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da0ud
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- Get the majority of active people at this time to agree on who between prplz or mementoss should get the potato next. - If one hides, the other one automatically gets it. - If both hide, I will keep it and explode with it, while town will become a huge winner exposing them both. | ||
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da0ud
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On October 15 2012 23:29 Mementoss wrote: omg, that third point if your town is horrid. Just because you die that means your reads are correct? No it is both of you hiding who would make my reads correct. But I am sure you wont be hiding. | ||
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da0ud
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On October 15 2012 23:56 Hopeless1der wrote: The general consensus (which I agree with) is that one of da0ud or prplhz should be lynched. Personally, I think da0ud is more likely scum. The lynch mechanic itself has too much randomness to it for us to make a proper plan. At this point I have no intention of hiding. If I turn up with the potato, da0ud will be my first choice. Beyond that, I'd be looking for scummy things from other players. Things like MMT wanting us to ignore ON's flip to prove prplhz or da0ud being scum. They were both out in the first round. Other than the known information of scum flipping, it is extremely difficult to demonstrate scum motive for them when they are already safe from the lynch day1. The bulk of my read on da0ud revolves around his interaction with ON's situation. why woud you put me over prplhz or mementoss ? please explain me what part of my interaction with ON made up your read on me ? | ||
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da0ud
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On October 16 2012 00:18 kushm4sta wrote: Memetoss are you third party? trying to spread suspicion all over the place.. to me, to austin. After daoud and prplhz are gone if the game isn't over yet you are next. i thought the game was over ? are you gonna consider my case on mementoss? | ||
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On October 16 2012 08:29 kushm4sta wrote: lol i feel like such an idiot  You know how you can feel even more idiot. I am confused now how Hiro did hide all day long when focused was mostly put on prplhz, me and Mementoss. I concede as well how you could be called scum yourself Kush, by taking advantage on being narrowminded until one twonie (me or prplhz) does blow up. | ||
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da0ud
Hong Kong252 Posts
On October 16 2012 10:37 Mementoss wrote: at least I tried to get people off the tunnelling da0d and prplhz all day and wasting the day. I tried to get people to pass the potato around so that this wouldn't happen. I may not have had time to read through everything and flesh out some big thoughts. But I was trying to tell people to get off them and pass the potato. Without the potato passing people didn't have to do anything. we let hiro do nothing we let kush do nothing and "plan" the rest of the games lynches you'd think ET who had a townie status by almost all would do something other than lolz prplhz scum and post a picture god damn. The funny thing is in a mini its more than likely all these guys are scum. so anti town. oh well, lets learn from it and have a better day 2. I will look into hiro and kush specifcally before nights end. I doubt scum will want to kill me. But just incase. I agree and i did the same as you trying to avoid just being lynched because Kush said the game was over. I do maintain my view on you and the fact you are, Mementoss, my top scum read at the moment. There is now a lot of filters to look into because apart from Thrawn (95% confident) and propably Djodref (85% confident) all others could be scum. I put a special award to Kush and the do nothing and plan the rest of the game's lynches as Mem stated. On Day 2 except lynch prplz then Da0ud, no discussion, nothing added to the town discussion to find scums. End of Day 2, easy appology. Beginning of Night 2, lynch Da0ud then Mementoss, no discussion yet. But I am looking forward to your D3 explanation (I am not being sarcastic). | ||
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da0ud
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On October 16 2012 11:02 Djodref wrote: @Hiro Why were you holding onto the bomb at the beginning on day2 ? And why were you active in the thread only at that time ? I want you to post MORE. This is perfect non-sense hypothetical analysis. I did the same when saying scum people were not among the ones with a BYE in Day1. I am sure this was pure randomness. I have initially been considered scummy for that initial post. You should be considered less town for this last one ! | ||
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da0ud
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Please Hiro, explain yourself . Who are your scumreads currently ? | ||
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da0ud
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On October 16 2012 14:19 EchelonTee wrote: need to lynch da0ud. Very constructive. | ||
