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On October 11 2012 17:35 thrawn2112 wrote:
"Hunches" aren't good enough explanations for me. And this is the 2nd case where sandroba has a read but he's not willing to go the distance to push his votes. He says prplhz is his top scum read, never votes for him or mentions him again. He wants da0ud to go through based on a hunch, and he puts a lot of weight behind the validity of his hunches. Yet he doesn't put enough votes in to push da0ud through. So that's twice where his stated intentions don't match up with his actions.
So you wanted me to go through ? Not nice  But I see your point against Sandroba.
I just cannot make up my mind on who is the scummiest between him and kush.
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On October 11 2012 17:47 da0ud wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2012 17:35 thrawn2112 wrote:
"Hunches" aren't good enough explanations for me. And this is the 2nd case where sandroba has a read but he's not willing to go the distance to push his votes. He says prplhz is his top scum read, never votes for him or mentions him again. He wants da0ud to go through based on a hunch, and he puts a lot of weight behind the validity of his hunches. Yet he doesn't put enough votes in to push da0ud through. So that's twice where his stated intentions don't match up with his actions.
So you wanted me to go through ? Not nice But I see your point against Sandroba. I just cannot make up my mind on who is the scummiest between him and kush.
No I wanted djodref to go through that's why I voted for him lol. What I was talking about is that sandroba's votes weren't lining up with his words. He put no effort into pushing his top scumread (prplhz) and he didn't have the balls to put enough votes on you to push you through, despite having a hunch after saying that his hunches are usually correct.
So what do you think about kush, and do you have anything else to say about sandroba?
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On October 11 2012 17:52 thrawn2112 wrote:
No I wanted djodref to go through that's why I voted for him lol. What I was talking about is that sandroba's votes weren't lining up with his words. He put no effort into pushing his top scumread (prplhz) and he didn't have the balls to put enough votes on you to push you through, despite having a hunch after saying that his hunches are usually correct.
I know don't worry.
Let me find some time to elaborate on Sand and Kush.
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About Sandroba :
On October 10 2012 20:40 sandroba wrote:
@prpl You are my best scum read so far, how do you feel about that <3
@mementoss Don't be stupid. Town# > Mafia# by default. That's the dumbest shit I've read so far and let me tell you there is plenty dumb shit about.
First statement coming from nowhere and second one just insulting Mementoss freely. Sure Town>Mafia, but someone who would worry about the number of Mafia people sounds townie to me. Getting accused of stupid on this topic would show me a mafia bullying a townie.
On October 10 2012 20:46 sandroba wrote:
You don't have to vote anyone right now. You have however many votes you want (max 10). You misrepresented ET impossible ratio quote so somehow he knew the mafia number which we don't know yet so you can vote ET. Yes, that's dumb.
insulting
On October 10 2012 21:07 sandroba wrote:
I'm mad when I can't distiguish between someone being crazy or trying to make a fake contribution. You can vote for whoever you like as long as your explanation doesn't stink. And as long as the person can even get votes, which ET can't even get this round. Better luck reading the game and the thread next time.
insulting
On October 11 2012 10:31 sandroba wrote:
Djoref dude looks town to me. Da0ud could go either way, leaning scum atm. I'm actually surprised he was winning, anyone care to explain it to me? austin?
How could Djodref look town ? He doesn't look 100% mafia but he does at least look like 70% of it.
On October 11 2012 10:36 sandroba wrote:
Yo. I want da0ud to go to the next round. I have a hunch and those have been pretty good historically.
Coming from nowhere trying to protect Djodref.
On October 11 2012 11:22 sandroba wrote:
ON why the votes on djoref?
Another post to back up someone. Not a post like "why don't you vote against Da0ud he looks suspicious/ you should follow my "HuncH" ".
Instead the post should be read why do you vote against my matey Djodref.
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About KushM4sta :
On October 11 2012 00:28 kushm4sta wrote:
I'm putting my votes down now in the voting thread and yes I'm going to vote on every matchup.
I prioritize voting bad people over good people just because I think we are more likely to catch a bad scum than a good scum today, also lynching a good town is way worse than lynching bad town.
I am also prioritizing voting for afks instead of actives.
hopeless1der x1
originalname x1
da0ud x1
This is total scum talk, trying to elaborate and why he would vote for killing townies and that it would be not suspiscious when after we realise he lynched a townie.
He will say : I was only doing vote against my will : ok he was town but he was not participating, so not my fault.
Oh yes he was town but he was a BAD player.
