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On October 11 2012 11:18 HiroPro wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2012 11:07 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2012 11:02 HiroPro wrote:
hey this thing where we vote in secret in the voting thread and don't say what we're doing in the main thread? that's not ok. It was deadline, its not like anyone could have done anything about it. The only thing I did there was let you push kush into Ro8. The rest of my votes were redundant and I'm interested to see how you pursue kush into the next round. pre-edit:=\ ON trying to deadline as well...interesting. Why the apparent scumread (and completely unnecessary vote) on djodref? kush was already advancing even if you left your vote on prplhz - he was the higher seed. But in any case, I'm talking more about austin and thrawn. I didn't even realize until the last second from what thrawn said that he was putting another vote on prplhz.
I feel the need to point out that prplhz would have gone through, not kush. Higher seed mechanic only applies to 0-0 ties. I feel like this is a legitimate misunderstanding, but its this kind of shit that leads to things like my snarky opening post this game.
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On October 11 2012 11:30 OriginalName wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2012 11:22 sandroba wrote:On October 11 2012 11:08 OriginalName wrote:On October 11 2012 11:05 thrawn2112 wrote:
your phone died for like 24 hours and you just now manage to make it back right at deadline? There is this wonderful thing called real life that happens to often impede on things, by the time I was free to post and take time to read my phone was dead and I had to wait until i got off my rather late shift at work and communicate with this thread. ON why the votes on djoref? panic votes~~~
You panicked twice? dafuq...also completely unnecessary. Why were you willing to throw away votes like that?
I'll ask again since no one responded last time:
WILL YOU BE AVAILABLE AROUND THE DEADLINE (YES/NO)? PLEASE SELECT ONE RESPONSE.
Hopeless1der: Yes
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Hi Guys,
Sorry for being late to reply but timezone differences is not easy to manage.
First regarding the very "weird" part of my post regarding "Alien Invaders". I don't know if my english is that bad and I cannot read properly but I thought the introduction post was putting a theme :
On October 10 2012 11:00 kitaman27 wrote:
Day 1
Ladies and gentlemen, you have all been gathered here today to participate in a game of epic proportions! Alien invaders have arrived from Moron Mountain and have challenged you to a high stakes contest. These aliens must be identified before they kidnap you one by one to serve as their entertainment slaves.
Anyway this is not very important.
The rest of my post was indeed made to get some action going on, because we could be talking about rules for a long time, but we need to me more focus on finding who is scum who is not. Obviously I won't be voting blindly to make seeds 10, 11, 12 move on.
On October 10 2012 19:31 Djodref wrote:
According to this, Hiropro and Daoud have made scummy posts so far because it looks like they want to focus the discussion of the lynch rules. Also Daoud first post came off as weird in my eyes. It looks like he's going to prepare an excuse like "I didn't understand today's lynch principle" for later.
@Daoud
What was your motivation for your first post ?
I would vote Djodref if I could because pretty much one of his first post is directly oriented towards me so he can be saved.
As Townies we have more pieces of information than scums hence we need to try things to get something back to make a decision and see whoelse is a townie.
On October 10 2012 20:40 sandroba wrote:
@da0ud Yes, those people are at disavantage. How is that relevant to who is scum or not?
Indeed this is not relevant, I was stating a fact, scum or not should be random within these matchups.
On October 11 2012 01:22 Djodref wrote:
@austin
The feeling I got from them is that they were willing to spend more time discussing the lynch mechanics.
I’ve compared them to sandroba and ET and I felt like those last ones want to close the discussion.
I don‘t think that I have said that discussing lynch mechanics is scummy. What I wanted to say is that we cannot afford to much time doing this. So the people asking for more insight on their views are scummy imo.
Totally agree with Djodref on that point. I think indeed spending time on finding who is who is more important. and i put u as scum...
On October 11 2012 08:16 austinmcc wrote:
I'm of the opposite mind as prplhz and kush on the double D lynch.
da0ud
I don't think first time scum (at least here) would come in, drop a post that wasn't serious, and then jet forever. I would think he'd be concerned about being found out, do something more.
