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Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 08 2013 22:34 GMT
#3217
This sucks.

With that being said, I'm off to bed...
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 09 2013 09:27 GMT
#3467
I'm in school atm. Can't post much atm. Debears is scum basically for the reasons that Djo posted. Foolish looks bad as well. I think VE is town due to his emotional talk with host and what not. It looks geniun to me. Toad hasn't been posting in forever, which is bad considering that he is a good player. Might very well be because he is scum.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 09 2013 09:28 GMT
#3468
##Vote: Debears
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 09 2013 09:31 GMT
#3469
I like kush as well. Probebly town.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 09 2013 21:19 GMT
#3545
Okey, I just recondsidered my CC lynch. I actually think he is the scummiest player in the game right now.

So, CC have not only been lurking these past few days. He has been posting exactly 1 post each cycle for the 2 last cycles. Now, I asked myself today, what would be the town motivation for this. I couldn't find an answer. As town, why wouldn't he try? I can take that he doesn't have time/don't care but why the heck wouldn't he just ask for a replacement. To be frank, even a modkill on CC would be beneficial for us right now. He knows this. Everyone knows this. There are a clear mafia motive in playing like CC tho.

I am actually more confident in lynching CC atm than debears. But for the time being.

Unvote
Vote: Mr. Cheesecake
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 09 2013 21:27 GMT
#3547
On January 10 2013 06:23 kushm4sta wrote:
im not screaming his towniness. I just think he's a null read
Explain how it is a null read. Give me one good explanation from CC in a town PoV.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 09 2013 21:34 GMT
#3549
On January 10 2013 06:29 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2013 06:19 Lazermonkey wrote:
Okey, I just recondsidered my CC lynch. I actually think he is the scummiest player in the game right now.

So, CC have not only been lurking these past few days. He has been posting exactly 1 post each cycle for the 2 last cycles. Now, I asked myself today, what would be the town motivation for this. I couldn't find an answer. As town, why wouldn't he try? I can take that he doesn't have time/don't care but why the heck wouldn't he just ask for a replacement. To be frank, even a modkill on CC would be beneficial for us right now. He knows this. Everyone knows this. There are a clear mafia motive in playing like CC tho.
Unvote
Vote: Mr. Cheesecake


What? You're talking like he's town in the bolded part
Yhea, well I meant that IF CC were town, even a modkill on him would help us.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 09 2013 21:34 GMT
#3550
Also, you dodged my question...
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 09 2013 21:39 GMT
#3554
owfuck, I read you as kush. I'm sorry : (. Well, while we are at it, what's your opinion about CC?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 09 2013 21:40 GMT
#3556
EBWOP: that was obviously to thrawn ; )
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 09 2013 21:49 GMT
#3562
On January 10 2013 06:42 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2013 06:39 Lazermonkey wrote:
owfuck, I read you as kush. I'm sorry : (. Well, while we are at it, what's your opinion about CC?


mostly same as kush's o.0

basically... I witnessed Witchcraft Mafia.

Everyone considering a CC lynch REALLY needs to go read that game. Don't even look at his/anyone else's alignment before you read his filter.
Yhea, but the games are diferent arenät they? he posted shit loads of stuff in that game so he is obviously not fitting in his town meta at all(which doesn't say too to much because he doesn't actually fit his scum meta either IIRC, which makes the meta a null). And I don't buy the argument: ''he was bad in witchcraft and town, thus every time he is bad, he is scum.'' That would just be silly. Actually it would be double silly, because you could NEVER lynch CC implying that logic. Can you tell me ONE reason for him to play like he does as town. And I'm not talking about not contributing but rather the fact that he doesn't care about the game YET he does post 1 post every cycle in order not to get modkilled.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 09 2013 21:51 GMT
#3563
On January 10 2013 06:46 kushm4sta wrote:
When CC is town he is comfortable in the thread. Last game I was in with him, he kept saying "If this guy flips green im scum im definitely scum." But he was town. As town he will pretty much say anything.

As scum CC is a lot more careful and a lot more clean. His average post length becomes longer by magnitudes.

Explain from a CC townie perspective: what I see in CC is someone who is inactive. Inactivity is a trait of both alignments.
Read my post. Inactivty isn't the reason I'm voting him.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 09 2013 22:20 GMT
#3575
On January 10 2013 06:55 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2013 06:49 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 10 2013 06:42 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 10 2013 06:39 Lazermonkey wrote:
owfuck, I read you as kush. I'm sorry : (. Well, while we are at it, what's your opinion about CC?


mostly same as kush's o.0

basically... I witnessed Witchcraft Mafia.

