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can we lynch memetoss for this?
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Potentially kush given recent developments? And those would be? | ||
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Some examples: + Show Spoiler + On October 17 2012 09:42 Djodref wrote: Regarding today's mechanics, I think we should run our majority lynch in parallel. It's interesting to get the list so people should put them in the voting thread regardless of who is going to be lynched today (according to the lists). With the parallel majority lynch (running until smthing like deadline - 1H), we decide what is the real target of the lynch today and we modify the lists in order to get the right guy lynched. I'm betting right now that it's going to be the same guy anyway. I propose a majority vote for this idea ! I'm in ! ##Vote Hopeless On October 17 2012 20:06 Djodref wrote: + Show Spoiler + I've been reading the whole daoud turnover about thrawn just before and it made me regret my previous night post+ Show Spoiler + On October 17 2012 01:00 Djodref wrote: Why we shouldn't lynch Daoud My main point here is that we have made a mistake while lynching prplhz and I'm afraid that we might do it again if we were to lynch Daoud. First I would like to compare the reasons why we want to lynch them. + Show Spoiler + I've tried to analyze the reasons which lead to the D2 prplhz's debacle. At that time, prplhz felt like the perfect lynch candidate. Mainly because of the following reasons
Now let's take a look at the reasons advanced for daoud's lynch
If you see anything thing big that I have missed, I would enjoy to discuss it. Anyway, there are some common reasons between these two and I think that some of them are just not so good. I'm not saying that they are not valid but I don't think they should carry too much weight in our scumhunt. I'm going to elaborate the push of Sandroba and the association with ON in the next spoiler. Why pushing Sandroba was not so relevant + Show Spoiler + Among us, we have been a lot to suspect Sandro during the first stages of D1: he didn't randomly advance to the finals. When you look at his filter until the following post, he looks pretty scummy. On October 13 2012 16:00 sandroba wrote: I'm not going to fight against this lynch. This is simply too stupid to fight over and I don't feel like it. If you people stopped one second to look at this thread you would come to realise that is simply no way I'm scum purely based on how this situation came to be. Also there is no case against me. I refuse to defend myself against the ignorant uninformed opinion of a bunch of riotters. This is no way to play mafia. You have to look at the intricacies and not follow the mob rule that is usually driven by scum. I leave you sheep to your fate. My reads so far is that ET austin hiro and kush are town. I honestly don't know anymore about ON cuz I would expect him to try to at least keep apearances as scum. This djodref is either very dumb or scum. You would never as town (and inteligent) feel that a person that is standing up to you against the majority trying to lynch would be scum. Prpl and mementos are prob scum. I've been wanting to lynch him at this point and it was the same for Thrawn, Kush, and Daoud. I've haven't been here to witness the rise of town Sandro later on but I think it was totally ok to have wanted to lynch him at that time. We shouldn't have blamed prplhz for this and we should not blame anybody for this. After that, prplhz didn't realize his mistake fast enough and I guess that daoud wasn't even here to see the real town Sandro as he missed all the deadlines. Regarding the Daoud's defense regarding his vote, I would agree that it looks pretty bad. I don't want to give him total clearance because of this precise point but given the general level of his posts and his awareness of the game, I can imagine him as total town newbie with clumsy defense. Why the association case with ON is not so relevant + Show Spoiler + ON was a lurker. I don't know what we can guess from his few interactions with the world. The two votes he threw on me were not even useful, I don't see any purpose for them. They might have been real panic votes, maybe not. We don't know. Same, anybody could say anything about a lurker. Mafia can try to bus or to save. Town can say scummy or townie (see prplhz as an extreme example). The thing is that he was a lurker. We cannot have anything tangible from this. The final reasons to lynch Daoud + Show Spoiler + If we discard the previous reasons, here is what is left
I think these reasons are not a making a solid enough case. He could be newb scum or he could be newb town but my guts are leaning towards town when I read his filter. Especially when he has tried to improve his play during potato day. Regarding the potato, prplhz didn't pass it and it was not town in my eyes but maybe you see things differently when you have everybody on your back. One last thing. When I'm looking back at D2, I have a feeling this day was wasted. Because we had two obvious targets, we didn't think about if they were the right targets or not. Please think how easy it would be to push such mislynches when no one is thinking twice. Mafia totally got us and I bet they were enjoying nice holidays. Conclusion Daoud is looking scummy but he is not the right target. I have a strong feeling that he is in fact a newbie that is going to be mislynched. I would prefer than we not lynch him and focus on the right targets starting from tomorrow. I'm going to present them