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da0ud
Hong Kong252 Posts
However when I did re-read his filter, I found that he has been pretty consistent, with trying to defend Sand early on in the round 2 and 3 and trying to get ON to advance by putting votes on him in round 3 and 4. He did go afterwards for lynching prplhz but everyone did so. I just wish you would explain more on who are you scumreads and why ? I put you as my third best town read behind Kush and Djo. | ||
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da0ud
Hong Kong252 Posts
In my opinion, you cannot be mafia because you have been so blindly going for a lynch on prplhz and me that it would obvious for others to lynch you when i get killed and you realize i am town. You actually did bring a lot to the thread until this potato thingy and I wish you can take the lead again in town side by side with Thrawn. Put you 4th townie, read due to your recent behaviour, but you were in my top 2 until being hands off and popping the champagne aready. | ||
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da0ud
Hong Kong252 Posts
I need to re-read their filters and see how to rank them. My guts tend to go for Hopeless over ET over Austin. I'll put more thoughts on that later. Currently my scum to town scale goes as below : 1) Mementoss 2) Hopeless 3) ET 4) Austin 5) Kush 6) Hiro 7) Djo 8) Thrawn I won't put myself in this list because I know I am town and if i ever put me #9, people will say I am trying to manipulate something. I don't even think I deserve to be ranked #9 because I am nowhere near being an ideal town. I won't put any excuse on me being noob. I am trying to focus now on scum hunting or emphasizing on town tells in order to get a more constructive discussion. Objectively speaking, I would actually rank myself somewhere like #4.5 in between Austin and Kush. | ||
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On October 17 2012 04:46 austinmcc wrote: da0ud, I need to ask you about your prplhz read yesterday. In looking over the D1 votes, you said: But later in D2, you said: You don't mention how you went from not being able to see how prplhz could be scum to how you were pretty sure he was scum with mementoss. Why and when did you become convinced prplhz was scum? Catching up on the thread now.... Before reactin on N2's closure and D3, I would like to reply to you first austin. 1) I got suspicious on prplhz : I do maintain that I got suspicious on prplhz and kush and austin. But there was not much against any of them, and actually my read was good when I said he changed Sand's fate. True, austin last 3 votes where supposed to go through as well but he pulled the trigger first in saving him. 2) Read him as scum afterwards : I did follow the lead of too many people afterwards bullying prplhz and I changed my mind too quickly. On top of that they made me change my mind on thinking he actually saved Sand first. I did read him as hiding his move before austin saves Sand himself. 3) Emphasizing of the scum read : His way of handling the potato situation was odd. He wanted to keep the potato (same as me) but for different reason. Nothing really constructive came out off his defense. He just wanted to keep it until he believed it would blow up and give it to ET. Not very town attitude to play it selfish like that. I wanted to have the potato as well but for different reasons. I felt doomed and wanted to launch some kind of regular lynching process on who majority wanted me to give the potato too. I thought as well the discussion was very poor at the time with many people taking a break and just thinking of lynching myself and prplhz. I thought it was good to commit suicide worst case, in order to force town to stop sleeping and focus on scum hunting again. | ||
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da0ud
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Not too sure actually what to think about that. I was actually pretty sure Thrawn would get killed, as he has been the most consistent at behaving town. On top of that he is a good player (in my modest opinion) so I thought it would have been a big hit to us in fighting for who are the real scumies left. I was not too sure where to put ET himself, but i was more on the slightly more scummy than town read. I came back in the office this morning with the thread open on his filter. I was starting to read it yesterday but didn't manage to find time to finish it before end of N2. I will finish it today and see if any clues on who could actually have stabbed him in the back. | ||
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da0ud
