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On January 10 2013 06:42 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2013 06:39 Lazermonkey wrote:
owfuck, I read you as kush. I'm sorry : (. Well, while we are at it, what's your opinion about CC? mostly same as kush's o.0 basically... I witnessed Witchcraft Mafia. Everyone considering a CC lynch REALLY needs to go read that game. Don't even look at his/anyone else's alignment before you read his filter.
I disagree, at least CC was really emotionally involved in that game. Did you forget how much he was flaming with Eywa ?
Also he had a very decent IRL excuse at that time. It's a different Cheese from WitchCraft.
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On January 10 2013 06:42 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2013 06:39 Lazermonkey wrote:
owfuck, I read you as kush. I'm sorry : (. Well, while we are at it, what's your opinion about CC? mostly same as kush's o.0 basically... I witnessed Witchcraft Mafia. Everyone considering a CC lynch REALLY needs to go read that game. Don't even look at his/anyone else's alignment before you read his filter. Yhea, but the games are diferent arenät they? he posted shit loads of stuff in that game so he is obviously not fitting in his town meta at all(which doesn't say too to much because he doesn't actually fit his scum meta either IIRC, which makes the meta a null). And I don't buy the argument: ''he was bad in witchcraft and town, thus every time he is bad, he is scum.'' That would just be silly. Actually it would be double silly, because you could NEVER lynch CC implying that logic. Can you tell me ONE reason for him to play like he does as town. And I'm not talking about not contributing but rather the fact that he doesn't care about the game YET he does post 1 post every cycle in order not to get modkilled.
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On January 10 2013 06:46 kushm4sta wrote:
When CC is town he is comfortable in the thread. Last game I was in with him, he kept saying "If this guy flips green im scum im definitely scum." But he was town. As town he will pretty much say anything.
As scum CC is a lot more careful and a lot more clean. His average post length becomes longer by magnitudes.
Explain from a CC townie perspective: what I see in CC is someone who is inactive. Inactivity is a trait of both alignments.
Read my post. Inactivty isn't the reason I'm voting him.
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On January 10 2013 06:49 Lazermonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2013 06:42 thrawn2112 wrote:On January 10 2013 06:39 Lazermonkey wrote:
owfuck, I read you as kush. I'm sorry : (. Well, while we are at it, what's your opinion about CC? mostly same as kush's o.0 basically... I witnessed Witchcraft Mafia. Everyone considering a CC lynch REALLY needs to go read that game. Don't even look at his/anyone else's alignment before you read his filter. Yhea, but the games are diferent arenät they? he posted shit loads of stuff in that game so he is obviously not fitting in his town meta at all(which doesn't say too to much because he doesn't actually fit his scum meta either IIRC, which makes the meta a null). And I don't buy the argument: ''he was bad in witchcraft and town, thus every time he is bad, he is scum.'' That would just be silly. Actually it would be double silly, because you could NEVER lynch CC implying that logic. Can you tell me ONE reason for him to play like he does as town. And I'm not talking about not contributing but rather the fact that he doesn't care about the game YET he does post 1 post every cycle in order not to get modkilled.
Okay I'm sold. This has been said before, but yeah it's only really sunk in now. Let's off Cheese. Players also fitting this description: froggynoddy, Sentinel and to a lesser degree, Foolishness.
##Unvote
##Vote: Mr.Cheesecake
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On January 10 2013 06:49 Lazermonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2013 06:42 thrawn2112 wrote:On January 10 2013 06:39 Lazermonkey wrote:
owfuck, I read you as kush. I'm sorry : (. Well, while we are at it, what's your opinion about CC? mostly same as kush's o.0 basically... I witnessed Witchcraft Mafia. Everyone considering a CC lynch REALLY needs to go read that game. Don't even look at his/anyone else's alignment before you read his filter. Yhea, but the games are diferent arenät they? he posted shit loads of stuff in that game so he is obviously not fitting in his town meta at all(which doesn't say too to much because he doesn't actually fit his scum meta either IIRC, which makes the meta a null). And I don't buy the argument: ''he was bad in witchcraft and town, thus every time he is bad, he is scum.'' That would just be silly. Actually it would be double silly, because you could NEVER lynch CC implying that logic. Can you tell me ONE reason for him to play like he does as town. And I'm not talking about not contributing but rather the fact that he doesn't care about the game YET he does post 1 post every cycle in order not to get modkilled.