to you in my following posts. I have been preparing this post after prplhz tragic explosion, and I was wondering if daoud could be the scum of two like I've stated here. On October 15 2012 18:18 Djodref wrote: /snip About prplhz and daoud My feeling is that we definitively have a scum between the two but not that the two of them are scum. Honestly, if they were both scum, I would expect them to concede right now. I'm really more confident that prplhz is the scum out of them two. I would be happy to see them passing the potato to each other  I've realized that we didn't think about prplhz lynch enough and thus I have considered carefully why we should lynch Daoud. At this time, I found out that he was more likely to be a mislynch than anything else, hence my night post. Unfortunately, his behavior right now at he beginning has made me doubt again. I was wondering if he could really be scum or not while re-reading the whole thread and I came to the conclusion that he is certainly a mislynch ! I'll elaborate in my next post. It's a bit WIFOMy but I think it's good I would expect first time djo to think way more about his posts and be more reserved. Mementoss I don't like your case on djo. On October 18 2012 07:34 Mementoss wrote: In conclusion recap: 1Hard defense on Ro3 ON vs Hopeless, uses all votes 2Hard defense on ON , trying to convince people to vote sandroba 3puttin doubt on ON lynch 4Double standards on different lurkers, ON vs Hiro/hopeless/me early 5weak case on prplhz, doesn't attempt to look outside prplhz and da0d even though he thinks da0d is town and has a good chance at being lynched 6Trying really hard to look town and harmless, calling himself a noob and bad and smiley faces. 7Isn't pushing his town read day 3 or his scum reads 8pretty much has been floating by without suspicion because of ON's panic votes. WIFOM, ON coulda been bused and coulda been used to make djo look townie. 1 I think it's a mistake to read too much into the votes d1. It's very possible no scum had votes on sandroba, or they did and then took them off when they saw the tide changing, like thrawn. 2 This is understandable from a town perspective. 3 same as 2 4 Perhaps there are inconsistencies in his idea, but I expect that from newb town. 5 The urge to sheep was strong that day lol. It seemed like a really sure thing and prpl wasn't helping with threatening to give it to ET. 6 His smiley face usage is consistent with his last game. He also called himself noob and bad many times. 7 Probably comes from his lack of confidence? It seems like he is very happy when people agree with him though. 8 WIFOM. He COULD be scum from his voting record. But look at the tone and the ease of his posts. ##DEFENSE DJODREF | ||
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VE, me, prob memetoss. Everyone give your thoughts on this guy please. | ||
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Would you help kill austin today? | ||
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how are you this evening? woke up in the middle of the night. going back to bed but I just thought I'd comment of what you said. me write 1 liners without reasoning? well that is a huge misrepresentation. I have a rebuttal post of mmts attack on djodref. It's not the length of his posts that make him not scum exactly. It's the length and tone of a certain type of post. Jacob wrote long posts, but they were just him rambling filter analysis. Djodref will out of no where make paragraph long posts sharing his thoughts about what is currently going on in the thread. He seems COMFORTABLE sharing whatever is on his mind whenever. His filter reads like town ignoring his long cases. Read through it, it really does. So I'm currently so full of shit I have to be scum? I'm sorry but what have I done to make you angry? And give me an example of where I don't give my reasons. Who do you want to lynch thrawn? Stop responding to djos stupid questions and start talking about your topscumread, whoever you think that is atm. | ||
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What scum would be reckless enough to say shit like that? Think of the level of mindgames required for dao to be scum. | ||
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On October 18 2012 20:11 thrawn2112 wrote: Ok here are some things I want to see before lynch Austin talking more about mementoss We haven't had enough of this already? | ||
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If i had to guess, I would guess ON was going to get modkilled and I think scum knew that already. | ||
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On October 18 2012 21:13 thrawn2112 wrote: If you're going to admit to ignoring everything I say then you may as well claim scum... you can't possibly be 100% convinced that I'm scum so either go ahead and claim scum or stop acting like scum kush. + Show Spoiler + And yes your post did serve as a wake up call. I've had kinda a shitty game and I haven't been taking it too seriously, especially after the D1 flip. I think yesterday or so was the first time I've been truly sober since the game's started. How am I ignoring everything you say? Actually I am paying attention to everything you say moreso than anyone else. Also you are creating a double standard here. You say you are going to ignore me so you can get back to scumhunting, but when I don't answer one of your questions then I'm suddenly scum? To answer your queston: daoud is more of a null read then a town read. Honestly I am stumped with how interpret his behavior. I would be more surprised if he flipped scum than if he flipped town though. My list as it stands is not taking into account who is going to get lynched. If i have to change it later somehow to ensure the lynch of austin and prevent the lynch of daoud, I will. | ||
