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On October 15 2012 06:44 thrawn2112 wrote: i'm very confident on da0 being scum, and i think it's somewhat likely prplhz is too so that doesn't leave much room for other scumreads. Also ON voted djo so there's that... That's a good point. I brought it up because he was one of the vote dumpers on 1der, but if ON wanted to panic vote anyone, he didn't have to pick a teammate. | ||
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On October 14 2012 11:02 prplhz wrote: well at least i don't have to bother with defending myself now What exactly is this post supposed to mean? | ||
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On October 15 2012 07:17 prplhz wrote: was pretty sure i moved lynch from sand to ON but apparently austin promised some votes to whoever the fuck or something like that prplhz. really. On October 14 2012 09:28 austinmcc wrote: It's more just ... if we're going to kill one, and I don't really think either is super scummy, I'd rather take the safer lynch. I want a townsand around more, and I want a scumON around less, so ... I'm more willing to lynch ON. On October 14 2012 09:52 HiroPro wrote: im here. We should lynch ON. On October 14 2012 10:28 thrawn2112 wrote: I still don't understand/agree with your rationale for doing this but lay 'em onto ON On October 14 2012 10:50 kushm4sta wrote: austin vote ON for me please. im changing my mind about sandroba lynch Look at all of these players putting votes onto ON before you. and you have the gall to say that you changed the lynch? As late as 10:45 you were saying this stuff: On October 14 2012 10:45 prplhz wrote: questionable skill is doing nothing for an entire day and then coming back and acting all indignant about it. On October 14 2012 10:46 prplhz wrote: dude, if you were town you wouldn't be in this situation. do you ever get votes as town? You're not stupid. I've played enough games with you to know that. Do you actually believe that you helped move the lynch off of sandroba? Honestly? | ||
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On October 15 2012 07:59 prplhz wrote: i was the final votes so get the fuck out You know as well as I do that that only matters if the final votes are the tipping point. Let's look at the voting record a bit. thrawn - sand 5 - 5-0 hope - sand 6 - 11-0 da0ud - sand 9 - 20-0 MMt - ON 5 - 20-5 kush - sand 1 - 21-5 austin - ON 3 - 21-8 thrawn - sand 0 - 16-8 prplhz - sand 8 - 24-8 HiroPro - ON 5 - 24-13 thrawn - ON 5 - 24-18 austin - ON 6 - 24-21 10:30 kush - ON 1 - 23-22 10:50 Let's take stock of the situation here. Sandroba is leading by 1 vote, but Austin still has 3 votes remaining. If Austin used his final 3 votes on ON (which it was pretty clear he was going to do), then the final score would be 23-25. Sandroba was going to live whether or not you did anything; in fact if you did nothing, it would leave you terribly exposed. Therefore when you did this: prplhz - ON 8 - 15-30 10:52 austin ON 9 - 15-33 10:56 You weren't saving sandroba from anything; austin had him covered already. You were merely trying to cover your tracks at the very last second possible. | ||
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I wasn't around for the round either and had left a scumread on sandroba as my send-off, but you don't see me trying to take credit where it clearly isn't due. | ||
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In this case, you did the last minute vote switch that isn't actually a hammer. I don't think you're going to win this game. | ||
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On October 15 2012 08:21 prplhz wrote: okay can you freak hiro out some more then so he'll give me the god damn potato What are you going to do with it? You already said your scumreads are da0ud and hiro; if we want da0ud dead we'll just give it to him, and killing hiro is out of the question. The only reason why I can see you asking for it is you have some wonky role that will fuck us over. No thanks. | ||
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i don't know if austin is town | ||
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On October 15 2012 03:23 kushm4sta wrote: I don't think I get this potato mechanic. Whoever has the potato when the mods randomly decide that the round is over gets lynched? Prpl and douad pass it back between yourselves I guess? I feel bad for the mods who have thought up all these crazy lynch mechanics that won't get to be used. | ||
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1. If you're town and you hide, then the scum will just give the bomb to a different townie then you, no benefit to hiding. 2. If you're scum and you hide, then we will lynch you in the future (if we can lol). | ||
