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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 05 2013 13:18 GMT
#2245
don't you see how important it is for this game, Lazer, to get my alignment right? Why do you refuse to think for yourself? Palmar's case was god-damn awful, misusing meta in a terrible, terrible way.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 05 2013 13:19 GMT
#2248
On January 05 2013 22:18 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 22:15 marvellosity wrote:
On January 05 2013 22:14 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 05 2013 22:12 marvellosity wrote:
On January 05 2013 22:10 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 05 2013 22:08 marvellosity wrote:
Lazer, you need to give a really good answer on why I am more suspicious than MZ, given our relative contributions this game. My case on MZ alone is already more contributions than MZ.

Please do so about now.
Read Palmars filter. You shall find the answer!


no, that's not good enough.

YOU need to give a really good reason why I am more suspicious than MZ this game.

Look at our relative contributions, look at our relative investment.

Stop jerking your puny little dick in Palmar's direction because you're too fucking pathetic to think for yourself.
I don't see how it's a problem. Another thing that makes me doubt you is the fact that already 2 DTs have flipped, one was day slow DT...


It's a problem because when morons like you who refuse to think themselves sheep someone and they're wrong, that means all of a sudden a third of town is voting for someone because they can't utilise their own brains.

Please use yours. You just made a pretty decent case on Hopeless, so now do your own work on me.
I don't see how me repeating like 90% of Palmar's case would help us really.


If you can do it in your own words, then it would help, because you'd have to believe it to type it.

And then when you're looking at my filter and MZ's, you can think which of us is likelier to be scum, and which of us cares about the game more. For fuck's sake child.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 05 2013 13:21 GMT
#2250
it's not relevant, it was a really terrible question.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 05 2013 13:23 GMT
#2252
it doesn't matter because I'm town, and you're too stupid to see it.

So you also go into my ignore column for now, Lazer. Too many :<
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 05 2013 13:24 GMT
#2253
GUYS. LET'S LYNCH THE VET WITH 17 PAGES OF FILTER BEFORE THE FIRST CYCLE FINISHED. IT'S SUPER LIKELY HE IS SCUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 05 2013 13:27 GMT
#2255
On January 05 2013 22:27 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 22:22 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 05 2013 22:19 Clarity_nl wrote:
On January 05 2013 22:17 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 05 2013 22:14 Clarity_nl wrote:
On January 05 2013 22:13 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 05 2013 22:11 Clarity_nl wrote:
Lazer why can't MZ and marv not both be scum at the same time in your eyes?
They can. But I don't find it very likely.


That's not not not what I asked.

I'm asking WHY it's not very likely in your eyes
Well I don't think scum Marv would attack MZ in the position he is in. There are several people who have posted bad up untill this point so why chose your own team mate. Yes, he COULD be bussing, but I don't think it's likely.


Have you seen marv play scum? Last game he bussed adam because he didn't expect him to get lynched, but he never flinched in the thread even as he was convincing everyone to kill his teammate day 1.
Your reasoning is bad.
I don't see how my reasoning is bad. Like I said myself it is possible for Marv to be bussing but he doesn't have to. And I think it's more likely tahn not that he is not. Your argument is terribad. Just because Marv bussed one in one game doesn't make it MORE likely that he is bussing than not bussing.


You keep saying you "think" things without explaining why. Why do you think it's so unlikely for a scum marv to be bussing a teammate who he knows won't be lynched today,


Everytime you have an answer and the answer includes "I think", try asking "why do I think that" and if that answer includes "I think" do it again. repeat this process until you reach facts or an opinion that makes bloody sense.


eh, the real question is, why don't you think MZ will be lynched today? I find it highly likely.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 05 2013 13:28 GMT
#2257
On January 05 2013 22:28 kushm4sta wrote:
do people realize marv has almost a 20 page filter already? who knows how much more space has been taken up by answers to his many fruitless interrogations.

kill marv, kill the spam.
help make this game playable for anyone with a life.


how does this make me scum, you fucking moron?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 05 2013 13:30 GMT
#2261
I'm done with this game. I have requested a replacement, or I will be modkilled.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 05 2013 13:30 GMT
#2262
the stupidity is truly overwhelming
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 11 2013 13:10 GMT
#4029
I'm literally stunned Vivax was scum, when BC told me I was amazed. In the space of one game he seriously improved his scumplay, introducing far more of his "crazy" or "paranoid" townplay into his scum play. It's been an extremely long time since I had a scummer down as a proper townread, so wp Vivax indeed.

wp to the scumteam, watching town implode.