it's about his "I'm not gonna do my part because I don't care or am too lazy to provide rational analysis and idc who calls me out for it" attitude
and no I can't think of a good reason for why he'd do it as town but that doesn't mean he cant be doing it. whatever reasons might exist are obviously dumb
did you actually read witchcraft? please do it, and tell me what you imagine his emotional state during that game to be
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On January 10 2013 06:46 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2013 06:40 thrawn2112 wrote:On January 10 2013 06:37 Djodref wrote:On January 10 2013 06:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
Who will speak for Promethelax?
Who I ask?! Actually I think it's more a town tell that nobody is speaking for him. It means it's less likely than he has scumbuddies. On the opposite, the thing about CC is that his lynch is not as easy as it should be. There is some diversion, some resistance. But at the same time, he is a very easy bus target for his team if he is scum. What are you trying to say about CC lynch? I don't get any kind of read from that I think that CC lynch is also a scum lynch because it's not an easy lynch, not as easy as it should be given his contributions. I think that both debears and CC are scum. But we cannot trust anyone voting CC because I think it would be very easy for some member of the scumteam to bus him if he is scum. I'm totally fine lynching CC or debears today. What about you ? Who would you like to lynch at the exception of Prome and me ?
currently warming back up to the idea of lazer, but you two are still in the lead
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whatever, idc. i'm not gonna try too hard to save him but his lynch seems lazy/scummy.
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On January 10 2013 07:01 thrawn2112 wrote:
whatever, idc. i'm not gonna try too hard to save him but his lynch seems lazy/scummy.
How about pushing your candidates then ?
Like, shouldn't you making a case against Prome now ?
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Is anyone else opposed to a Cheesecake lynch? Like, to the point where they'd like to speak on his behalf?
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Some people request a replacement when they are inactive. Some got modkilled. Some post the absolute minimum so that they don't get modkilled or replaced.
That last one is how i would play if I were super busy or didn't give a shit.
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lol djo. explain how i'm not pushing my candidates? nobody is willing to talk to me about you being scum.
and i don't see what your fixation on me specifically "building a case" on prom is. is there some magic case per cycle quota i'm not reaching?
how do you feeel about my prom push? would you vote him?
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I am thrawn, what else do you have besides "Djo doesn't scumhunt ever"? I've told you that I think he's townie, that doesn't mean I'm not willing to discuss him with you.
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On January 10 2013 07:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
I am thrawn, what else do you have besides "Djo doesn't scumhunt ever"? I've told you that I think he's townie, that doesn't mean I'm not willing to discuss him with you.
there's a marked difference between how he's playing now and how he was playing at the time I posted the case. you quoted my "tldr" version of it but did you read the case?
of course he'd try to correct the specific thing I called out.
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Look here, I'll post the exact post that makes me think Djo is town. It's serious too.
On January 09 2013 07:40 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2013 07:31 Kurumi wrote:On January 09 2013 07:28 VisceraEyes wrote:On January 09 2013 07:26 Kurumi wrote:On January 09 2013 07:23 VisceraEyes wrote:
What are you talking about?
The KP formula? It's explicit in the OP
Scum# / 2 rounded up
That means that with 5 members, scum get
5/2=2.5=3 KP to play with during N2.
Not 2.5 KP. That insinuates that scum lost .5 KP during N2, when the OP explicitly states otherwise. Wrong. Scum KP is rounded up after using roles. I didn't say anything about using roles. I stated the rule I read in the OP. Is that rule incorrect?