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On October 17 2012 12:18 Hopeless1der wrote: Have you read da0ud's filter? Or understood the Day 1 lynch mechanics? Austin pulls 3 SEQUENTIAL posts out of da0ud's filter (page 2). Guess he just left out the scummy bits. The level of flipflopping is unbelievable. I'll refrain from the rest of his filter for now. Lets start with ONE post above where austin did: -> da0ud wanted ON. Me and Djodref can't both be scum. Cool. FIVE MINUTES LATER (Austin's "defense" started here) EchelonTee votebombs at the last possible minute. So far so good, he's maintained his stance that he wanted ON and is happy I didn't get advanced. Defending ET...buddying townie? (WIFOM) Is this him being sad/upset? He's panicing now that things went awry. END AUSTIN'S DEFENSE Wait...+ Show Spoiler + Sandroba #1 to die. And I'm super duper town? Yeah right...(I am town...just not at the level he's blindly agreeing) ON and Sandroba cannot both be scum. Based on what he's said so far, I'm 99% town and sand is 99% scum. (or is my reading comprehension failing me?) Somehow that 99% sandroba scum read is no longer valid because...I disappeared? We KNOW sandroba flipped town and OriginalName flipped scum. Does this not strike you as a strange change of heart based on the past series of quotes? This entire series of quotes occured over less than a half hour. Moral of the story? Austin's defense of da0ud can suck it. Kill me first if you need to, I'll gladly trade 1-1. Wasn't I correct when I said I am 99% sure both Sand and ON are not scum together ? I didn't know which one to choose but at that time i went more for Sand for his original scum read on me when I know I am not and the fact the ON was more a lurking choice. Guess what Sand could not have been killed on N1 but I am sure my statement made mafia kill him cause Sand would have RULED town BIG TIME. | ||
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da0ud
Hong Kong252 Posts
On October 17 2012 12:48 Hopeless1der wrote: da0ud, you were correct, but when it was me vs sandroba, you were all but ready to pull the trigger on sandroba, at least that's how I interpret this quote: When the votes were finalized and it changed to ON vs sandroba: You were no longer so certain. I don't get how you could have such a drastic change in scumreads as town or lose your conviction to kill sandroba just because his opponent changed. I really could have just posted these two quotes as my counter to austin's defense of you. How to be sure on a scumread when only 75% of day1 has passed. I went with my first thoughts and happily stated facts that at least I was sure were correct. | ||
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da0ud
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@ Kush : I will look into why I do put Thrawn on top of my town list. | ||
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da0ud
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On October 17 2012 13:10 kushm4sta wrote: Are we playing the same game?? Why is thrawn so town? Because he doesn't act retardedly? That's enough to make you town now? Read his filter. He has contributed nothing. His only case was a bad one on SANDROBA, confirmed town, which he went back on extremely easily. Frankly I am baffled by this thrawn dickride. I want you to explain. If you do not explain adequately I will support your lynch. gogo. Keep in mind this: the people who seem the scummiest probably aren't scum. That is because they don't care about stopping themselves from looking scummy. They are just going to act however they want to act. Scum, however, will go out of their way to act town. @daoud explain your thrawn dickride You are right I think I am not really playing the same game. More like the paranoid game indeed. lol. Don't worry there is no language barrier, it is pretty much me being dumb and that's it. I have been working in HK for 5 yrs now mostly with native english speaking people (including Aussies and Kiwis). So I don't want you to put my stupidity in me not understanding what is happening. I am probably too lazy and busy in the morning too really read very carefully and take notes. I usually catch back on the thread in the morning when there is action at work. I try to do it as fast as possible otherwise there is no one to actually share views with me. I should read slower and more carefuly. But whatever... Thank to you, Kush, and thrawn himself to make me read entirely his filter. And there is not much in there. Thrawn you go from my first town read to second scum read. Here are the three main reasons : 1) Your votes in Day1 went for prplhz (town), Sand twice (town), Djo (very town-looking, again I will re-read his filter, but he makes very good cases). He initially votes Sand in the finals and when he sees suspicions onto ON he unvotes then changes to ON. 2) this post : On October 14 2012 11:06 thrawn2112 wrote: guys hurry up with the night actions I'm eager to learn about the new lynch mechanics Too naive, almost similar to mine where i imply the last one to act was scum. Here basically he implies I have nothing to do, or not much talking to do with my scum team, so hurry up => VERY VERY SCUMMY 3) this other post : On October 16 2012 21:11 thrawn2112 wrote: no I haven't (unless you count sk) so I have no idea. I'd either ask my mafia bros for advice the entire time or I'd just tell them to bus the shit out of me D1. or I might bus the shit out of them the whole game. When looking at action, no one votes on him so didn't ask his mates to bus the sh!t out of him. Did not bus the sh!t out of them either cause mostly accused or voted townies. Hence is actions are the opposite of what he PRETENDS he would do if he were scum. This is too big to be true. There is more to say but i will focus on others as well. Thanks Kush for waking me up, you going down my ladder I started already in Day2. | ||
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