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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
October 16 2012 01:14 GMT
#1088
kush if you are just gonna be autopilot mode the rest of the game then ur either scum or town but completely worthless town. i don't think i've seen you post an original idea since start of d2
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
October 16 2012 02:07 GMT
#1094
i'm re reading the thread and i'm suspicious of hopeless because i am seeing some weirdness in the way he talks about ON and ends up voting for sand. i'll expand on that later
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
October 16 2012 02:44 GMT
#1100
On October 16 2012 11:39 Hopeless1der wrote: I won't sit idle tomorrow, if I'm still alive.


fos that guy ^^

lol if you're town why on earth would mafia kill you that's so silly to suggest otherwise

you need to start doing something other than talking about how scummy you are
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
October 16 2012 02:50 GMT
#1102
lol here's a brief summary of the hopeless thus far:

hey hopeless ur scummy

yeah man i know sorry bout that
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
October 16 2012 03:01 GMT
#1105
lol kush are you sreious

sand probably wouldn't have gotten any votes at all if not for me. did you even look at my filter before writing that post or are you just mad that i'm not blindlessing saying "lynch da0 then mem gg"

"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
October 16 2012 03:03 GMT
#1106
*blindlessly if that's even a word
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
October 16 2012 10:17 GMT
#1123
how exactly is it different? only thing I can think of is that I'm somewhat trollish this game.... not really sure why I'm being like that but it could be due to... to quote nony... "substances that we'll collectively call alcohol"

and yeah I'm actually in agreement with you about daoud. I'm also not convinced about memtoss. Lately I've been wading through the filters of hopeless/austin. Austin's play has just been weird compared to his normal meta. I'm used to seeing him writing these exhaustive walls of analysis where he details his exact reads on people... this game he's just been doing stranger stuff and he seems more willing to go into lurk mode if you don't call him out
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
October 16 2012 10:21 GMT
#1125
i'm not sure what you're wanting me to explain lol
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
October 16 2012 10:26 GMT
#1127
I pursued sandroba pretty aggressively. I haven't been writing walls of text this game like I normally do but more and more I'm thinking that that's kinda a shitty way to play.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
October 16 2012 10:59 GMT
#1130
On October 16 2012 19:54 kushm4sta wrote:
haha thrawn when did you realize this? after sandroba's speech that made no sense (will get to that in post game)?


yeah that was part of it but mostly just looking at how well it's done for me in the past. writing walls of text is good at making you look town but it means you're spend less time reading the thread and thinking... instead you just sit there jerking off to how good you think your posts are
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
October 16 2012 11:23 GMT
#1131
kush what do you think about austin/hiro?

and if you aren't sure about da0 anymore you want to lynch memtoss right? why is that
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
October 16 2012 12:11 GMT
#1137
On October 16 2012 21:04 kushm4sta wrote:
@thrawn have you ever rolled scum before? Do not answer for liquid city since that game is ongoing.

If you rolled scum what would you play like?


no I haven't (unless you count sk) so I have no idea. I'd either ask my mafia bros for advice the entire time or I'd just tell them to bus the shit out of me D1. or I might bus the shit out of them the whole game.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
October 16 2012 23:01 GMT
#1177
Right now I don't think da0 or memtoss are scum. I haven't done the book club stuff or whatever that was so I'll do that later. I'm still not liking something about austin's play but I can't exactly put my finger on it. Also kush is being more dense than usual which often means he's scum so I'm a little more wary of him than I was before.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
October 16 2012 23:03 GMT
#1179
oh god lol
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
October 16 2012 23:48 GMT
#1186
kush why is hiro so town to you?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
October 17 2012 04:21 GMT
#1218
da0 wtf how can I be your very top town read without you even knowing why
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
October 17 2012 06:13 GMT
#1222
There's a lot in the tone and motive of da0's posts that make me think he is scum, but I'm having a hard time differentiating that from what might just be language barrier problems, or general first time noobishness. Here are some examples. They include just general weirdness, hints of insincerity, and chiming in with agreement whenever people defend him.

+ Show Spoiler +

On October 10 2012 13:24 da0ud wrote:
Hi again guys !

Happy to be here with ya all !
I am french leaving in HK and pretty bored at work currently so this game will have my full attention. This is my first MAFIA game on a chat thread, but I have played a lot with real friends in real life. So it should be pretty cool.

One first guess on the voting system is that people who are already given a BYE from first round are at a disadvantage (cause they have one less chance to be out) and on top of that they are higher seeded hence at a second disadvantage in case of 0-0 tie. Pretty unfair isn't it.

