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On October 12 2012 12:44 gonzaw wrote:
But both scum thought I was legitimately scum as well :/
It's not that they thought I was town and tried to get an easy misslynch on me....scum thought I was from the other scum team (both of them I think)
....I don't know what to think of that lol
N2 was the one where me and Jingle started that shitstorm right? I don't think there was nothing to do that night other than that though.
Hey, credit where due, you started a shitstorm  , I just got absurdly lucky that people decided to skip over pages instead of realizing I was fanning the flames deliberately.
I think my worst slip that I was lucky nobody caught, though, was accusing you of foreknowledge on Draz. I really should have saved that for after the flip so nobody would notice it was almost like *I* knew he wasn't scum.
Really, roughly everything I said was scummy about you, I caught myself doing at some other point 2 seconds after I hit post. But by then nobody wanted to read anything that had both of our names in it.
By late, I had neutralized myself too effectively.
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On October 12 2012 13:16 Keirathi wrote:
Jingle:
Why didn't you use your action last night?
I had no idea what Austin can do, and basically, I figured that IF Austin and Gonzaw were somehow both town, I didn't want to be visiting Austin, since an NK on him would have been smart if he were town. There weren't many scenarios (with the information available to me) where leaving my action on Austin made any sense compared to not taking an action.
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On October 12 2012 13:42 Keirathi wrote:Also I think I let you slide because I was convinced that austin was RS because of his play this game, and that Jingle was scum too. And I really only expected 2/2 
If you were convinced on me being scum, why did you not listen to my "minimum of 3 RS, 2 BS" argument?
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On October 12 2012 14:03 gonzaw wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 13:55 Keirathi wrote:On October 12 2012 13:54 gonzaw wrote:Ehm....there were only 2 active townies in the thread, me and Kei and I did most of the talking so I guess you should say "I'm upset that gonzaw decided to speculate on the setup and not scumhunt"  I tried to scumhunt on D3 but meh everybody was off parking a vote on Draz and leaving so I couldn't really do much since I wasn't too convinced. Holy shit, how do you have a 20 page filter in a 90 page game. Rofl. Why don't you check my D1 filter? Yep, only 1 page. I really tried to hold myself back with the posting there and be "pro-town" and change my playing style and all that shit. Once shit hit the fan though I just couldn't be arsed anymore. I mean, my filter doubled just on D3 alone, that should have given people some ideas lol.
That was part of why I continued actually thinking you were scum up to the end. You suddenly spiked activity when you found out about Black Mesa, which made me think you suddenly felt "safe" hunting for real.
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On October 12 2012 14:06 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 14:03 Crossfire99 wrote:
well we sorta had to play like town. I lumped us in there because our #1 threat was RS. I mean we had the only DT but no KP, except for my very conditional KP. You guys should have killed someone day2 btw. Should have had ghost position swap you night 1 to trigger your vig ability.
Me and Ghost couldn't activate him.
We kinda checked that ASAP. If we could, I'da activated him so that Ghost could cop it out.
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On October 12 2012 14:10 HiroPro wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 14:10 Crossfire99 wrote:
Heck that's what made it scary to use Jingle's ability on someone to target me. We had no idea what their ability was. I figured there would have been a DT because there were 2 scum factions and at least 5 total. Also, I figured there would be more than just 1 town vig with that many scum, but meh. idk You needed to play townie enough to get some protection.
Yeah, I actually mentioned in QT that him and ghost would be appealing NK targets shortly before you guys offed him.
I knew I would be too useful to red to NK, and too useless to town to lynch.
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On October 12 2012 14:14 HiroPro wrote:
I don't think this setup is really imbalanced (if you consider each side having 1/3 chance to win fair). Maybe black scum could have been a little stronger.
But it is very variable. Like a lot depends on the interaction of night actions.
And survival. As long as Black Mesa was an unknown, we had a chance. When we got revealed through flip, we were in serious trouble unless we lynched scum and scum NKed anyone with a shred of towncred. When ghost flipped, we officially lost.
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On October 12 2012 14:57 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 14:29 Keirathi wrote:On October 12 2012 14:25 strongandbig wrote:
my role pm didnt say you were town, it didn't say anything about your alignment.
Welcome to Aperture Mafia 2: Portal Edition! You are P-Body, the Roleblocker Roleblocker. You and your buddy A.T.L.A.S. (who is also in the game) are great test takers! You are much more cunning than your partner, and can help others solve tests. Each night you may target a player, and remove all roleblock effects on them for that night. Because you and A.T.L.A.S. are so in sync, whoever he targets with his ability you will also affect as well. you win with the town
If it said that, and a "Test Giver" flipped, and you were somehow scum, I would have been pretty pissed. Why would scum P-Body and town ATLAS (or vice-versa) be buddies at all? Much less specifically say we are both test takers. Really want the flavor I would use? Hello, Cave Johnson here! Welcome to cooperative antagonist robotic testing! Today is a great leap forward in science, so you should be proud! Or rather your computer brains should be simulating proudness. Anyway after watching robots try to work together but then get each other killed, we decided to see how well robots trying to kill each other work together. Makes sense right? RIGHT?!?! Anyway, get out there and try to work towards your common goal of beating the other. You'll do fine. We're done here.
Funny, that reminds me of a Portal 2 Coop map I made for the pure function of blowing up your fellow robot.
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On October 12 2012 22:55 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 18:53 Hassybaby wrote:
While we're here....hey, Red Scum team, why did you shoot Crossfire N2? iirc, both from the vote and the misunderstanding about the lynch mechanic, he came across as incredibly townie. Someone that we just couldn't mislynch later in the game. While he wasn't active and figuring things out, he was someone we didn't want around as the game went longer because he wouldn't ever be a mislynch option. Plus, although he seemed to be clearly town, it still felt unlikely there'd be protection on him because of his activity level, so it was more likely we could actually kill him than someone highly visible. Just so happened that "incredibly townie" actually meant "incredibly not-us"
Pretty much the reasons I had figured in the BS QT that he'd be a great target.
By the way, is anyone else almost wishing we'd gotten to find out how me vs Gonzaw in the least rational Mafia all-in ever would have ended?
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On October 12 2012 23:04 marvellosity wrote:
no, everyone wants to forget that as soon as possible
Oh come on, it was a brilliant strategy. Thank you for not being in this one, by the way, I really doubt I could have gotten away with referencing bad play in PTP3 safely. You would have gotten me lynched because you know my ego.
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On October 12 2012 23:20 marvellosity wrote:
I love your ego, babe <3
edit: and yea, you know I found that PTP3 thing pretty weird.
<3 But yeah, I literally was thinking about that when I posted that. "It's a really good thing Marv isn't in this game, he'd know better."
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Meh, I'll just find a different excuse next time. Having to do that was Keirathi's fault anyways. "aggressive and leadery". Then later he suddenly remembers I'm willing to play that was as scum, too. Bastard.
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