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Hopeless1der
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Hopeless vs Sandroba (He felt sandroba was scum) but when it was ON vs sandroba he was no longer sure of anything. His change in tone and conviction is drastic and is not adequately justified. I see massive scum motivation in trying to avoid taking a definitive stance in order to gauge the town atmosphere and attempt to push for sandroba's mislynch. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
2-austinmcc 3-djodref 4-HiroPro 5-kushm4sta 6-thrawn2112 7-Mementoss 8-Hopeless1der Obviously I'm biased due to his case, but MMT has been berating us constantly for not actively pushing scumreads and I kept seeing him saying things that weren't true Day1 regarding voting on your own matchups. I sincerely doubt that a scumteam would allow him to continue to misunderstand the lynch mechanics like that, or that he'd be so careless if he were scum. Be back later, need to go do work for a change. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On October 18 2012 00:08 thrawn2112 wrote: What are you referring to with hopeless vs sandroba I don't recall that being a matchup It almost was one before ET's votebomb went through. Kita had to re-read his own rules to make sure. | ||
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Hopeless1der
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Hopeless1der
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On October 17 2012 16:01 thrawn2112 wrote: 1 da0ud 2 austin 3 hiro 4 hopeless1der 5 mementoss 6 Djodref 7 kushm4sta 8 thrawn2112 He said thread(s) [plural] for a reason. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On October 17 2012 06:24 HiroPro wrote: I wanted to be more in control/leading. Hasn't really worked out partly cause I haven't had time, partly cause I'm not sure exactly how to go about it. Hiro you really need to get your ass in here or explain your absences better. Your filter is currently smaller than mine is, and it doesn't give me the fuzzies all over.. What happened to the deadline post? | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On October 18 2012 05:50 austinmcc wrote: Currently at 1. Mementoss 2-7. Dudes 8. Me Thinking over mementoss's recent posts. Will reread games where I've accused him as town, as well as his scum games. If nobody is really screaming scum, then it feels likely likely that either Djoref or kush is scum for the R3 votes on hopeless1der vs. ON. Again though, mementoss fits the bill there because he says he would drop votes except the matchup's already going the way he wants it to. Not scummy on da0ud today. But he needs to keep contributing. Either there will be helpful stuff there OR he'll slip up. HiroPro replacing out leaves me with him feeling townie early on, and I'm interested in seeing what a fresh pair of eyes does with the thread. Still believe we have night actors. No way are kita/jingle being super sneaky in constantly saying "actionS" and "all actions" if nobody is taking night actions. Stay hidden. da0ud did the same thing mmt did with the R3 votes, and the way he did it seemed far more scummy to me. For the record I haven't given your most recent case on MMT a proper read and probably wont until I get home from work...so not until 4-6ish hours from now. | ||
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Hopeless1der
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Hopeless1der
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Ultimately, I'm currently more town on MMT but unwilling to support a lynch on austin today. I read da0ud as scummy and I also don't think he's a prime candidate for any upcoming NK's, whereas Austin, MMT, VE are all significantly more likely to get taken out by scum (assuming they aren't scum themselves, duh). Lynching da0ud is a better longterm plan for town imo as it cleans out sandroba/ET's read on him and I think it will narrow our reads a lot more than say lynching MMT or Austin. Yes, its scummy to do things for information alone, but then again, why was ON lynched instead of sandroba? People (not me) felt they would be able to tell sandroba from sandroba. Can anyone in this game say the same of da0ud? I'm revising my votes so that MMT and Austin get my 6/7 spots. I don't want either lynched today because MMT has started to put down some serious effort into the thread (scum motivated or not) and Austin, while tunneling, is still known to post walls of text from time to time. There is also the fact that VE has just replaced in and has yet to properly sit down and take a good look at this game I think. 1-da0ud 2-djodref 3-kushm4sta 4-VisceraEyes 5-Thrawn2112 6-Mementoss 7-Austinmcc 8-Hopeless1der djodref is up there because in isolation, he's a scummier looking player, but I feel I'm really forcing any connections I make between him and other players. Since I want to hold off on MMT/Austin, after da0ud I'm ranking in the order of who I would care least if they were to go missing. I don't think kush or VE are going to be anywhere close to getting lynched, and I may need to move djodref around to have a better shot at da0ud. Really tired, so I'll lay out the short version of why I want da0ud before I go to sleep:
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Hopeless1der
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On October 18 2012 23:37 da0ud wrote: I don't understand why people believed I could be scum because I did this scale ranking before we ended up having it for real in D3, but it was pure coincidence. It was just making sense for me to rank people versus the others. I have been reading more than talking, and not putting someone at the top of my scale for telling me i am dumb, bad and scum (sorry Thrawn in particular) - or you would all have been number one, Djo number 7, me number 8. After all, I still want to put Mementoss on the top of my scale, for his changes of mind, votes, as I stated in D2. I want to push Austin number two currently because he is the one that has the most chances of being lynched instead of me, and I know I should not be killed. Not too sure who will be 3 and 4 between Hopeless, Hiro/VE. Hiro/VE has not been too very active, I could not find a lot of scumhunting, but has been decently consistent. so I will put Hopeless over Hiro. Kush and Thrawn will occupy the ranks 6 and 5. They do bring a lot to the discussion and are the ones that make me feel the most how useless I can be sometimes. Scum people would not do that, it would not be beneficial because me behaving badly does create interference which is good for the scum team. Djo ranked 7, he has made good cases, and did help the town to start changing their mind about me. 1) Mementoss 2) Ausin 3) Hopeless 4) Hiro 5) Thrawn 6) Kush 7) Djo 8) Da0ud I guess I'm up there by elimination, but you don't seem to really have much of a read on me da0ud. Also, your reasons for having Austin that high, while understandable, are not helpful. Do you think he is town or scum? I don't care how likely he is to get lynched, I care what you think about his alignment. This post just makes me want to lynch you even more. | ||
