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Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
October 04 2012 22:53 GMT
#741
On October 05 2012 07:51 Drazerk wrote:
They may of written it like that to trick you. Kill him.

Remind me never to sign up for a game you're in again. Thanks!
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 04 2012 22:54 GMT
#742
On October 05 2012 07:53 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 07:51 Drazerk wrote:
They may of written it like that to trick you. Kill him.

Remind me never to sign up for a game you're in again. Thanks!

lol don't you see the townie paranoia he is displaying
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 04 2012 22:55 GMT
#743
Hey you just don't want your body guard dead so you live longer

It makes no logical sense to have such a close bond to someone you don't know the alignment of just because he is mentioned in your role PM. Guess what in the last aperture game Kanti, Lord of the Black Flames; the 3rd party planar dragon; and KALTHAZAR, LORD OF THE DIMENSIONAL RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFT were all mentions and they all turned out to be pretty anti town roles.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
October 04 2012 22:59 GMT
#744
One last thing I want to say:

Whenever (if?) I flip at the deadline, read my role PM closely and decide for yourselves if you think there's any room for interpretting it as us being of different alignments. I honestly don't believe there is. So, if you come to the same conclusion I did, S&B is 99.9% confirmed down. If anyone has any KP protection, for the love of god use it on him.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
October 04 2012 23:01 GMT
#745
Night 2

[image loading]


You euthanized your faithful Companion Cube more quickly than any test subject on record. Congratulations.

Weighted Companion Cube (Nisani201) was lynched





+ Show Spoiler [Role PM] +
Welcome to Aperture Mafia 2: Portal Edition! You are the Weighted Companion Cube, The Clingy Medic Watcher. Your job is to offer affection to everyone and to open the way to testers. Each night, you may target another player and shower them with affection, healing them for 1 kp. You are also a cube, and therefore can't move. You will attach to your heal target and watch them the next night to see who visits them. This watch returns info from the entire cycle, starting with the Daypost. You win with the town.


Final Vote Count

Vote Count

gonzaw (0): JingleHell, Keirathi

Nisani201 (5): gonzaw, Mattchew, austinmcc, stronghandbig, crossfire99, HiroPro, Keirathi, Mattchew, Keirathi

strongandbig (4): Mattchew, Drazerk, ghost_403, JingleHell, Nisani201

Drazerk (0): Keirathi

No Lynch (2): Crossfire99, Mattchew




It is now Night 2, Please submit all actions to me and Greymist. The Night ends in 24 hours.
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 04 2012 23:02 GMT
#746
Well my plan to make you all confused an unvote Nisani almost worked...
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
October 04 2012 23:04 GMT
#747
Gonna spend the next few weeks reading through some games and improving my play. Sorry for not putting in as much effort as oi could have.

Gl hf
Enjoy your day.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 04 2012 23:11 GMT
#748
bah this is stupid.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
October 05 2012 00:31 GMT
#749
Oh look, so if we want to treat Keirathi and SNB as semi-confirmed (We can always leave them till MYLO/LYLO and nuke them if we haven't disproven that theory by then, since they've at least claimed buddies), we should go back to what I've been saying for FUCKING FOREVER and kill Gonzaw.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
October 05 2012 00:34 GMT
#750
Oh, and since I'm sure people will ask why I didn't change my vote with the Keirathi claim, I was out. Just got home. Although I'm sure... certain people... will suddenly attack me as scum.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 05 2012 01:22 GMT
#751
Ehmmm.....

Am I the only one that thinks the impossible happened?

Damn...this is not funny at all.

Well, I'm speechless and I don't really know what to do. It kind of bums me out Hiro/austin/Crossfire/ghost/Keirathi/Jingle didn't do anything all D2 right up until the very end but I thought it wouldn't have mattered (once Nisani flipped red)

I won't call anybody out until I think about this for a second.


On October 05 2012 02:43 austinmcc wrote:
Why would you want that answered? As far as I can tell, the answer to that question is ONLY useful to scum. Whether you believe his claim or not...asking "Mr. Bodyguard, how exactly can you be killed?" is NOT information that needs to be out in the open.

That question gives me SERIOUS red flags. I need to look back over you.


Well...because I wanted scum to have the chance to shoot him at night mostly (to remove a suspect) (or rather know if scum can shoot him at night).
If he's scum and gives us the info "I only have 1 extra life" it get's much more difficult for him to explain surviving each remaining night, and if he's town maybe scum shoot him instead of someone else and remove us from a suspect we aren't sure about (at that time, when P-body didn't claim)



austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 05 2012 01:59 GMT
#752
Just got back in. gg nisani

For those that have played the games, is there any character that wants p-body and/or atlas dead? Out of all the claims we've had so far "one shot vigi" is the least believable imo. Even if p-body and/or atlas is scum, Drazerk's angling really hard to get one or both killed and I don't buy that he's not lying about his abilities.

Gonzaw...that explanation is as bad as the question. It's one of those things that looks townie because its so open, except that you played so actively and visibly in Liar Game, so I don't think you'd have any fear giving that explanation as scum.
Fe fi fo fum.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 05 2012 02:13 GMT
#753
You think because I played so actively and visibly in Liar Game I can as easily do it again in a minigame? (remember they are not the same type of games)
Why is that always used against me?
"You could have done that as scum if you play just like you did in the Liar Game, therefore you are scummy"

Why don't you look at Bureaucracy mafia and see if I did similar stuff? I mean, that one is closer in time.


Anyways, damn, I'm getting the feeling I'm going to end up playing badly this game again (i.e I'm going to have shitty reads) and I'm gonna get misslynched or get close to misslynched.
If I have to change my town reads on Hiro/ghost/austin/Crossfire/Jingle then I may end up getting confused again.

