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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 05 2013 14:24 GMT
#2301
On January 05 2013 23:20 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 23:19 Clarity_nl wrote:
I think the case itself isn't bad, but I don't believe hopeless is scum right now.
Policy talk is kind of his thing, as either alignment. Hopeless has this nasty habit as town to not scumhunt, sometimes.
Him switching votes like 4x close to deadline makes me think he's town.
Well, I disagree but OK.


i agree with clarity. in looney lynching he sat in the shadows as town except for whenever he got called out. then as he was no longer in danger of being lynched he went back to lazy mode
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 05 2013 14:28 GMT
#2302
On January 05 2013 23:10 Vivax wrote:
You're nuts Djo, I would totally lynch Kush. He's scummy, lurky, useless and aggressive. The epitome of anti-town play.



That's kush's play. I have just played a game with him, we were both in the scumteam, and you should know that this guy uses the extra-information he has all the time. He defends townie and bus people with the juicy part of their filters.
Because he loves being right.
Also I cannot prevent himself from doing that. He is the worst scum partner you can ever have.

So, even if you think he is scum, you should let him live
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
January 05 2013 14:34 GMT
#2303
BTW that case I promised is never coming. I misread. marv still scum
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 05 2013 14:37 GMT
#2304
I could lynch among Hopeless, Sentinel and MZ tomorrow. I have yet to see them do proper scumhunting.
I don't think they are all scum though. I'll see how they react to the pressure.
What I really like in Clarity's case against Sentinel is how Sentinel is promising to read the thread, without delivering.

On January 05 2013 00:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
As hard as I try, I have no idea what the hell we're talking about anymore.

Ima go read Adam's filter because for some reason he has been flying under my radar. Then I will have to go back to class because astronomy is my only free period


For example, this was totally unnecessary. And reading Adam's filter takes like less than 5 minutes, so he could have given us his insight instead of saying this.

One other thing I didn't like is this post

On January 05 2013 20:35 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Agreed. I'm sitting the night out.


I don't think Sentinel should feel any fear of being killed tonight. It's again another indirect way to hint that he is town, when he doesn't really need to.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 05 2013 14:42 GMT
#2305
On January 05 2013 23:37 Djodref wrote:
I could lynch among Hopeless, Sentinel and MZ tomorrow.


why hopeless and mz? i don't see anything about them in your filter
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 05 2013 14:43 GMT
#2306
On January 05 2013 23:23 Clarity_nl wrote:
What do you think of Sentinel and my case on him, Lazer?
Hmmm, I think you are grasping at straws a bit. Attacking the ways he is expressing himself and what not. alot of it comes down to WIFOM. Like your using this as a argument for him being scum:
Let's start with the very first sentence:
Show nested quote +
Good. Nobody has missed me. I wish I was a scum, I could lurk all the way to morning or even the deadline.


"lol you guys I wish I was scum, because if I was scum I would continue lurking, therefore this statement is me implying I'm town"
Implying that you are town is a scummy thing to do, town have no need for it, they ARE town, they don't have to imply it.
But more telling than that is that Sentinel betrays his own priorities, namely that while reading through the thread the first thing he looks for is if anyone is suspicious of him. Town look for scum, and if they see a case on themselves then they might react, they don't react to the fact that there is no case on them.
Though I think that its entirely possible that he is just a lazy townie and what not. His play isn't really pro-town but he is not playing a very good scum game either. I'm not keen on lynching him tomrrow really. He is null for me.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 05 2013 14:50 GMT
#2307
On January 05 2013 23:42 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 23:37 Djodref wrote:
I could lynch among Hopeless, Sentinel and MZ tomorrow.


why hopeless and mz? i don't see anything about them in your filter


True enough, I'm just sheeping Marv's case on MZ and WBG's case on Hopeless ^^
I like Marv's case better though, but I'm a little wary. I'm going to be more active starting now so hopefully I can catch MZ and Hopeless when they are going to be present in the thread.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 05 2013 14:51 GMT
#2308
On January 05 2013 23:43 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 23:23 Clarity_nl wrote:
What do you think of Sentinel and my case on him, Lazer?
Hmmm, I think you are grasping at straws a bit. Attacking the ways he is expressing himself and what not. alot of it comes down to WIFOM. Like your using this as a argument for him being scum:
Show nested quote +
Let's start with the very first sentence:
Good. Nobody has missed me. I wish I was a scum, I could lurk all the way to morning or even the deadline.