How many KP did scum have during N2 before any roles were used? This is well within your ability to answer without giving anything away. 2.5KP. Here is the way I see it. Grush vigged Hopeless and died from it. I'm quite confident on this one. I don't see why mafia would kill grush or Hopeless. That would be pretty stupid. Also, please remember this ^^ Show nested quote +On January 05 2013 06:29 grush57 wrote:On January 05 2013 06:17 Hopeless1der wrote:On January 05 2013 06:15 grush57 wrote:
Okay I just read the thread.. I'm going to go throw a vote on Hopeless.
##Vote: Hopeless1der Comment on Palmar, Marv or BC in the meantime Palmar- He was trolling and now he is being super op scumhunter. Now he is a good player so is that necissarily town?Idk, I don't think marv is scum but palmar has been wrong every time I played with him so far. Marv- He just claimed cop, and I don't think eh should be lynched on D1. BC- He is pretty inactive but he sais he will be back soon. He is a mega vet so I don't think we should lynch him while there are other MUCH MORE SCUMNMY LURKERS LIKE YOU HOPESS Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless.Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless.[ b]Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless.[/b] Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless.ALSO, STARSENSES Grush really wanted Hopeless dead. Now, I don't know what do to with Chez being killed. But I think it's more likely to be a mafia shot if nobody claims it. On top of that, I don't think that another vigilante is possible. I really want the killer of Chez to claim, if he is town. So, we just have to see how much KP mafia used in dayvig (at the end of the day) to see if MZ is scum mason or not. So we don't lynch MZ today.
The thread was primed for an MZ lynch today. I was READY to pull the trigger on MZ myself...yet Djo comes in and talks me down using logic.
What motivation would scum have to do that?
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On January 10 2013 06:55 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2013 06:49 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 10 2013 06:42 thrawn2112 wrote:On January 10 2013 06:39 Lazermonkey wrote:
owfuck, I read you as kush. I'm sorry : (. Well, while we are at it, what's your opinion about CC? mostly same as kush's o.0 basically... I witnessed Witchcraft Mafia. Everyone considering a CC lynch REALLY needs to go read that game. Don't even look at his/anyone else's alignment before you read his filter. Yhea, but the games are diferent arenät they? he posted shit loads of stuff in that game so he is obviously not fitting in his town meta at all(which doesn't say too to much because he doesn't actually fit his scum meta either IIRC, which makes the meta a null). And I don't buy the argument: ''he was bad in witchcraft and town, thus every time he is bad, he is scum.'' That would just be silly. Actually it would be double silly, because you could NEVER lynch CC implying that logic. Can you tell me ONE reason for him to play like he does as town. And I'm not talking about not contributing but rather the fact that he doesn't care about the game YET he does post 1 post every cycle in order not to get modkilled. it's about his "I'm not gonna do my part because I don't care or am too lazy to provide rational analysis and idc who calls me out for it" attitude and no I can't think of a good reason for why he'd do it as town but that doesn't mean he cant be doing it. whatever reasons might exist are obviously dumb did you actually read witchcraft? please do it, and tell me what you imagine his emotional state during that game to be Like I said, His attitude is actually not the reason I am voting him.
I will not read witchcraft, it's a waste of time. My impression is that he was a posty town who played quite bad and appeared to be scum. So as far as I am concerned, his meta is not relevant in this situation at all.
Also, if you cannot see a reason for him to do it as town you should either try to find it or vote him. Period.
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On January 10 2013 07:08 thrawn2112 wrote:
lol djo. explain how i'm not pushing my candidates? nobody is willing to talk to me about you being scum.
and i don't see what your fixation on me specifically "building a case" on prom is. is there some magic case per cycle quota i'm not reaching?
how do you feeel about my prom push? would you vote him?
I wouldn't vote prom, and for me, you have failed to show how his actions were serving mafia interest.
