10:39 wherebugsgo wrote: I agree with marv. If you look at when Palmar rolls scum, he does this all the time. Towns leave him alone when he trolls so hard because "no scum would draw attention to themselves like that!" they conveniently look past the disruption to try and rationalize Palmar's play. Palmar is really destructive as scum because he can get away with it. This is particularly why he's good at playing third party. No scum will ever shoot a troll, and town won't lynch such a vocal vet. So, let's kill him. ##vote Palmar I could honestly go for this if he doesn't produce the logs out of his ass before the night. I think the risk of scum knowing Palmar's thoughts is justified compared to being viewed as town in our eyes. It would do much more than simply asking him to be town as yamato suggested. I'm voting for Palmar until he brings out those logs. | ||
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For now, unvoting. | ||
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Ima go read Adam's filter because for some reason he has been flying under my radar. Then I will have to go back to class because astronomy is my only free period | ||
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BC on the other hand I have a very hard time imagining him to be town. He's had a conversation about Chez with yamato, and made one post about how despite getting his shit together, Palmar is apparently irredeemable. Then some whining à la Tunkeg. Except Tunkeg is just the embodiment of frustration. Convince me marv is mafia, or at least summarize for me pretty please. I've been spaced the whole day and might have missed a lot in the thread since my clarity/Palmar post. | ||
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My suspicions of Mr. BC turned out to be mistaken but that doesn't redeem him in any way. His scumlist is just everyone who tunneled him and 6 of the first 7 people to vote for him. I'm still in the standing that Palmar is town. Here is what I remember about marv. I've been gone a long time but I definitely remember him as scum in one of my last games before I left. If I remember the name of the mafia I will link to it. But the point is that he is charismatic. 86 winrate someone said? In that game he managed to pretend he was me (I was the last remaining blue) and pretty much sway the game in his favor. Marv is a valuable asset as town but he is hypercritical to a scum victory (unless we have an elite scumteam where everyone is flawless). We could get rid of him just to eliminate this chance. | ||
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Disregard everything I said about marv gaise. | ||
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Let's start with the blatantly obvious - myself implying I'm town. Well of course. Do you want me to be implying I'm scum or something? Is Palmar scum because he labels himself as "supertown" on his spreadsheet? I mean you have the full right to be pissed off at it but it doesn't mean I'm suddenly a red desperately trying to cover my ass. So now it looks like I have no excuse but to talk. First let me explain you all as many reasons as I can why Clarity is wrong. Then I'll try to be a good little towny to calm him down. I'll start by trying to be respectful and involved for the rest of this post. I don't want to start a shitstorm to distract the other townies. I don't think Clarity is scum for any of this, just wrong. Let's start with his big post on me. It's on page 4 of his filter, I'm not going to quote/head the whole thing. Sue me. But more telling than that is that Sentinel betrays his own priorities, namely that while reading through the thread the first thing he looks for is if anyone is suspicious of him. Town look for scum, and if they see a case on themselves then they might react, they don't react to the fact that there is no case on them. I'd actually like to say that there's at least one person suspicious of me D1 in about 80% of the mafia games I've participated in. This is again due to the "lazy townie" mentality you and lazer were talking about. This is far from the first time I've made such complaints and it will be far from the last. Here are some highlights: TL Mafia LIII (Area) (role: jailkeeper) On April 22 2012 09:53 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: So... can we have a little tidbit of it? Is my lurking in there, Mr. Wup? Because I'm a regular lurker. Sometimes I have to sleep and eat and go places where I can't exactly contribute to mafia games. This is especially apparent when there are 30 freakin' players and it's a pain in the ass to have to catch up all the time. What about the other inactives? What specifically irks you about my lurking that I have to be voted off? TL Mafia LII (JubJub) (role: vanilla) On March 16 2012 05:05 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Because I have school and swim practice. I like to think it's not lazy townie but busy townie. Between school, swimming and work I don't have time to constantly be engaged in the thread which means I'm accountable for reading 22 pages of text whenever and wherever I am. While