His first post DOES feel kind of constructed, Hi again guys! and "Daoud" to sign out. But I think it's a post constructed by a townie. Like a scummy constructed post would be in response to a question, or would be pushing someone, or doing SOMETHING. A post that's constructed and does NOTHING doesn't point scum to me. I also think that's an important difference, and just hammering at "constructed = scum" is possibly scummy. Just like "possibly scummy" is scummy for being wishy washy...
I also think that mentioning someone might have planned for scum to be the low numbers in the game is probably not from mafia? That sounds like paranoid townie talk to me.
Thank you, you are the only one i think who understood really what I meant. I hope you are not using me.
On October 11 2012 06:46 kushm4sta wrote:
Yeah daoud vs djodref..
I'm on team djodref meaning I vote for daoud to advance.
Daoud's post just seems so awkward. Admittedly a lot of this is probably because English isn't his first language. But the awkwardness goes beyond that.
His alien joke makes no sense I don't care what language he thought up the joke in.
His concern about the bye:
He's right, that getting a bye makes it easier for you to be lynched. But he calls it a "disadvantage." Scum would be more likely to think of it this way. He is not approaching the bracket as an opportunity to catch scum, but as a trial to avoid lynch. He has the natural fear of a scum.
He is my #1 scum read right now and I definitely want him to go through.
I totally don't agree with you. YES this is a disadvantage. You have more chance to get lynched. You want my to do the maths ?
Even people with a BYE on first round can vote for other matchups and read people on the first round.
Being present at the first round from scums is too me on more opportunity to escape the lynch rather that getting more read on him. What if he says no word at all during the all round. People will have to put votes on him on each of them while him giving no piece of information on what he could be, hence more probability to survive the day.
100% a disadvantage.
Hence this post puts you on top of my list of scums.
Sorry I totally missed the deadline for first round of votes, I really wanted to but have been more busy that I thought. Hence this long post today.
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On October 11 2012 08:21 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2012 08:12 kushm4sta wrote:
Thrawn did you read my point about how it's a scum mentality to say that byes are at a "disadvantage"?
vote daoud IMO!
I really dont want to overrule other people's votes by voting more than once. I also do not want to get lynched, and I am town. I view starting one step closer to lynch as a "disadvantage." Yes, it's kind of weird phrasing, but townies don't want to get lynched either. I don't read that as really pointing one way or the other, whereas I read his comment about wanting to lynch seeds 10, 11, and 12 because they might have rigged the bracket that we have been told by mods was random as a townie thing. It shows...unhealthy paranoia about things that cannot be true?
Like +1
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On October 11 2012 10:36 sandroba wrote:
Yo. I want da0ud to go to the next round. I have a hunch and those have been pretty good historically.
Shame i didn't go through and cannot get lynched, you would have seen how good your hunch was....
May I have a recap of your historical hunch in order to maker an empirical rule on your reads ?
Definitely you will get my vote this round at least x1.
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On October 11 2012 12:22 kushm4sta wrote:
maybe
...you're a cool guy
On October 11 2012 12:48 da0ud wrote:
Sorry I totally missed the deadline for first round of votes, I really wanted to but have been more busy that I thought. Hence this long post today.
Is this going to change da0ud? Will you usually be here at the deadline or not?
Going to bed now.
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@daoud
K I had no idea there was alien theme...I almost never read flavor text! sorry mods.
That does excuse your terrible alien joke though.
Everyone understood what you meant. If you are scum it is clearly a disadvantage to have a bye. If you are town it's not a disadvantage because your aim isn't to survive, it's to hunt scum.
On October 11 2012 12:48 da0ud wrote:
Thank you, you are the only one i think who understood really what I meant. I hope you are not using me.
so lol. Clarify how he can be using you?
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On October 11 2012 13:00 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2012 12:48 da0ud wrote:
Sorry I totally missed the deadline for first round of votes, I really wanted to but have been more busy that I thought. Hence this long post today.
Is this going to change da0ud? Will you usually be here at the deadline or not?
Going to bed now.
I'll make sure I make a first vote before going to bed next time, even though this is like 10 hours before deadline. And if anything changes I'll amend it.