I guess it must have been a master plan from the Alien Invaders who put themselves all as the lowest seeded people. I would put focus on eliminating players number 10, 11 and 12 this round if possible.

What do you guys think ?
At least i am trying to put a lead on who is what....

Daoud.


On October 11 2012 12:53 da0ud wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2012 08:21 austinmcc wrote:
On October 11 2012 08:12 kushm4sta wrote:
Thrawn did you read my point about how it's a scum mentality to say that byes are at a "disadvantage"?

vote daoud IMO!
I really dont want to overrule other people's votes by voting more than once.

I also do not want to get lynched, and I am town. I view starting one step closer to lynch as a "disadvantage."

Yes, it's kind of weird phrasing, but townies don't want to get lynched either. I don't read that as really pointing one way or the other, whereas I read his comment about wanting to lynch seeds 10, 11, and 12 because they might have rigged the bracket that we have been told by mods was random as a townie thing. It shows...unhealthy paranoia about things that cannot be true?


Like +1


On October 11 2012 14:38 da0ud wrote:
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On October 11 2012 13:14 kushm4sta wrote:
@daoud

On October 11 2012 12:48 da0ud wrote:
Thank you, you are the only one i think who understood really what I meant. I hope you are not using me.

so lol. Clarify how he can be using you?


Well, as he was the only one really supporting me, he could easily get my trust and getting me to follow his lead on who to vote against, etc.
If he was mafia, then that would be another bullet for the mafia team (ie : getting a townie to follow their voting pattern).
Maybe what i say doesn't make sense, but :
* Let say we are 9 townies, 3 mafia.
* One of the mafia supports the "weird" guy (who is the only one who reads the theme of the game :D)
* Let's assume this guy is now 40% following the conviction of the manipulator.
* Town is now made of 3.4 mafia vs 8.6 townies, and the plague is spreading.

But I am not that dumb (or am I ?), I'll make decisions by myself.


On October 14 2012 22:26 da0ud wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 21:51 kushm4sta wrote:
On October 11 2012 14:38 da0ud wrote:
* Let say we are 9 townies, 3 mafia.
* One of the mafia supports the "weird" guy (who is the only one who reads the theme of the game :D)
* Let's assume this guy is now 40% following the conviction of the manipulator.
* Town is now made of 3.4 mafia vs 8.6 townies, and the plague is spreading.

This is first time scum?
Yeah math can be an indication of scum wanting to appear active, but keep in mind this was an explanation that I requested. I don't think first time scum would try to fake this level of newbie paranoia.

On October 11 2012 15:14 da0ud wrote:
Out of topic question : are you all in bed ?

I will be super not busy for the next 4hrs. Please ALL wake up !!

Look how eager he is to interact. As scum I would think he'd be more afraid.


Haha.


The alien invaders "joke" is just..... idk. Later on he said it was an attempt to get discussion moving but I do not see how he could expect anyone to take that idea seriously. Then he talks about "mini scum"..... just wtf once again. Da0 what were you talking about with mini scum?

Another point against him is that he laid down 9 votes on sandroba. That's already been addressed by people on both sides of the da0 debate but it still stands as a fact. He talked about his vote for sand and here was my initial take on his post:

+ Show Spoiler +
On October 14 2012 16:51 thrawn2112 wrote:
yeah the bolded part just screams noob mafia

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On October 14 2012 15:58 da0ud wrote:
Sorry just caught up on the chat and am currently hiking close to china border so poor network.

One first thing on my vote against San is at the time as default choice between two people I found scummy.
I found more content on sand than on the lurker ON. And at the time I put my votes there was already 11 votes on san. I was following the crowd.
Overnight the defense of Sand got pretty intense and sure would I have shifted my votes towards ON, not that it would have made a difference anyway.
Even if it is not confirmed I am fairly sure Sand is town cause he put his votes on ON to go to the final which would not make sense for a scum to push another scum to face him in finals.
At this stage I am pretty sure as well mementoss is scum. I already put it as second scum read from the round of 4 but now put him as top read.


