EPTsome sort of orgy our are you guys masons or something?
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iamperfection
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some sort of orgy our are you guys masons or something? | ||
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Keirathi
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On January 05 2013 13:27 kushm4sta wrote: as soon as it was obvious he was going to get lynched otherwise Town marv was yelled at in Paranoia for claiming Cop day 1 when he was the majority lynch with an hour and a half left. His last post before he claimed was over an hour and a half before his claim post. Which means it was over 2 hours before deadline. It wouldn't be that big of a shock to me if a town marv wouldn't claim at that point (even earlier than the last claim), after the flak he received for it recently by some of the very same players in this game. And whatever you want to say about marv, I don't think he is a liar. If he said he was off playing a board game with his SO's family, he was probably off playing a board game. Basically the timing of his claim is a null tell. | ||
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Keirathi
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Who is Mandy, though, and why is she a Slow Cop? | ||
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supersoft
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supersoft
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Mandy (Billy and Mandy), a character from The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy, an animated television series Mandy (24 character), professional assassin from the American television series 24 Mandy (comic), a DC Thomson girls' comic published from 1967 until 1991 Mandy Salter, a fictional character from the BBC soap opera EastEnders | ||
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Keirathi
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debears
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I just like Chez. I decided to join his roleplay society in the meanwhile until the game settles down | ||
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debears
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On January 05 2013 15:07 supersoft wrote: english wikipedia found this, though Mandy (Billy and Mandy), a character from The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy, an animated television series Mandy (24 character), professional assassin from the American television series 24 Mandy (comic), a DC Thomson girls' comic published from 1967 until 1991 Mandy Salter, a fictional character from the BBC soap opera EastEnders Lol Billy and Mandy. I actually thought of her boomerang shaped blonde hair | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
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supersoft
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yamato77
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If you disagree tell me why | ||
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wherebugsgo
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On January 05 2013 17:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: hey guys I'm not scum. Just getting that out of the way so we don't waste time tomorrow. damn, that was really convincing. | ||
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yamato77
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
On January 05 2013 17:25 supersoft wrote: So who do you think is scum? It's pretty quiet in here right now, so we can talk a little i guess. probably hopeless. I'd also be happy to see Marv dead since I still feel Palmar's case was pretty good. Honestly here's the problem supersoft, there are couple people who I'm pretty sure are town because I've just seen them play this way many times before. But knowing who townies are isn't really relevant and only helps narrow down the number of suspects. The thread environment has been godawful so far for scum hunting, I could probably write a semi decent case on 3/4 of the players in this game (myself included). Obviously not everyone is scum but its gonna take some time for me to begin to pick apart the motivations behind all the spam. If you want me to explain exactly how I scum hunt that's fine and I will, but you're gonna have to believe me when I say I have no rock solid reads. | ||
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wherebugsgo
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On January 05 2013 17:36 yamato77 wrote: Hey bugs will you lynch marv? why/why not? if he doesn't improve his play tomorrow, I might be convinced. However, I am almost sure that there will be a better lynch. If either of Hopeless and tube are alive tomorrow they will both make better lynches IMO. | ||
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supersoft
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uhh. okay whatever. I guess you got one day to increase your play dramatically... | ||
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Lazermonkey