we're on the topic of precedence I'd like to add two things to my meta resume: 1. That last post I was answering a question about my unreliability with analyses 2. This isn't the first time I self-voted (and it isn't the last  )Another one from JubJub - On March 13 2012 10:28 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: God... it's late and I don't want to think right now... ##Vote: [UoN]Sentinel until I find a better reason. That's enough of me quoting myself. So here's justification that I do all this stuff as town, your choice to believe just how legitimate the reasons are. My self-votes are for a multitude of reasons but usually I'll do it either because I want to vote for someone but I haven't found a target, or I can't think of anything so I'll self-vote to avoid a modkill. The quoted bit was strictly for the former reason, this game it was the former and partially the latter. Next question: He ends it all with saying he'll go read one of my older games and that he'll "give me the benefit of the doubt because I might be sick" Wait. He doesn't think I'm scum? He also never ends up commenting on my earlier game, which would have been different from this game, so I am going with: He lied My "promised grand entrance" as you called it was a flop. I am not going to debate that. I can make all sorts of excuses but the more needless excuses I make the less force the rest of my argument has. In fact, I chucked in Palmar because his read was so apparent and I needed to point my second finger at someone before that deadline. I will not debate any of that. A little jab at my wording there but everyone does that. Moving on. I am.... so confused right now..... so instead of trying to figure out what's going on I guess I'll go...... READ ADAM YEAAHHHHH {side-by-side} I feel that marv town is plausible. I haven't really read the thread. Please convince me that marv is scum. This goes back to the first section (or second if you count the intro) - I don't always deliver, for better or for worse. You'll just have to take my word for it that these are repeated honest mistakes; I can't really prove the absence of any posts. And then he reiterates I'm scum. Wrongfully. Moving on to my things. First off I'm glad that marvellosity is dead, blue or not. His loss is my gain. Marvellosity has a 17-page filter and was modkilled on Page 119. If my math is right, he is responsible for approximately 1/7 of the posts in this thread. Now my reading will be 14% more effective. Also, I thought Tunkeg was town because he was the same pompous ass I played with in AoE mafia. Being replaced by Promethelax, however, casts a new light. His "effective" filter is virtually all on Page 2 and only on Page 2. On January 05 2013 05:40 Promethelax wrote: Yeah, kier this is dumb. Look at clarity. He doesn't look like town clarity. Yamato can stupid as town. Clarity screams townie usually, right now nit so much. We have approx. 3 posts talking about why Clarity is scum. This is the most informative one. Makes my case on Clarity seem like a novel. A slight defense of yamato's consistent derping (+1). Then, like my neighbor, he chooses the candidate he's voting for based on a considerable amount of evidence: On January 05 2013 06:40 Promethelax wrote: Voting bc. Fuck lynching Marv d1 after he claimed cop. And then tells people to consolidate the wagon. Of all his grievances in the game, this is the one that sets off my scumdar. This is where I read it four times and say "Wait what?" You post zero evidence and then proceed to support others posting zero evidence. Then some passive agressivism towards marvellosity, god rest his soul. Also I'm confused about him asking both candidates for D1 lynch to justify their common hatred against MZ. And then both flip blue. Wut Anyways, I'd like to round out this post by saying Promethelax is most certainly a scum I shall vote for him at my earliest convenience. this post was brought to you by lithium carbonate | ||
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On January 06 2013 04:46 Clarity_nl wrote: Which is basically a summarization of marv's case and the reason he would be a good lynch. I'm continuing on my streak of asking this question to people! Keir: What do you think of Sentinel and my case on him? I refreshed the thread every 20 minutes or so and took a dinner break. If my tone unnaturally changed throughout that post, this is why. | ||
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##Vote: Promethelax Also the fact that Tunkeg instigated the case onto himself, although with the replacement he's leaning red in retrospect to me as well | ||
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Although if we were close to outing any of them then they just hat themselves. I think lynch counts as a successful detonation, it just says "dies" there. Kurumi please explain the conditions for a bomb to go off | ||
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I think DV shouldn't be too big of an issue balance-wise. All they are doing is moving up the night to a time of their choosing. | ||
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