@ Kush :
Please elaborate what a BAD town is ?
On October 11 2012 06:46 kushm4sta wrote:
Yeah daoud vs djodref..
I'm on team djodref meaning I vote for daoud to advance.
Daoud's post just seems so awkward. Admittedly a lot of this is probably because English isn't his first language. But the awkwardness goes beyond that.
His alien joke makes no sense I don't care what language he thought up the joke in.
His concern about the bye:
He's right, that getting a bye makes it easier for you to be lynched. But he calls it a "disadvantage." Scum would be more likely to think of it this way. He is not approaching the bracket as an opportunity to catch scum, but as a trial to avoid lynch. He has the natural fear of a scum.
He is my #1 scum read right now and I definitely want him to go through.
Another person backing up another one (ie: Djodref once more), so a vote to protect his accomplice.
And I have already explained WHY the rest of his post is totally scummy post. Trying to pretend it is not a disadvantage for a townie to be put directly in second round.
On October 11 2012 13:14 kushm4sta wrote:
@daoud
K I had no idea there was alien theme...I almost never read flavor text! sorry mods.
That does excuse your terrible alien joke though.
Everyone understood what you meant. If you are scum it is clearly a disadvantage to have a bye. If you are town it's not a disadvantage because your aim isn't to survive, it's to hunt scum.
Please explain me how you do hunt scum if you don't survive ?
The rest of his posts are trying to be nicer with me, because he realises I am not as dumb and bad in english as he would have expected/hoped. My alien joke.... yes i read the intro. He agrees on how I could have been made a mini-scum without arguing against it. Maybe you don't want me to form an alliance with another townie so soon in the game ?
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On October 11 2012 18:53 da0ud wrote:The rest of his posts are trying to be nicer with me, because he realises I am not as dumb and bad in english as he would have expected/hoped. My alien joke.... yes i read the intro. He agrees on how I could have been made a mini-scum without arguing against it. Maybe you don't want me to form an alliance with another townie so soon in the game ?
I'm confused, what is this mini-scum stuff you two are talking about and what do you mean by "form an alliance with another townie so soon in the game?"
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On October 11 2012 10:43 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2012 10:36 sandroba wrote:
Yo. I want da0ud to go to the next round. I have a hunch and those have been pretty good historically. how strong is your hunch? time to find out
Can you explain this post please? Why are you just trusting sandroba's hunch?
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On October 11 2012 19:23 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2012 10:43 thrawn2112 wrote:On October 11 2012 10:36 sandroba wrote:
Yo. I want da0ud to go to the next round. I have a hunch and those have been pretty good historically. how strong is your hunch? time to find out Can you explain this post please? Why are you just trusting sandroba's hunch?
Go look at the voting thread, I added a vote for djodref right when I made that post. Sandroba's reasoning for picking da0 over djod was because of a hunch, and I didn't like that as an explanation so I decided to see if he really trusted his hunch as much as he said he did. Apparently he didn't.
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@HiroPro Why are you only talking about me/kushm4sta?
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Voting Hopeless1der because thrawn2112 looks town and he has higher seed. Hopeless1der doesn't look great either but I didn't read all that hard into him right now.
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Yes I'm was not explaining anything because nothing was solid yet. I rather let people talk then to post a ton. da0ud and thrawn are flooding the thread a lot, so I'm pretty pleased with how it turned out, even if he didn't make it through. That is because I would expect him to post way less had him gotten a pass as scum.
Right now I'm pretty sure ON is scum. There was no reason to throw those 2 random votes and freak out a ton if you had not read the thread. Voting isn't even mandatory. The only explanation is someone informing him erroneously that he would be modkilled due to the cohost pointing out in the thread he had not voted and since on his mind he had to throw some votes somewhere he just used the opportunity to push some agenda that is yet to be seen by voting the most controversial match up. No reason for him to vote that match up at all if he was town and had no info, since he doesn't even know those players, and I would expect him to throw one vote on someone he knew if he didn't have any agenda.
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On October 11 2012 20:49 sandroba wrote:Right now I'm pretty sure ON is scum. There was no reason to throw those 2 random votes and freak out a ton if you had not read the thread. Voting isn't even mandatory. The only explanation is someone informing him erroneously that he would be modkilled due to the cohost pointing out in the thread he had not voted and since on his mind he had to throw some votes somewhere he just used the opportunity to push some agenda that is yet to be seen by voting the most controversial match up. No reason for him to vote that match up at all if he was town and had no info, since he doesn't even know those players, and I would expect him to throw one vote on someone he knew if he didn't have any agenda.