"lol you guys I wish I was scum, because if I was scum I would continue lurking, therefore this statement is me implying I'm town"
Implying that you are town is a scummy thing to do, town have no need for it, they ARE town, they don't have to imply it.
But more telling than that is that Sentinel betrays his own priorities, namely that while reading through the thread the first thing he looks for is if anyone is suspicious of him. Town look for scum, and if they see a case on themselves then they might react, they don't react to the fact that there is no case on them.
Though I think that its entirely possible that he is just a lazy townie and what not. His play isn't really pro-town but he is not playing a very good scum game either. I'm not keen on lynching him tomrrow really. He is null for me.


It shows a scum mindset. As town you might care about not getting lynched, but until that point you don't care what people think of you that much. As scum you care a helluva lot more, and him lurking and then going "wtf I'm not under suspicion?" is total scum mindset.
Implying you are town is on the list of top 10 things scum like to do.

If he was a lazy townie then he wouldn't suddenly be surprised that no one finds him suspicious.
if he was a lazy townie then he wouldn't make a promise to go super scumhunting and then not follow through. That's scum trying to force himself to contribute but not being able to, because it's hard to scumhunt when you're scum.

He didn't have the balls to call me scum, he never followed up on reading Hero Mini, and even his vote on Palmar was because he was scum, it was because he hadn't posted the logs
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 05 2013 14:51 GMT
#2309
Fuck you Marv for quitting. I was going to write a big ass case about why you were a good lynch day 1 and why people should look at you again day 2 but now you've ruined that.

I can't speak for everyone in this game, but I believe my win con states that I actually have to kill mafia. To do that I have to be able to find them but right now it is a difficult task discerning stupid from scum, sheep from wolf. Some of you players ought to rethink your strategy this game.
Writer@WriterYamato
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 05 2013 14:52 GMT
#2310
Lazer. what arguements I make in my case exactly do you believe to be WIFOM?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
January 05 2013 14:55 GMT
#2311
I want to know if marv is really quitting or he's going to come back and say jk
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 05 2013 14:58 GMT
#2312
Work from the assumption that he's actually quitting and if he didn't then he'll be modkilled, like the rest of us, and move on and go scumhunt.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 05 2013 14:58 GMT
#2313
On January 05 2013 23:51 yamato77 wrote:
Fuck you Marv for quitting. I was going to write a big ass case about why you were a good lynch day 1 and why people should look at you again day 2 but now you've ruined that.

I can't speak for everyone in this game, but I believe my win con states that I actually have to kill mafia. To do that I have to be able to find them but right now it is a difficult task discerning stupid from scum, sheep from wolf. Some of you players ought to rethink your strategy this game.


I don't think marv is going to get allowed to quit. You should calm down and write your case.
Who else do you have as scum ?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 05 2013 15:01 GMT
#2314
On January 05 2013 23:51 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 23:43 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 05 2013 23:23 Clarity_nl wrote:
What do you think of Sentinel and my case on him, Lazer?
Hmmm, I think you are grasping at straws a bit. Attacking the ways he is expressing himself and what not. alot of it comes down to WIFOM. Like your using this as a argument for him being scum:
Let's start with the very first sentence:
Good. Nobody has missed me. I wish I was a scum, I could lurk all the way to morning or even the deadline.