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On October 15 2012 11:07 kushm4sta wrote: this is ridiculous that the conversation about it is even this exhaustive... dao and prpl back and forth. let scum dig their own graves. Why the fuck is hiro still holding it.. just give it to purpl there is no downside. ^ Hiro please pass unless you have a better reason not to. | ||
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I do find it amusing that you're trying to threaten me or something? | ||
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On October 15 2012 16:10 da0ud wrote: This case is a prty good summary of my feelings on mmt. Especially the part where he gives slight deference to ON. That's one of those more subtle things that's actually quite important; he didn't out and out defend ON, sure, but his language in saying "brings up pretty good pts", "looking forward to what he has to say" is just strange as opposed to his dismissive attitude toward other player.+ Show Spoiler + Let me put some of my thoughts on Mementoss down : 1) My first scum read on him was by looking at the way he could have tried to hide his action by being the one voting on the most people after round one and two. 4 different people including Sand who was town (two votes) and kush as well who is the one is consider the towniest currently. He has been changing his attitude : voting kush in the first round and then not following it by voting sand in second round. Or voting Djo in first round and then switching it up by going for ET in round two. 2) in the finals he did probably hide his votes by putting them on ON when San was leading 20-0. Changing his mind later on and putting votes on Sand when ON was catching up would have looked too very odd. 3) He has never been attacking directly ON, kind of defending him on posts and saying San is scummier. On October 11 2012 02:24 Mementoss wrote: 1. Mementoss: Town 2. OriginalName: Has been active after the game has started and chose not to participate in any discussion. Other than that nothing. Seems pretty scummy. Already ahead by 3 votes, I have no reason to use a vote on him right now. On October 12 2012 04:37 Mementoss wrote: 2. OriginalName Lurking pretty hard as well. Only has one post with content so far. But it brings up some pretty decent points. Still he needs more activity into the game, looking forward to what his thoughts are on the other players/matchups. Null. Not voting either. 3. Sandropa: I don't like his posting at all this game. As others have said, most of his posting has been here are my thoughts and gives no reasoning. ET defends him with his meta in this statement: "Sandroba is one of those super strong town players who is comparatively abysmal as a mafia player. When he's mafia, his lack of effort and interest becomes abundantly clear very quickly, sort of like Palmar but even moreso, IMO. Therefore, when he plays mafia I find that he runs active disruption to try and make as much chaos as possible until he inevitably gets shot/lynched. " Which I don't know how ET thinks hes following this, is he reading the same game I am? I think if anything he looks like mafia meta this game, lack of effort and interest seem prevelant in this game, and no attempt to find any scum at all. I would really like him to go through and put some pressure on him to persue some reads. Looks scummy to me. 2 votes. On October 13 2012 22:53 Mementoss wrote: Also ET I know you explained it but its still fucking weird that you LAST MINUTE dropped all your votes on ON, after expecting him for a modkill, not having a read on him. And having a scum read on hopeless all of the first 2 cycles, you save him last minute. Not sure which way I will be voting today yet. On October 14 2012 00:31 Mementoss wrote: I will be putting all my votes on ON unless he returns then Sounds like a defaults choice, when ON is afk and lead 20-0. 4) All of mementoss argumentation is otherwise based on saying he is town because he used his votes earlier, he am concerned some people kept some votes and are powerful in the finals. Good way to hide the fact he actually doesn't affect anything in the vote. He is really hiding behind the fact he makes no difference in the voting decisions. On October 11 2012 20:56 Mementoss wrote: It bothers me that these 3 players have the most power in town ON Hopeless Da0 None of them used any votes officially, and all have 10 votes remaining. Coming down to the wire any one of them as scum could sway the results. On October 11 2012 21:00 Mementoss wrote: If they're scum and that's their plan then they're pretty stupid because they'd be put in the