Sorry to the players for quitting, it was super lame. If you want to shout at me for being a douche, I'd rather you took it to PMs.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 11 2013 14:05 GMT
#4047
By the way, Foolishness was immediately catchable as mafia, as soon as he started posting sensibly-ish Night 1. He never *once* took a stance on marv vs Palmar, at all. From XXX analysis:

On August 26 2010 13:08 Ver wrote:
Look how distinctly similar this game is to Foolishness's post in Plexa's game (and overall play of course). In that game, BC and Pyrr fought each other the entire time and he made a great effort to stop them from fighting and get them to focus on the lurking mafia Ecomania. Of course he was not entirely right, as Pyrr was indeed mafia while BC was innocent. But compare this scenario to the current game, where he says Pyrr and Bill Murray are innocent, tries to stop them from fighting, and focuses on other targets. In this case, Youngminii. Note how similar his analysis and thinking patterns are.


Foolishness as town clearly has a heavy tendency to weigh in on these massive battles. He should have either have been defending or attacking me, not ignoring me.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 11 2013 16:03 GMT
#4069
On January 12 2013 00:58 supersoft wrote:
CC, froggynoddy, toadesstern, marv all played innacceptabel.
for the future we need a much harder punishment for these kind of plays.

i guess VE rage outburst shouldnt be punished further... the modkill is enough punishment. he played the game and wanted to win. he had one inapropriate moment.


Calling for modkills of other players (VE) in-thread isn't acceptable either, dear.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 11 2013 16:16 GMT
#4075
On January 12 2013 01:14 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 01:03 marvellosity wrote:
On January 12 2013 00:58 supersoft wrote:
CC, froggynoddy, toadesstern, marv all played innacceptabel.
for the future we need a much harder punishment for these kind of plays.

i guess VE rage outburst shouldnt be punished further... the modkill is enough punishment. he played the game and wanted to win. he had one inapropriate moment.


Calling for modkills of other players (VE) in-thread isn't acceptable either, dear.


so you think i should have been modkilled?


no, I don't, of course. What I did was banworthy and what you did wasn't, although you probably know you should have taken it to the host in PMs rather than the thread
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 11 2013 16:53 GMT
#4091
On January 12 2013 01:47 Clarity_nl wrote:
Yeah Djo's scum play scares me


I became incredibly suspicious of Djo right around where I ragequit. Witness the following posts:

On January 05 2013 06:38 Djodref wrote:

Do you have any breadcrumb by the way ?


On January 05 2013 09:14 Djodref wrote:

@ Keir

Did you cacth up with the whole thread now ?
What do you make of this day ? Do you think mafia was on BC's lynch ?

Also I would like to know if the fact that we have already 2 cops dead change anything about your read on marv.


On January 05 2013 10:00 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 09:52 marvellosity wrote:
Kei, why don't you stop talking about Toad, and start talking about more interesting people like Meapak or froggy.


@ marv

Who do you think mafia was voting at the end of day 1 ?


All these questions/points are useless, and serve no direction. He's asking all the wrong questions.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 11 2013 17:15 GMT
#4101
On January 12 2013 02:09 kushm4sta wrote:
Marv would not have been lynched if he didn't have a bitch fit and quit. That was town losing a blue no for reason.
Also apparently marv knew the entire scumteam right after he rq lol...that thanks of depriving town of your immense genius.

And if VE did not get modkilled for "behavior" whatever that means we would have had one more chance to lynch right.


no, I didn't, and if it came across that way it shouldn't.

At the time I quit, my strongest read was MZ (incorrect), then Foolish, Djo (correct), Cheesecake (incorrect), supersoft (correct), and froggy (incorrect).
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-11 17:21:24
January 11 2013 17:21 GMT
#4105
thrawn - you just weren't on my radar yet. normally i reassess night 1/beginning of day 2, but that was interrupted by a ragequit
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 11 2013 17:26 GMT
#4108
yes yes yes
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 11 2013 17:43 GMT
#4119
Nothing you do, VE, has ever been done before on TL.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 12 2013 22:34 GMT
#4183
just on a general note, I don't think i've ever had a serious vote on me as scum on day 1. This could be, in the future, taken as "har-de-har, what a lame defence for being scummy." But in 7 scum games and about 20 town games, this has been the case. I've regularly come under pressure and received votes day 1 as town, many times in fact, and never as scum.

For the love of god, leave me until day 3 when i'm not catching scum or being productive. My day 1 reads are terrible and most of the time I'm just prodding to try to find out what's going on.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 12 2013 22:51 GMT
#4185
On January 13 2013 07:38 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 07:34 marvellosity wrote:
just on a general note, I don't think i've ever had a serious vote on me as scum on day 1. This could be, in the future, taken as "har-de-har, what a lame defence for being scummy." But in 7 scum games and about 20 town games, this has been the case. I've regularly come under pressure and received votes day 1 as town, many times in fact, and never as scum.

For the love of god, leave me until day 3 when i'm not catching scum or being productive. My day 1 reads are terrible and most of the time I'm just prodding to try to find out what's going on.


thats why it's stupid to lynch vets d1-d2...


funny you should mention that. I don't know if you read the obsQT at all, but bugs said that as town you would never have lynched me so easily without giving me a chance day 1 if you were town.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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