This is what I was thinking, but he came in after the deadline and gave some reads and promised more so I'm not sure about that MU atm. As of now I'm probably going to vote ON over hiro.
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It bothers me that these 3 players have the most power in town
ON
Hopeless
Da0
None of them used any votes officially, and all have 10 votes remaining. Coming down to the wire any one of them as scum could sway the results.
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On October 11 2012 20:56 Mementoss wrote:
It bothers me that these 3 players have the most power in town
ON
Hopeless
Da0
None of them used any votes officially, and all have 10 votes remaining. Coming down to the wire any one of them as scum could sway the results.
If they're scum and that's their plan then they're pretty stupid because they'd be put in the spotlight for doing that.
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On October 11 2012 20:59 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2012 20:56 Mementoss wrote:
It bothers me that these 3 players have the most power in town
ON
Hopeless
Da0
None of them used any votes officially, and all have 10 votes remaining. Coming down to the wire any one of them as scum could sway the results. If they're scum and that's their plan then they're pretty stupid because they'd be put in the spotlight for doing that.
Not all 3, but it is very possible for one of them to be scum, gaining 2 extra votes after the first round could prove to be a great advantage.
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On October 11 2012 19:02 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2012 18:53 da0ud wrote:The rest of his posts are trying to be nicer with me, because he realises I am not as dumb and bad in english as he would have expected/hoped. My alien joke.... yes i read the intro. He agrees on how I could have been made a mini-scum without arguing against it. Maybe you don't want me to form an alliance with another townie so soon in the game ? I'm confused, what is this mini-scum stuff you two are talking about and what do you mean by "form an alliance with another townie so soon in the game?"
@ Thrawn : here is the part i was talking about the mini-scum :
On October 11 2012 14:38 da0ud wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2012 13:14 kushm4sta wrote:@daoud On October 11 2012 12:48 da0ud wrote:
Thank you, you are the only one i think who understood really what I meant. I hope you are not using me.
so lol. Clarify how he can be using you? Well, as he was the only one really supporting me, he could easily get my trust and getting me to follow his lead on who to vote against, etc. If he was mafia, then that would be another bullet for the mafia team (ie : getting a townie to follow their voting pattern). Maybe what i say doesn't make sense, but : * Let say we are 9 townies, 3 mafia. * One of the mafia supports the "weird" guy (who is the only one who reads the theme of the game :D) * Let's assume this guy is now 40% following the conviction of the manipulator. * Town is now made of 3.4 mafia vs 8.6 townies, and the plague is spreading. But I am not that dumb (or am I ?), I'll make decisions by myself.
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On October 11 2012 20:49 sandroba wrote:
Yes I'm was not explaining anything because nothing was solid yet. I rather let people talk then to post a ton. da0ud and thrawn are flooding the thread a lot, so I'm pretty pleased with how it turned out, even if he didn't make it through. That is because I would expect him to post way less had him gotten a pass as scum.
Right now I'm pretty sure ON is scum. There was no reason to throw those 2 random votes and freak out a ton if you had not read the thread. Voting isn't even mandatory. The only explanation is someone informing him erroneously that he would be modkilled due to the cohost pointing out in the thread he had not voted and since on his mind he had to throw some votes somewhere he just used the opportunity to push some agenda that is yet to be seen by voting the most controversial match up. No reason for him to vote that match up at all if he was town and had no info, since he doesn't even know those players, and I would expect him to throw one vote on someone he knew if he didn't have any agenda.
I had a PM from Kita saying "Why you no post" and promptly forgot the modkill rule.
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On October 11 2012 22:11 OriginalName wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2012 20:49 sandroba wrote:
Yes I'm was not explaining anything because nothing was solid yet. I rather let people talk then to post a ton. da0ud and thrawn are flooding the thread a lot, so I'm pretty pleased with how it turned out, even if he didn't make it through. That is because I would expect him to post way less had him gotten a pass as scum.
Right now I'm pretty sure ON is scum. There was no reason to throw those 2 random votes and freak out a ton if you had not read the thread. Voting isn't even mandatory. The only explanation is someone informing him erroneously that he would be modkilled due to the cohost pointing out in the thread he had not voted and since on his mind he had to throw some votes somewhere he just used the opportunity to push some agenda that is yet to be seen by voting the most controversial match up. No reason for him to vote that match up at all if he was town and had no info, since he doesn't even know those players, and I would expect him to throw one vote on someone he knew if he didn't have any agenda.