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Marv may very well be scum after all. Two slow alignment cops seems quite unlikely, espesially given that we had a day cop as well. I actually like his case on MZ tho. Especially the points regarding Tunkeg. But I'm puzzled. I'm not keen at lynching him at all tomorrow because most likely both of them are NOT scum. And I'm more suspicious of Marv. A vigi shot on tube is bad also imo. The vigi(s), if there are any, should be aiming for the most suspicous person. Not a retarded lurker The case on Hopeless So, first off I'd recomend you to take a look at WBGs case becuase I think it was quite good. Now for my own case it basically boils down to this. Hopeless doesn't have shitloads of posts, but it's quite irrelevant. He is far from being the most inactive guy right now. Now onto what ACTUALLY makes him scum NO SCUM HUNTING WHAT SO EVER! Link to zeh filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=373946&user=123725 So I am going to list every post Hopeless have done about him thinking someone is suspicious/wants to lynch him. I am not going to list posts of him discussing policy, because that's not actual scum hunting. On January 04 2013 08:19 Hopeless1der wrote: I'm unfamiliar with his meta, I don't remember ever playing with him before. His filter sucks and presumably hasn't been so 'sucky' in previous games? Going to go take a glance at his previous games now. On January 04 2013 08:33 Hopeless1der wrote: iamp, i skimmed witchcraft and then he posted this: So I'm gonna sit on what I thought about him until that gets done. On January 05 2013 00:37 Hopeless1der wrote: For justice then, ##Vote: Mr. Cheesecake On January 05 2013 00:42 Hopeless1der wrote: How do you feel about cc's promised, yet undelivered, reads On January 05 2013 00:56 Hopeless1der wrote: uhh, unless there was more, I remember it was kush, and thinking 'godamnit' to myself: On January 05 2013 01:12 Hopeless1der wrote: Don't want to lynch lazer yet, but he discredits thrawn by saying the "mafia motive" part of the case is missing, then goes on to address the "mafia motive" in the case. On January 05 2013 04:08 Hopeless1der wrote: ##Unvote: Mr. Cheesecake ##Vote: tube On January 05 2013 04:16 Hopeless1der wrote:  No, I don't have a townread on marv, but I don't want to lynch him either, so back I go ##Unvote: tube ##Vote: Mr. Cheesecake On January 05 2013 04:27 Hopeless1der wrote: These are literally the only posts by him that's discussing scum. the rest of them arediscussing policy, giving out townreads and having fun. So, what you will notice is that all of these posts are crap. He basically doesn't motivate a single thing in his posts. Yes, hopeless, I know you wrote two sentences about explaining why CC were scum and three on explaining your BC vote, so don't come with some Bullshit about me contradicting myself again. 5 sentences explaining your scum reads D1 are basically equivalent to none. I thought you said we needed to stop spamming. And yes, I do that regardless of alignment. Could you expand a bit on me taking random lynching too seriously? @Marv: Right up until he voted Palmar, I wouldn't have looked twice. He seemed to have been keeping up with the thread and somewhat cared, especially his prodding at yamato for example + Show Spoiler + On January 04 2013 02:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Ive never played a game with you to my knowledge so why is my vouching enough to dissuade you? but his vote against Palmar looks really forced and then he disappears. He's certainly scummier than you are right now, and no one is biting on CC ##Unvote: Mr. Cheesecake ##Vote: BloodyC0bbler So, the next thing one might ask is, does hopeless always play this shitty when(if) he is town? because if he is. then he might not be scum. So I looked at his filter in Mario Mini Mafia were he played Vanilla(link)The diferrence in game play is sooo insane I cannot find teh words for it. Here are two posts from D1: On November 14 2012 22:16 Hopeless1der wrote: Let me just say this once. Fuck off debears. Nothing personal, but in all seriousness OMGUS. I'm still your scum read because I've done nothing since you laid into me for 'lecturing town'. If you still want to harp on that chord, you're not being a good little townie. I was afk for longer than you were, and you have nothing new to post in the thread. I'll lay this out for you. This is the post I was "lecturing" about: I was not lecturing everyone, I was responding to a single post and listing multiple examples of less than stellar reasons to vote for someone. I was told to drop it with you so you could focus on the rest of the game instead, because I was distracting you from being useful. And yet I'm still your top scum read and iamperfection is still the only other player you'll really talk about. You haven't commented on anything significant (neither have I yet, but fuck it, you're already voting me) I dont give a shit what your IRL issues are, same as you probably dont care why I was gone. I care that you claim that there are no better cases than the one on me when you have no new information and are just stuck on the fact that I'm afk and therefore avoiding you. What's more, you aren't even pushing me as your scum read. Yes this is an OMGUS vote. ##Vote: debears Am I going to need to pull a BH and shoot my load earl--I mean sift through my own meta to find examples of me being a jackass? Btw debears, why in the hell were you unable/unwilling to comment on BH's claim? On November 15 2012 07:40 Hopeless1der