Ok you voted for sandroba because:

"One first thing on my vote against San is at the time as default choice between two people I found scummy."

but here are the most recent cases of you talking about either of them:

Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 11:21 da0ud wrote:
ON moves on then not then again.
Now I am pretty sure at least one town is in the finals. Let's hope there are not two of them and we find the scummy one


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On October 13 2012 11:18 da0ud wrote:
I see as well that Sand voted 7 times against ON to make him move on, when himself was already doomed over Djo.
Hence ON and Sand cannot both be scums. It is actually a good result to have Sand vs Hopeless


So please show me where you found ON scummy. In fact it seems like you weren't "thinking" ON was scum... your reason for voting him was always policy related:

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On October 13 2012 11:03 da0ud wrote:
I wanted ON over Hopeless because of ON inactivity and actually ON has posted a lot of good things and but effort in his defense. There is more content to be expected from him to help us get a better read on him in the future.
I do want Sand > Djo which is the case right now. From what i said earlier I dont think either that Djo and Hopeless can both be mafia, hence at least we are saving one valuable town with constructive agrumentation.


Oh and I'm not really convinced about memtoss.... I don't buy that he was bussing ON. His votes for ON came at a time when a bus would have been extremely stupid or extremely clever and I doubt he's capable of either. I think he was the first person to actually vote ON. Maybe a scum memtoss would have figured that sand is getting lynched no matter what but I doubt he'd have taken that risk.



Also, he was who Sandroba most wanted us to kill, and from I can tell it's the same deal with ET. Both of those guys are dead. Sandroba's lst words about da0 were:

On October 14 2012 16:57 sandroba wrote:
Just lynch da0ud, then prplhz, then you figure the rest out if the game is not over.


The only reason why I think he could be town is because his scumhunting posts show a lot of townie paranoia. Like a lot. And this being his first game that would make sense for him to be overly paranoid. And he has shown pretty consistent suspicion of memtoss but eh, scum or town would do that.

So for now he's gonna stay at number 3 spot,on my list and will possibly move up higher because I'm not confident that he's scum but there is so much against him (his posts seem forced, he was sandroba's and et's lynch choice, he voted 9 for sandroba)that it'd be dumb to let it slide. Also I think a do0 flip would be extremely useful.

As for austin.... bleh. I've played 1 game with him (town austin) and I've obsed a couple of his town games and he just seemed so much more straightforward and useful than he's being in this game. His word count is still really high but his post just seem way fluffier than what I'd come to expect from him. Also I still can't get over the vote sharing thing from D1. I can not understand how any town player would do that.... first of all that means that you don't trust your own judgement which I don't think that'd be the case with a town austin, and it also means that you have almost confirmed town reads in the people you're giving the votes to. He did it on D1... could he really have been so sure that kush and I were town at that point? Also, at the time he made the offer I believe kush was strongly in favor of lynching sandroba, and I was on the fence but I'd been the main person pushing sand's case all game. I am not convinced that town austin would have shared votes like that.

As for hiro, he got the 2 spot on my list basically because of process of elimination. I don't have the slightest town read on him, nor do I have the slightest scum read. That is very worrying and in the past when there's a player that I'm not really concerned with because they are off the radar, big surprise they end up being scum. I'll look through his filter next.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
October 17 2012 06:54 GMT
#1226
da0 those points are horrible... it looks like you've just gone through my filter with intent on finding me scum beforehand just so kush will lay off your case.

Am I really deserving of #2 spot on your scumread list because of those reasons? Like of all the scumhunting you've done so far this is the most laughable. Like they're so laughable I can't even begin to think how to respond to them. First you say I've voted for town people... well guess what that's what happens in mafia. Then you say I switch to ON... care to explain what was so scummy about the timing of me switching? As far as I remember I was in the thread almost all day willing to talk to anyone about sand/ON.... look at the starting point when I first voted for sand round 4 and read until I voted ON, and even went to lengths to get austin to put votes onto ON for me... and tell me if you still don't think that was a genuine change of opinion. On your 2nd point... how can you assume that I was trying to suggest anything? You're saying I was trying to suggest that I'm vanilla town... well maybe that statement looks like it came from a VT.... because it came from a VT. For point #3, just lol. You're starting with the assumption that I'm scum and then forming your argument to support it.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
October 17 2012 06:59 GMT
#1227
da0 you've flip flopped so amazingly hard with your read on me and the justifications you gave for your switch were so bad it makes me suspect you're just doing it so that kushy won't call you scum
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
October 17 2012 07:04 GMT
#1230
On October 17 2012 16:00 da0ud wrote:
You are not #1.
In point 2) I don't assume you are VT, you assume your actions were quick, while actually mafia people would actually need some time to discuss who they want to kill.
3) as you say in this game we can turn every single post in a perfect town read to a perfect scum read, depending on the initial state of mind.


i have almost no idea what you're trying to say here and how it relates to the argument at hand
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
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