I had a PM from Kita saying "Why you no post" and promptly forgot the modkill rule.
Is this your first game? lol, i don't care as long as you can up your activity to an amount where you can be beneficial to the town killing scum.
+ Show Spoiler +6. Posting or sharing any PM you receive from a host.
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On October 11 2012 22:17 Mementoss wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2012 22:11 OriginalName wrote:On October 11 2012 20:49 sandroba wrote:
Yes I'm was not explaining anything because nothing was solid yet. I rather let people talk then to post a ton. da0ud and thrawn are flooding the thread a lot, so I'm pretty pleased with how it turned out, even if he didn't make it through. That is because I would expect him to post way less had him gotten a pass as scum.
Right now I'm pretty sure ON is scum. There was no reason to throw those 2 random votes and freak out a ton if you had not read the thread. Voting isn't even mandatory. The only explanation is someone informing him erroneously that he would be modkilled due to the cohost pointing out in the thread he had not voted and since on his mind he had to throw some votes somewhere he just used the opportunity to push some agenda that is yet to be seen by voting the most controversial match up. No reason for him to vote that match up at all if he was town and had no info, since he doesn't even know those players, and I would expect him to throw one vote on someone he knew if he didn't have any agenda.
I had a PM from Kita saying "Why you no post" and promptly forgot the modkill rule. Is this your first game? lol, i don't care as long as you can up your activity to an amount where you can be beneficial to the town killing scum. + Show Spoiler +6. Posting or sharing any PM you receive from a host.
That doesnt violate the rule, i would have to actully post it to violate that.
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Hello guys !
I'm finally back from work and I'm going to relax a little bit then catch up with the filters.
If you don't mind to give me a little time, I'm planning to give my thoughts on today's MUs.
But first things first,
@People who voted for me
I can understand that you find me scummy. I think for the most part it comes from this post
On October 10 2012 19:31 Djodref wrote:
I totally second Thrawn's last post.
I think giving ourselves rules for voting is going to give mafia an opportunity to blend in and/or to take advantages of these rules. I guess it should be ok if we just vote for the people we find scummy.
Moreover, the more time we discuss about the rules we should use, the less time we have for scumhunting. It's also a golden opportunity for the mafia to look like they are participating while discussing the rules.
According to this, Hiropro and Daoud have made scummy posts so far because it looks like they want to focus the discussion of the lynch rules. Also Daoud first post came off as weird in my eyes. It looks like he's going to prepare an excuse like "I didn't understand today's lynch principle" for later.
@Daoud
What was your motivation for your first post ?
I would like to say that at the time I've made this post, the conversation in the thread was mainly about the lynch mechanics and I really didn't like it because scumhunting didn't even start. So I've noticed this post from Hiropro
On October 10 2012 12:28 HiroPro wrote:
So do you agree with my plan or not? Any ideas of your own?
and this post from Daoud
On October 10 2012 15:30 da0ud wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 14:18 sandroba wrote:
Hey. Is this to be taken serious? Are you missing the point of the game or making a joke? Indeed, this was not to be taken seriously. However, I am not sure why receiving a BYE on first round would not make you more likely to be lynched in the end.
I have no problem with people discussing lynch mechanics and proposing some plans (if they have time to spare for this) but I think that orientating the conversation into this direction like the post from Hiro is scummy and trying to argue over something obvious like Daoud's post is scummy as well. I would like to add that I totally knew that Daoud was my opponent but it was not a reason for letting pass this, especially after his introduction post where he looked like he misunderstood the basic principles of this game.
On a side note, Daoud really looks like a newb townie. I advice him to be careful with early association cases because I also thought I got the complete scumteam on D1 of my last newbie game  In a result I just have been tunneling our town MVP until my death...
And one last thing before studying the MUs.
@Hopeless
On October 11 2012 11:36 Hopeless1der wrote:
/snip
I'll ask again since no one responded last time:
WILL YOU BE AVAILABLE AROUND THE DEADLINE (YES/NO)? PLEASE SELECT ONE RESPONSE.
Hopeless1der: Yes
Deadline is 11am for me and I have a meeting starting at 9am which should end my business trip. So I'm either going to be in meeting or on the way back to Seoul for the deadline. In the latter case, I should be able to check the thread with my phone. Now that I have answered your question, I would really like you to answer mine:
Why are so concerned by people being around at deadline or not ? What are you trying to achieve exactly ?
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