wrote: Yhea...The following are a list of people who, if lynched, would be heavily motivated by activity: Me - Town Debears - Scum Thrawn - Still alive in Acme. Also drastically inactive. His excuse is getting too high. Checks out. Null DarthPunk - His play doesn't fit any Mafia meta at all (Mafia = the game itself, not the alignment). Also still alive in Acme. Checks out. Null Kickstarter - First game. Calls Hapa scummy, then BH and Hapa as scumbuddies. He goes on to suggest that flipping one is the same as flipping the other+ Show Spoiler + On November 14 2012 12:27 Kickstart wrote: I already said how I view it - him pressuring and questioning people, I don't feel that he needs to change his vote to the person he is pressuring / trying to get a read on? Would it help? Maybe. Is it a scum tell that he didn't? Not to me. and I see we are quickly posting back and forth so I will just reiterate on: Again, I am reading both you and BH as scummy. I was going to vote him and if he flipped red auto vote you, but now that he jk claimed I am just as content to do the opposite - vote you and if you flip red vote him. And the above should do fine in response to BHs snarky comment. My voting has nothing to do with being a man or not, you are overusing that line. I am keeping my vote on Hapa for now  , and if he does get lynched and flips red, I will gladly vote for you immediatly. He goes on to vote me, but just lumps himself into the 'other cases on me'. I realize it may be an effort to consolidate, but he has offered nothing other than his vote and I find that scummy. In addition, he feels that Hapa has redeemed himself, and BH can't be lynched today due to his claim. However, there is no discussion from him regarding the two (current) lynch candidates. Again, I find this scummy. I had to pull the information from him, instead of him offering it up freely. Pot, Kettle, Black, but its no less true. Crossfire - has posted very little. My read on him is that he and BH are not both scum. All his posts have related to BH in some way so far, and seem sincere in that he cannot understand the need to claim. I'm null on him, with the caveat that if BH flips scum, he's most likely town. Hapa - town, largely due to connections between him and debears, and between him and kickstart. This read has severely influenced my current scumreads. BH is trolly as fuck, but unlynchable today due to an uncountered JK claim. I haven't read into his meta, because there is no chance to push his lynch, even if I can make a convincing case. Despite this, I think the trolling is scummy, and I'll need to read the threads he's referenced during the night (assuming I'm not lynched). Marv - Town. Huge filter but its not really spammy. I get the feeling he cares, is active and is helping to organize town. Even if hes not town, which I think he is, I'd want to watch him sit idle as down destroys itself before I feel the need to vote him. This read is based on meta from games I played with marv: Mad Men (Town-Marv), and Death Note (Scum-Marv). iamperfection - Null. I've commented on this already. I'm sad that he doesn't want to lynch debears and sadder that it means he'll probably vote me, but I don't have scum alarms going off. Clarity - Town. He seems to misread the thread or just confuse people alot. I feel that type of repeating 'mistake' is less likely to happen as scum. Fairly active and is sticking to his read on DP. Also is seen trying to focus people into more productive avenues. Could be called faked activity, but his intentions are open for all to see. I'd like to know where he stands at present between me and debears though. Z-Bo - Town. I liked his pursuit of his case against BH and thought he brought up some legitimate points. Apparently they were so good BH had to claim to escape. Also, tried to get a meta read on me, concludes I'm scum. Slight contradictions from his earlier stance that I was similar to the game he meta'd me with, and I know he's wrong, but that doesn't make him scum. His conclusions are true and he looks like he's legitimately trying to catch scum. Strongandbig - Null-Town. Strange vt claim feels townslippy. However, Kenpachi rule shenanigans and insists on lynching BH for a while, despite blueclaim. Too strong of a scum motive to just let that slide, but I also think BH is scummy, so this read flips to Null-Scum if BH is in fact JK. There are actually more things that make him scum but this is the biggest point IMO. Will post the rest later today hopefully... | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
On January 05 2013 17:57 supersoft wrote: meapak i really get the feeling that you don't follow the game and you just copy the opinion of some vets. uhh. okay whatever. I guess you got one day to increase your play dramatically... This is accurate to a degree, I've been following the game, have read every post, and have even read some filters, but I haven't been able to really make sense of it yet. I actually appreciate you giving me a day, I actually wasn't in bang bang and you're usually one of the first people (along with palmar) who calls me stupid at any given point. I will present a case and push it tomorrow. No, I won't tunnel this case but I will at least bring something new to the table. | ||
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