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Hopeless1der
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On October 19 2012 00:01 Djodref wrote: I'm going to bed, I'll be here for the deadline. I'm quite sure that ON has been bussed. Please have a look at Hiro's filter and imagine him with the intent of bussing ON. You guys are putting too much importance on the matchup Hopeless/ON. It could have just been a town/town fight for all we know. You mean scum/scum? | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On October 19 2012 00:32 thrawn2112 wrote: I don't know if there's any merit in the sandroba nk speculation with regards to people who are aware of his ability being likely scum... his veteran status was something that was brought up over and over again during D1 so everyone in the gamewould be aware of it. Yeah it was a big point in why people wanted to lynch ON over him in the first place. But now it WIFOM's his da0ud hunch a bit. On October 19 2012 00:21 Djodref wrote: Ok, it's just that I'm tired of explaining myself over and over again for these votes. I'm sorry, I really don't want to get mislynched for them. So let me ask all of you what do you think about my explanations for these votes ? I personally don't have an issue with the way you voted. I handpicked you to advance for the explicit purpose of having you attack me so I could get a better read on you. I thought you were town then, but I don't like the way you keep pushing Hiro/VE and I don't agree with your defense of da0ud. IF da0ud flips scum, you and austin are my next highest reads due to your defending him. | ||
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Hopeless1der
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On October 19 2012 05:07 kushm4sta wrote: Time to go on the lynch Austin campaign trail @hopeless1der Where is your townread of austin coming from? I see your biggest scumreads are djodref and daoud. From this it seems that you are very harsh on newbies, even though you have done some newb scummy things yourself. I implore you, reconsider what you think is scumminess might just and probably is newbness. Can you see a newb acting how daoud is acting? I can. Djodref: look how easily he posts, not his big cases, but the little ones in between. He has no fear of slipping up, no fear of sharing what's on his mind. I never said I had a town read on austin, he's just low in my list because I'd rather lynch into da0ud first and didn't want austin picking up stray votes along the way. MMT and austin were at each other's throats for a while, VE sees scummy scum scum from austin, but again, I'm not comfortable with my read of him. I'd rather wait another day and give VE some time to hopefully hammer some sense into the thread after that D2 debacle. I have a scum read on da0ud and a scummy read on djodref. After Austin's case on you, I have lots more connection theories to pursue, and now that he semi-claimed, I have even more reason to want to keep him alive. I expect him to deadline his claim post in the event he gets NK'd tonight, unless this lynch turns silly. For today, I think that if you are scum, one of da0ud and djodref is also scum. In fact, I'm moving you to #2 and djodref down to #3. 1-da0ud 2-kushm4sta 3-djodref 4-VisceraEyes 5-thrawn2112 6-mementoss 7-austinmcc 8-hopeless1der | ||
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Hopeless1der
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On October 18 2012 04:32 kitaman27 wrote: Day Three Votecount 28 da0ud 28 austin 25 hiro 16 kushm4sta 14 hopeless1der 14 Djodref 10 mementoss 9 thrawn2112 In the event of a tie that cannot be broken by the first player to reach critical mass, we will remove the most recent vote and re-tally, until a winner has been decided. Unofficial Votecount 46 austinmcc 38 djodref 38 kushm4sta 34 da0ud 34 visceraeyes 33 thrawn2112 31 hopeless1der 31 mementoss I did not work out the tiebreakers since austin was leading | ||
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Hopeless1der
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On October 19 2012 07:14 kitaman27 wrote: Day Three Update 41 daoud 40 austin 40 kush 38 djodref 38 VE 34 thrawn 29 mementoss 28 hope I went through this twice, but it probably wouldn't hurt to have someone double check to verify the vote count. 45 minutes remain Austin alone: MMT 5 VE 8 djo 7 da0ud 7 austin 1 thrawn 8 hopeless 2 kush 8 Total: 46 What's going on kita... | ||
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Hopeless1der
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Hopeless1der
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Unofficial Votecount 46 Austinmcc 39 Kushm4sta 38 djodref 36 VisceraEyes 33 thrawn2112 32 Hopeless1der | ||
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Hopeless1der
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On October 19 2012 07:43 Hopeless1der wrote: k well...my updated Unofficial Votecount 46 Austinmcc 39 Kushm4sta 38 djodref 36 VisceraEyes 33 thrawn2112 32 Hopeless1der ...How did 'enter' do that while I was mid post... Unofficial Votecount 46 Austinmcc 39 Kushm4sta 38 djodref 36 VisceraEyes 33 thrawn2112 32 Hopeless1der 32 Mementoss 29 da0ud | ||
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Hopeless1der
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