"lol you guys I wish I was scum, because if I was scum I would continue lurking, therefore this statement is me implying I'm town"
Implying that you are town is a scummy thing to do, town have no need for it, they ARE town, they don't have to imply it.
But more telling than that is that Sentinel betrays his own priorities, namely that while reading through the thread the first thing he looks for is if anyone is suspicious of him. Town look for scum, and if they see a case on themselves then they might react, they don't react to the fact that there is no case on them.
Though I think that its entirely possible that he is just a lazy townie and what not. His play isn't really pro-town but he is not playing a very good scum game either. I'm not keen on lynching him tomrrow really. He is null for me.


It shows a scum mindset. As town you might care about not getting lynched, but until that point you don't care what people think of you that much. As scum you care a helluva lot more, and him lurking and then going "wtf I'm not under suspicion?" is total scum mindset.
Implying you are town is on the list of top 10 things scum like to do.

If he was a lazy townie then he wouldn't suddenly be surprised that no one finds him suspicious.
if he was a lazy townie then he wouldn't make a promise to go super scumhunting and then not follow through. That's scum trying to force himself to contribute but not being able to, because it's hard to scumhunt when you're scum.

He didn't have the balls to call me scum, he never followed up on reading Hero Mini, and even his vote on Palmar was because he was scum, it was because he hadn't posted the logs
I think its quite obvious that he is joking in the post. And that is what I mean with WIFOM in your case. Either he is serious in which case you are right or he is joking. So it comes down to WIFOM. For example did both grush and VE claim town the first page, would you call them scum for that?

Also, the fact that he lied(didn't check hero, or at least didn't say so + never called you scum) is bad play regardless of whether he is scum or town so I don't think it's a very good tell at all.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 05 2013 15:06 GMT
#2315
On January 06 2013 00:01 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 23:51 Clarity_nl wrote:
On January 05 2013 23:43 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 05 2013 23:23 Clarity_nl wrote:
What do you think of Sentinel and my case on him, Lazer?
Hmmm, I think you are grasping at straws a bit. Attacking the ways he is expressing himself and what not. alot of it comes down to WIFOM. Like your using this as a argument for him being scum:
Let's start with the very first sentence:
Good. Nobody has missed me. I wish I was a scum, I could lurk all the way to morning or even the deadline.


"lol you guys I wish I was scum, because if I was scum I would continue lurking, therefore this statement is me implying I'm town"
Implying that you are town is a scummy thing to do, town have no need for it, they ARE town, they don't have to imply it.
But more telling than that is that Sentinel betrays his own priorities, namely that while reading through the thread the first thing he looks for is if anyone is suspicious of him. Town look for scum, and if they see a case on themselves then they might react, they don't react to the fact that there is no case on them.
Though I think that its entirely possible that he is just a lazy townie and what not. His play isn't really pro-town but he is not playing a very good scum game either. I'm not keen on lynching him tomrrow really. He is null for me.


It shows a scum mindset. As town you might care about not getting lynched, but until that point you don't care what people think of you that much. As scum you care a helluva lot more, and him lurking and then going "wtf I'm not under suspicion?" is total scum mindset.
Implying you are town is on the list of top 10 things scum like to do.

If he was a lazy townie then he wouldn't suddenly be surprised that no one finds him suspicious.
if he was a lazy townie then he wouldn't make a promise to go super scumhunting and then not follow through. That's scum trying to force himself to contribute but not being able to, because it's hard to scumhunt when you're scum.

He didn't have the balls to call me scum, he never followed up on reading Hero Mini, and even his vote on Palmar was because he was scum, it was because he hadn't posted the logs
I think its quite obvious that he is joking in the post. And that is what I mean with WIFOM in your case. Either he is serious in which case you are right or he is joking. So it comes down to WIFOM. For example did both grush and VE claim town the first page, would you call them scum for that?

Also, the fact that he lied(didn't check hero, or at least didn't say so + never called you scum) is bad play regardless of whether he is scum or town so I don't think it's a very good tell at all.