The things you are talking about are the tone of his post and how he interacts with people in this game. Basically, you want to lynch Prome according to a meta argument only. I think it's a poor reason to lynch someone, especially when the guy in question is part of the few people still participating actively in this game, and looking emotionally involved.
Also, Prome is wanting to lynch debears with me, and I think he was the first to raise serious concerns regarding him.
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idk... i dont get what point you're trying to make. do scum always need scum motivation to do things? if it's something that makes them seem like town, and it wouldn't hurt them too badly, why wouldn't they "help out" the thread every now and then? do you really think mz was the the only town person (and therefore potential mislynch) among the list of whoever the thread was considering for lynching at that time?
like your agrument seems extremely similar to "a scum wouldn't give town reads on a townie"
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On January 10 2013 07:07 kushm4sta wrote:
Some people request a replacement when they are inactive. Some got modkilled. Some post the absolute minimum so that they don't get modkilled or replaced.
That last one is how i would play if I were super busy or didn't give a shit. If you show me ONE game where a town player who wasn't a complete noob did this and I will reconsider my read on CC. One game.
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On January 10 2013 07:20 Lazermonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2013 06:55 thrawn2112 wrote:On January 10 2013 06:49 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 10 2013 06:42 thrawn2112 wrote:On January 10 2013 06:39 Lazermonkey wrote:
owfuck, I read you as kush. I'm sorry : (. Well, while we are at it, what's your opinion about CC? mostly same as kush's o.0 basically... I witnessed Witchcraft Mafia. Everyone considering a CC lynch REALLY needs to go read that game. Don't even look at his/anyone else's alignment before you read his filter. Yhea, but the games are diferent arenät they? he posted shit loads of stuff in that game so he is obviously not fitting in his town meta at all(which doesn't say too to much because he doesn't actually fit his scum meta either IIRC, which makes the meta a null). And I don't buy the argument: ''he was bad in witchcraft and town, thus every time he is bad, he is scum.'' That would just be silly. Actually it would be double silly, because you could NEVER lynch CC implying that logic. Can you tell me ONE reason for him to play like he does as town. And I'm not talking about not contributing but rather the fact that he doesn't care about the game YET he does post 1 post every cycle in order not to get modkilled. it's about his "I'm not gonna do my part because I don't care or am too lazy to provide rational analysis and idc who calls me out for it" attitude and no I can't think of a good reason for why he'd do it as town but that doesn't mean he cant be doing it. whatever reasons might exist are obviously dumb did you actually read witchcraft? please do it, and tell me what you imagine his emotional state during that game to be Like I said, His attitude is actually not the reason I am voting him. I will not read witchcraft, it's a waste of time. My impression is that he was a posty town who played quite bad and appeared to be scum. So as far as I am concerned, his meta is not relevant in this situation at all. Also, if you cannot see a reason for him to do it as town you should either try to find it or vote him. Period.
ffs monkey you are being so anti town with how you're trying to push this on me.
monkey asks for any small reason that cc might be town
thrawn says "go read witchcraft!"
lazer says "i won't read witchcraft!"
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Like I said, I'm not going to fight his lynch too much because if I had to policy lynch someone right now it'd be him. but there are people who have substance to their filter that I think makes them worth lynching, which is way better than lynching someone because you cant find good reasons not to lynch them
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On January 10 2013 07:21 thrawn2112 wrote:
idk... i dont get what point you're trying to make. do scum always need scum motivation to do things? if it's something that makes them seem like town, and it wouldn't hurt them too badly, why wouldn't they "help out" the thread every now and then? do you really think mz was the the only town person (and therefore potential mislynch) among the list of whoever the thread was considering for lynching at that time?
like your agrument seems extremely similar to "a scum wouldn't give town reads on a townie" ...
If a scum player are placing a town read on someone, surely there is a reason for it? Like they want to appear town prehaps? You are using the most backward and crazy logic ever, which further confirms the fact that you are town but I ask you to OPEN your eyes and realise that CC is scum. Vote him. Let him flip scum. Enjoy!
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