Everyone considering a CC lynch REALLY needs to go read that game. Don't even look at his/anyone else's alignment before you read his filter.
Yhea, but the games are diferent arenät they? he posted shit loads of stuff in that game so he is obviously not fitting in his town meta at all(which doesn't say too to much because he doesn't actually fit his scum meta either IIRC, which makes the meta a null). And I don't buy the argument: ''he was bad in witchcraft and town, thus every time he is bad, he is scum.'' That would just be silly. Actually it would be double silly, because you could NEVER lynch CC implying that logic. Can you tell me ONE reason for him to play like he does as town. And I'm not talking about not contributing but rather the fact that he doesn't care about the game YET he does post 1 post every cycle in order not to get modkilled.


it's about his "I'm not gonna do my part because I don't care or am too lazy to provide rational analysis and idc who calls me out for it" attitude

and no I can't think of a good reason for why he'd do it as town but that doesn't mean he cant be doing it. whatever reasons might exist are obviously dumb

did you actually read witchcraft? please do it, and tell me what you imagine his emotional state during that game to be
Like I said, His attitude is actually not the reason I am voting him.

I will not read witchcraft, it's a waste of time. My impression is that he was a posty town who played quite bad and appeared to be scum. So as far as I am concerned, his meta is not relevant in this situation at all.

Also, if you cannot see a reason for him to do it as town you should either try to find it or vote him. Period.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 09 2013 22:24 GMT
#3578
On January 10 2013 07:07 kushm4sta wrote:
Some people request a replacement when they are inactive. Some got modkilled. Some post the absolute minimum so that they don't get modkilled or replaced.
That last one is how i would play if I were super busy or didn't give a shit.
If you show me ONE game where a town player who wasn't a complete noob did this and I will reconsider my read on CC. One game.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 09 2013 22:28 GMT
#3580
On January 10 2013 07:21 thrawn2112 wrote:
idk... i dont get what point you're trying to make. do scum always need scum motivation to do things? if it's something that makes them seem like town, and it wouldn't hurt them too badly, why wouldn't they "help out" the thread every now and then? do you really think mz was the the only town person (and therefore potential mislynch) among the list of whoever the thread was considering for lynching at that time?

like your agrument seems extremely similar to "a scum wouldn't give town reads on a townie"
...

If a scum player are placing a town read on someone, surely there is a reason for it? Like they want to appear town prehaps? You are using the most backward and crazy logic ever, which further confirms the fact that you are town but I ask you to OPEN your eyes and realise that CC is scum. Vote him. Let him flip scum. Enjoy!
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 09 2013 22:35 GMT
#3583
On January 10 2013 07:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay hold on a second.

If the thread really was primed for an MZ lynch then why would they shoot him?

Like, and it was too...Palmar, myself, marv had a case....an MZ lynch could have happened. So why WOULD they shoot him.

:/
I dunno, but speculating in NKs is just, speculations...

MZ were basically confirmed town or at least would've been by the end of the day. I see that as a enough of a reason.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 09 2013 22:44 GMT
#3586
On January 10 2013 07:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's not NK though, it's day kill.

That's different...because it means they can do it at any point. Meaning that it had an agenda behind it. They used the dayvig on MZ...meaning they wanted it to go through no matter what.

And at any time they want...

It's not just night-kill speculation, there's more information surrounding it than night-kills.
True enough point. But this was during the time when people actually started to realize that MZ actually was more or less confirmed town and letting a confirmed townie, even a weak one, to live is suboptimal play from scum imo.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 09 2013 22:47 GMT
#3591
On January 10 2013 07:44 Promethelax wrote:
hey all, I'll stand for me being townie. I doubt anyone else will, besides djo I guess and Kush who called me scum for a while but then called be null? I don't get it at all. Kush explain please.

Thrawn, if you are around, I want to know why it is that you think I am scum when I have showed you that in YAN I was town and playing the same way.
I'm having you as nulling as well ; ). But lynching you today is stupid. Really stupid. We need to lynch CC!
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 09 2013 22:57 GMT
#3602
I'm going to bed now. I'm quite confident in debears lynch but way more confident in CC lynch. Anyone who ends up not voting CC better give a damn fine reason for doing so. And, no. thrawn's and kush' reasons aren't good. Give me ONE single reason for him to be playing like this(posting once every cycle as town). This isn't about meta because afaik he never played anything like this in any of his games. Thus meta arguments are invalid.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 09 2013 22:58 GMT
#3603
EBWOP: playing like this AS TOWN.
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