But fuck, I was so convinced Nisani was scum this seems like a bad joke on me. Seriously, that's a first.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 05 2012 02:26 GMT
#754
On October 05 2012 11:13 gonzaw wrote:
You think because I played so actively and visibly in Liar Game I can as easily do it again in a minigame? (remember they are not the same type of games)
Why is that always used against me?
"You could have done that as scum if you play just like you did in the Liar Game, therefore you are scummy"

Why don't you look at Bureaucracy mafia and see if I did similar stuff? I mean, that one is closer in time.


Anyways, damn, I'm getting the feeling I'm going to end up playing badly this game again (i.e I'm going to have shitty reads) and I'm gonna get misslynched or get close to misslynched.
If I have to change my town reads on Hiro/ghost/austin/Crossfire/Jingle then I may end up getting confused again.

But fuck, I was so convinced Nisani was scum this seems like a bad joke on me. Seriously, that's a first.



Bureaucracy doesn't really work as a comparison here, because the entire setup was different. I imagine that playing scum in that game, especially as a middle manager, was different than a normal scum game. Heck, the entire POINT of that game was that the scum team was not a normal scum team.

I know Liar Game was also themed, and had multiple scum teams, and all that jazz, but it just puts everyone on notice that you can play an active scum game. Again, I need to reread, but it's not like I'm saying you posting x number of times is scummy, it's that one question that I'm looking at right now.

Also, keirathi isn't in your list of town reads there. Earlier, you were defending him. Did you leave him out or has your read changed?
Fe fi fo fum.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 05 2012 02:43 GMT
#755
Well, I take him as "confirmed" town for now so I don't plan on changing my read of him.

If I do need to change my read on him then it doesn't really matter since both him and scum S&B would be immediately outed without my help at finding them.

*sigh* The easiest option for scum right now is Drazerk, or if turn a blind eye to my gut Jingle; but shit I hate it when this happens in games.

Hopefully there is only 1 scum left and 1 3rd party survivor or something so I feel better about myself in post-game.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
October 05 2012 02:52 GMT
#756
What about Matt? He's the only person you didn't mention across those 2 posts, although you have said since n1 that you believe him to be town.

So your list is:

Town:

strongandbig
HiroPro
Keirathi
ghost_403
JingleHell
austinmcc
Crossfire99
gonzaw


Maybe:

Drazerk


??:

Mattchew


That seems...pretty unlikely?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
October 05 2012 03:00 GMT
#757
On October 05 2012 11:52 Keirathi wrote:
What about Matt? He's the only person you didn't mention across those 2 posts, although you have said since n1 that you believe him to be town.

So your list is:

Town:

strongandbig
HiroPro
Keirathi
ghost_403
JingleHell
austinmcc
Crossfire99
gonzaw


Maybe:

Drazerk


??:

Mattchew


That seems...pretty unlikely?


I think he overdid the whole effort to stay alive by trying to ingratiate himself by calling people town.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
October 05 2012 03:04 GMT
#758
Oh, and right now I'm totally active lurking and watching the LoL World Championships. So yeah, I'm active lurking right now. Love me for it.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 05 2012 03:05 GMT
#759
Yes, that's what I see now, which is why this game is giving me a headache right now.

No, Mattchew is most likely town and I don't doubt that....at least for now.

If I have to make a quick response about "who's scum" I'd have to say one of these:
Hiro-ghost-Drazerk-Jingle

But I'm not in the mood right now to start completely changing my reads on them.
Being in this situation also makes me doubt the other players still (Mattchew, austin and Crossfire).

Again, the "easiest" answer I can give you without having to drastically change my point of view is "Drazerk" and maybe "Jingle" (because honestly he's the easiest one I can FoS and just say "maybe he's that reckless as scum anyway" and brush it off).

I have to reread filters though, I can't answer anything seriously until I do. Hopefully tomorrow I have time and go to uni later in the day and not so early.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 05 2012 04:08 GMT
#760
On October 05 2012 12:00 JingleHell wrote:
I think he overdid the whole effort to stay alive by trying to ingratiate himself by calling people town.


Okay, I've had enough of this.
I've tried to just ignore you, but there's a real possibility you can be scum so I just want to get this over with:

Make a damn case against me

Come on, I dare you.

You've been actively buggering me and everybody "assuming" I'm scum but other than "in D1 he FoSed me" and "he's discrediting me yet calling me town" I haven't seen nor remember any point you made about me being scum at all.

You have been all "oh look, scum gonzaw has townreads! He's obvious scum" or "look, scum gonzaw wants to do X! more scumminess that should convince everybody he's scum".
Those are not points about me being scum, those are points you twist to convince yourself your scumread on me (which I still don't quite get where it came from) is not shitty.
It's confirmation bias, everybody does it, hell I may have done it with Nisani back there (in hindsight there were some things he said that struck me as odd for scum to say, but I just shrugged it off as "scum trying to misdirect me"; for instance when he didn't jump on the wagon against me when I FoSed him and didn't even try to discredit me and actually "liked" my case on S&B)
But you can't rely on those to make a case.

So come on, go, read my filter and make a case, I have all N2 to wait for it, I know I'm not getting killed by scum tonight anyways (again, just like Can't Believe).

I suggest S&B or Keirathi (whoever has the medic ability) to use it on someone else tonight.


If someone somehow still doubts I'm town please go back and read Can't Believe again:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=351147

Everything in my play eerily seems to be exactly like in there (at least before D2), down to me being town to me having shitty reads (as it pains me to say) and getting FoSed all over the place, to "defending" (somehow) a flipped scum and getting shit for it, etc.


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