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On October 18 2012 21:23 thrawn2112 wrote: Oh and the passive aggressive name dropping shit is annoying too but no reason to comment on that either. Can you comment on it real quick because I have no idea what it is that you are talking about? | ||
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I do love to bus as scum lol. I have spoken about my Austin suspicions and I will put them down formally when I get home. but mostly ve stole my ideas lol. so a lot of it is what.he said | ||
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First: Thrawn you were scum in LC right? It's over now. | ||
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He endlessly bussed memetoss. He defended daoud, sure, but memetoss was his only SCUMREAD for the whole game. If austin was town he would have A) looked for other scum, and B) considered the possibility that maybe memetoss wasn't scum. This is compounded by the fact that in the beginning of the game he said "I ALWAYS THINK MEMETOSS IS SCUM." Well if he thinks that about himself, why wouldn't he also think hmm maybe this read is wrong. He has changed his mind about it, completely. Now memetoss is behind me and kush. However, before people started pointing out how scummy it looked, MEMETOSS was the only person austin was talking about. His suspicion of me and djodref is basically only based on our voting patterns d1. -Austin said he always thinks memetoss is scum, because he was setting us up to believe his tunnel mementoss scumstrat. Except it backfires when you think about it more. But it is something you might say as scum if you were planning on busing someone and looking town doing it. -Austin, also Thrawn, are obsessed with d1 lynch votes. They are trying to make the fullest out of their bus on ON by making it seem like a certainty that scum voted for sandroba. I will talk hopefully more clearly and more detailed about the whole d1 lynch later. | ||
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At the end what made me change my mind is sandroba coming back and convincing me of his towniness. I actually had done a lot of meta research on sandroba, And he seemed like he actually gave a shit, which is very different from how scum sandroba acts. As scum I like to bus hard and early. That was neither. | ||
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On October 18 2012 23:40 thrawn2112 wrote: My read of him in D3 is that he is being dumber than what I expect from him and he's being more of an asshole which are both qualities of scum kush. D3 I'm being dumber? Why because I suspect you and Austin? Also Austin said I reverted lol. Very not true. You guys are misrepresenting my play I think Austin says I am starting to look like I did in LC? No I'm really not, especially not for the beginning of the game when austin was there. And I looked like that because I didn't put in the time to make cases. And I was town that game. So where are the examples and more importantly what is your point? You are basically misrepresenting my play by making it seem like I match the meta of another game in which I was town... and that's why you suspect me. And your case against me is based on that AND how I didn't want to lynch ON. Scummy and weak case. OH BTW your is plural, it's talking about austin and thrawn. Austin had one post suspecting thrawn, (something thrawn said "rubbed him the wrong way" lol) and nothing was ever mentioned about that again. Now they are butt buddies who agree on everything and are trying to get me lynched together. | ||
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Either djo or me had to be scum because we were both defending ON and pissed when ET pushed him through? | ||
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On October 19 2012 02:34 thrawn2112 wrote: Other than the finals, ON vs Hopeless was the most contested matchup in D1. Up until the confirmed town pushed ON through, hopeless was set to advance. Hopeless can't be scum because out of the two, it makes more sense for mafia to buss ON than to bus hopeless. All those things strongly suggest that mafia was trying to push hopeless into the finals instead of ON. Thrawn I don't want to be the victim of more of your ad hominem attacks, and I'm not trying to level any at you when I say this. But that reasoning up there is absolutely, 100% retarded. There was town motivation for voting for 1der over ON. Maybe scum didn't have to vote 1der because town was already doing it. If djo drops a bunch of votes down, then I say that I'm gonna vote bomb 1der through, why would scum risk also voting for 1der? It makes more sense to bus 1der than ON? No I don't think so. ON was totally afk. Why wouldn't scum want to bus him? If he's going to get modkilled from inactivity, a bus is win-win. I think you are scum because this seriously sounds like some bullshit made up reasoning that you are endorsing. Do you forget that YOU voted for sandroba in the beginning of the day. Austin voted for no one and was going to give his votes to you are me, (two people that wanted to vote sandroba, hmm). You switched off sandroba mid day, but it was essentially a bus with no consequence because 1) he was afk and 2) he still had enough votes to get lynched at that time. | ||
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