Your concern about me being able to vote for lynching mafia (aka Aliens  ) makes me have a good feelings about your townie roots.
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On October 11 2012 13:14 kushm4sta wrote:@daoud Show nested quote +On October 11 2012 12:48 da0ud wrote:
Thank you, you are the only one i think who understood really what I meant. I hope you are not using me.
so lol. Clarify how he can be using you?
Well, as he was the only one really supporting me, he could easily get my trust and getting me to follow his lead on who to vote against, etc.
If he was mafia, then that would be another bullet for the mafia team (ie : getting a townie to follow their voting pattern).
Maybe what i say doesn't make sense, but :
* Let say we are 9 townies, 3 mafia.
* One of the mafia supports the "weird" guy (who is the only one who reads the theme of the game :D)
* Let's assume this guy is now 40% following the conviction of the manipulator.
* Town is now made of 3.4 mafia vs 8.6 townies, and the plague is spreading.
But I am not that dumb (or am I ?), I'll make decisions by myself.
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Out of topic question : are you all in bed ?
I will be super not busy for the next 4hrs. Please ALL wake up !!
On October 11 2012 13:14 kushm4sta wrote:
so lol. Clarify how he can be using you?
kush ? shall I end up my post with "so lol" as well, so i can freely make fun of people.
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On October 11 2012 15:14 da0ud wrote:
Out of topic question : are you all in bed ?
I didn't say "so lol" to make fun of you. It's just the way you phrase things makes them sound sexual.
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Haha ok~ I feel so loved now <3
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Btw kush did you get my point on how he could be using me ?
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yup turning you into a mini scum so he can have a 3.4 scumteam. makes perfect sense.
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I am not reading scum on this guy so I'm glad djodref passed instead.
He shares his crazy thoughts too freely.
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Hey daoud if tonight is your only time, (or whatever time of the day it is for you) maybe you should decide on who you want to go through in the current bracket and give reasons why.
It's better to do it when other people are here but I get that your tome zone is opposite.
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True.
I actually already put a first draft of vote in the outside thread. Only voting for Djodref x1
Currently no real read or gut feeling on first two matches (Thrawn vs Hope) nor (Hiro vs ON). So I won't put a vote in yet.
Regarding your matchup against sandroba, I don't mind either of you to move on, so i will save my vote for the time being.
In the last matchup i will vote Djodref for lighting up the accusation against me in the first round. Now that i can vote against him i do it.
This can all change depending on how things go.
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On October 11 2012 11:30 OriginalName wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2012 11:22 sandroba wrote:On October 11 2012 11:08 OriginalName wrote:On October 11 2012 11:05 thrawn2112 wrote:
your phone died for like 24 hours and you just now manage to make it back right at deadline? There is this wonderful thing called real life that happens to often impede on things, by the time I was free to post and take time to read my phone was dead and I had to wait until i got off my rather late shift at work and communicate with this thread. ON why the votes on djoref? panic votes~~~
Why were you panicking and why did you chose djodref?
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Gonna vote for sandroba over kush.
I'm getting a pretty scummy read off of sandroba atm. The majority of his filter is fluff. Then there's this bit:
On October 10 2012 20:40 sandroba wrote:@prpl You are my best scum read so far, how do you feel about that <3
So here he says that prplhz is his best scum read. Not only does sandroba not push to vote prplhz over kush during round 1, he doesn't even mention prplhz again. Why would any townie not want to at least throw 1 vote for their "top scumread?" Why would any townie have a "top scumread" that they never talk about?
He also says:
On October 11 2012 10:36 sandroba wrote:
Yo. I want da0ud to go to the next round. I have a hunch and those have been pretty good historically.
"Hunches" aren't good enough explanations for me. And this is the 2nd case where sandroba has a read but he's not willing to go the distance to push his votes. He says prplhz is his top scum read, never votes for him or mentions him again. He wants da0ud to go through based on a hunch, and he puts a lot of weight behind the validity of his hunches. Yet he doesn't put enough votes in to push da0ud through. So that's twice where his stated intentions don't match up with his actions.
FOS sandroba
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