@ LazerMonkey

It's bad play, and maybe he is going to check hero or not at the end, but it takes more time or more effort to actually do things as scum in my view. Also the fact that he implied that he was town and going to scumhunt without delivering more than only one time makes him suspicious.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 05 2013 15:10 GMT
#2316
On January 05 2013 23:58 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 23:51 yamato77 wrote:
Fuck you Marv for quitting. I was going to write a big ass case about why you were a good lynch day 1 and why people should look at you again day 2 but now you've ruined that.

I can't speak for everyone in this game, but I believe my win con states that I actually have to kill mafia. To do that I have to be able to find them but right now it is a difficult task discerning stupid from scum, sheep from wolf. Some of you players ought to rethink your strategy this game.


I don't think marv is going to get allowed to quit. You should calm down and write your case.
Who else do you have as scum ?

Bugs and VE.
Writer@WriterYamato
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 05 2013 15:13 GMT
#2317
On January 06 2013 00:10 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 23:58 Djodref wrote:
On January 05 2013 23:51 yamato77 wrote:
Fuck you Marv for quitting. I was going to write a big ass case about why you were a good lynch day 1 and why people should look at you again day 2 but now you've ruined that.

I can't speak for everyone in this game, but I believe my win con states that I actually have to kill mafia. To do that I have to be able to find them but right now it is a difficult task discerning stupid from scum, sheep from wolf. Some of you players ought to rethink your strategy this game.


I don't think marv is going to get allowed to quit. You should calm down and write your case.
Who else do you have as scum ?

Bugs and VE.


I haven't really read bugs but VE is town yo. Look at him he's so happy he hasn't rolled scum for like the billionth time in a row.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 05 2013 15:14 GMT
#2318
On January 06 2013 00:13 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 00:10 yamato77 wrote:
On January 05 2013 23:58 Djodref wrote:
On January 05 2013 23:51 yamato77 wrote:
Fuck you Marv for quitting. I was going to write a big ass case about why you were a good lynch day 1 and why people should look at you again day 2 but now you've ruined that.

I can't speak for everyone in this game, but I believe my win con states that I actually have to kill mafia. To do that I have to be able to find them but right now it is a difficult task discerning stupid from scum, sheep from wolf. Some of you players ought to rethink your strategy this game.


I don't think marv is going to get allowed to quit. You should calm down and write your case.
Who else do you have as scum ?

Bugs and VE.


I haven't really read bugs but VE is town yo. Look at him he's so happy he hasn't rolled scum for like the billionth time in a row.

VE spams a lot of useless posts and looks like he has no spine.

But I guess that is town play in this game so I'll take your word for it.
Writer@WriterYamato
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 05 2013 15:23 GMT
#2319
Anyway, I'm afk for some hours tho. Hopefully back before deadline tho not certain.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
January 05 2013 15:23 GMT
#2320
On January 06 2013 00:14 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 00:13 Clarity_nl wrote:
On January 06 2013 00:10 yamato77 wrote:
On January 05 2013 23:58 Djodref wrote:
On January 05 2013 23:51 yamato77 wrote:
Fuck you Marv for quitting. I was going to write a big ass case about why you were a good lynch day 1 and why people should look at you again day 2 but now you've ruined that.

I can't speak for everyone in this game, but I believe my win con states that I actually have to kill mafia. To do that I have to be able to find them but right now it is a difficult task discerning stupid from scum, sheep from wolf. Some of you players ought to rethink your strategy this game.


I don't think marv is going to get allowed to quit. You should calm down and write your case.
Who else do you have as scum ?

Bugs and VE.


I haven't really read bugs but VE is town yo. Look at him he's so happy he hasn't rolled scum for like the billionth time in a row.

VE spams a lot of useless posts and looks like he has no spine.

But I guess that is town play in this game so I'll take your word for it.


you give up on your scumread so easily. Also he didn't day that about ve in his last post. So you must have already known that about his scumplay, so why did you list him as a scumread?
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