spotlight for doing that. Not all 3, but it is very possible for one of them to be scum, gaining 2 extra votes after the first round could prove to be a great advantage. On October 11 2012 23:59 Mementoss wrote: I will not make any deadlines. And hopeless you look fine with the way you unvoted. I still don't like that particular players will have more influence on the final lynch. On October 12 2012 20:50 Mementoss wrote: => this previous post is the climax !I have the least amount of votes left. sheit. Everyone else is "saving" there votes, or voting so late that it doesn't matter so they don't have to vote and have all the power at the end. On October 13 2012 22:52 Mementoss wrote: prp: 8 Remain ON: 8 Remain da0: 9 Remain Austin: 9 Remain This^^ this right here is horseshit. Apathetic voting up towards the last round is unacceptable. I think everyone should only be using 5 of there votes 3 of these players alone trump the rest of the players in the game. Sandroba doesn't even have anyvotes to defend himself while ON has 9. Actually, everyone should only be using 1 vote, and we can get some sort of real full out majority going where everyone is involved. For the people with 0 votes left. ##Mementoss vote "Player Name" and I will use one of my votes towards giving you a voice in this lynch. I have a feeling scum has WAY too much control right now. But there is a possibility its too late anyways, this method should give more information to where people are at in their thought process. On October 14 2012 03:09 Mementoss wrote: THIS is what bugs me, your not strongly scummy on either YET you have 9 votes left? HMMM, I guess you shoulda used your votes to get who you thought was scum to the finals. You don't even give a shit. @1der, any reason why you are refraining from doing anything today? What's your opinion of the potato shenanigans? | ||
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On October 15 2012 22:38 prplhz wrote: @EchelonTee Why do you want to give the potato to da0ud when you like his case? Do you think that a scum da0ud would try to sell out a scum Mementoss at this point? Because I'm not sure who's scum lol | ||
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On October 16 2012 00:52 Djodref wrote: @ET If you are town and planning to give the potato back to him, why don't you hide ? The result is the same and you don't put yourself at risk at all. I don't understand why you would like to have the potato to give it back to him. I mean, right now, prplhz has the potato and I'm perfectly fine with it. The longer he has it, the happier I am. If I could use a hide to make him carry it longer I would. Because if I hide, he'll pass it to some other random townie, and it might explode on them (same chance of it exploding on me), and I don't know what that townie will do with the bomb, while I know exactly what I will do. This might be OMGUS, but prplhz has absolutely no reason to think that I am scum except for process of eliminiation, which is ludicrous to say the least. The fact that people are implying that they are unsure about prplhz or that they will explode other people boggles my mind a bit because of all of the absurd things prplhz has been saying. I've played with prplhz in a lot of games, and here a few things I've found: 1. he's a smart player: I remember when he N1 vigi shot scum. 2. he likes sheeping. I remember when he sheeped me even when I was a noobie, and when he sheeped everyone in Liar Game because he didn't know what was going on (busy with life I think?) 3. he usually responds to what people says In this game he's said some really outrageously dumb things that just sound so disingenuous. I don't care if people said that ON was null, or that he was just a lurker lynch. But to say that ON looks townie? Insanity. And to call me scum... for no reason? More insanity. And in this game when he had a chance to sheep sandroba and lay off him for just one cycle, he didn't take the opportunity. I don't see prplhz every doing this crap. Finally, when I and others call him out on his shit his response is to "fuck off lol". Are you goddamn serious. Is it risky for me to accept the potato? Obviously. But I'm fine with that to make prplhz completely and without question exposed as scum. If he sends it to me and I explode town, then prplhz should be revoked of his right to talk in thread until he finally gets the noose. | ||
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not explaining your reads at all ok man =/ | ||
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There's really nothing left to say on the matter, just when will the RNG decide the lynch. | ||
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