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gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 07 2012 22:56 GMT
#1248
Oh fuck if you flip scum I'll feel so retarded
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 07 2012 22:59 GMT
#1251
Who's out there other than me/Draz? Kei you still there?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 07 2012 23:00 GMT
#1254
On October 08 2012 08:00 austinmcc wrote:
I'm here but waiting.

gifs and more claims that make no sense don't convince me of anything.


Just want someone here to talk to after he flips
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 07 2012 23:01 GMT
#1257
No last words now that you are 100% dead?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 07 2012 23:02 GMT
#1261
At least I'm not retarded
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 07 2012 23:04 GMT
#1262
this KP goes through Roleblock and bussdriver effects (not medic)


It doesn't say if it goes through Vet abilities or not.

Fucking great Draz, fucking great.

Each daypost, you will recieve a random ability used on you the previous night. You will not be told what ability you recieve


Also thanks for telling us if this happened or not.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 07 2012 23:05 GMT
#1264
On October 08 2012 08:04 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2012 08:02 gonzaw wrote:
At least I'm not retarded


Or maybe you just knew in advance, which is why you staged that cute little change of heart, and started creating all that "what if" discussion, like I said.




Stop it. If I'm RS I can't know if he's BS and if I'm BS I can't know if he's RS without a DT check or something
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 07 2012 23:08 GMT
#1265
Jingle, why were you here right before the deadline and didn't even try to get me lynched, specially when me/Draz/etc started voting for No-lynch and people started to back off Draz?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 07 2012 23:14 GMT
#1270
His "KP" is just 1 normal KP that he's sure will hit his target (it can't be RBed nor bussed). That's it. If the target is a vet (in the case of S&B) then he will be reduced 1 life, just like if he was a normal vig that wasn't bussed nor RBed.

It doesn't matter at all, so all that speculation Draz did was pointless.

austin: Thoughts about this? Thoughts about how last day was completely wasted and everybody just parked their vote on a townie and completely disappeared and didn't even try to get discussion going?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 07 2012 23:16 GMT
#1272
Jingle, I'm tired of you doing this shit to me. Just fucking stop.
I hope you are scum this game, I really do; I won't be depressed once the game ends at least.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 07 2012 23:20 GMT
#1275
On October 08 2012 08:13 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2012 08:08 gonzaw wrote:
Jingle, why were you here right before the deadline and didn't even try to get me lynched, specially when me/Draz/etc started voting for No-lynch and people started to back off Draz?


I was trying most of the day. Don't try and turn this into ME somehow being scummy, when everybody has listened to my reasons and said they still prefer Draz, what was I supposed to do?


I made an analysis about how you are likely town which means I'M NOT ACCUSING YOU STOP OVERREACTING GODDAMIT

It's something odd I noticed and wanted addressed.
You know, Keirathi once unvoted Draz, austin once said he'd vote for either me or Draz, there was quite a span of time where you could have used the momentum to lynch me.
Considering your behaviour I know you would have tried (although you would have been unsuccessful I suppose).
You haven't really tried to get me lynched D3 that much.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 07 2012 23:33 GMT
#1279
When did you start being active? As in, when did you come back to the thread?
Right before the deadline or before?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 07 2012 23:35 GMT
#1280
ERWOP: ^ to Jingle
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 08 2012 03:48 GMT
#1287
On October 08 2012 10:03 HiroPro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2012 09:44 strongandbig wrote:
Hiro! who would you rather lynch tomorrow ghost or gonzaw and why


gonzaw. He made a statement to the effect that if JingleHell didn't make a case against him that didn't revolve around himself/talk about misrepresentation/stuff like that, that he would consider him scum. JingleHell made a case that was pretty much the stuff gonzaw said he didn't want (and the way gonzaw treated the case also pretty much said gonzaw considered it trash like that), but he still just went with the "JingleHell is bad townie" view, even though what he said before suggested he would do the opposite. Then it's the fact that gonzaw seems to be alternately goading JingleHell into going after him and alternately complaining about how JingleHell keeps coming after about him - in part of his response to me about this point he seemed happy about JingleHell leaving off him for a bit and now he's wondering why JingleHell didn't go full throttle after him on day 3.

Partly also cause he could be either red or black mafia too.


That's a bad reason for thinking I'm scum.

Complaining Jingle only does against me: because it's the only thing he does and it's anti-town as fuck
Complaining that Jingle doesn't go against me when he had the chance to: because since it's the only thing he does, and if I assume he's tunneling townie, then that's what he would have done, so him not doing it is odd.

What would be the correct thing to do for Jingle that I wouldn't complain?: Take a step back, stop assuming I'm scum, try to get other people's reasoning instead of just trying to get people to lynch me, maybe even read past games of mine and compare my attitude in them, stop bitching against me and cool down, and contribute about other players and try to find scum in them as well.

When Jingle starts doing that, or just part of that, you won't see me complain at all.


Hiro, what do you think of austin?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 08 2012 03:49 GMT
#1288
On October 08 2012 11:31 Keirathi wrote:
So, I've been sitting here staring at the reply box for like an hour now, trying to wrap my head around this game.

And I cant. I literally just have nothing.

The only person, aside from S&B, that I would even give any sort of town read to right now is HiroPro.

My brain feels like its fried, and I'm pretty damn frustrated.

I've come to the conclusion that I am just a terrible player when it comes to playing town.


Welcome to my world

At least people think you are town and are not tunneling you since D1 or starting to bandwagon against you now; so don't complain that much.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 08 2012 04:08 GMT
#1290
I'll admit not everything you say is "bad", but most of it, or at least what I notice whenever I see your posts is.
If it's the stuff about iamperfection, or being "wishy-washy" on D1, or "blue-fishing", yes they are not "completely stupid points", but I explained myself on them.

So, when did you go from not accusing me and wanting to ignore my tunneling, to thinking it's scummy? I assume it's got everything to do with what different people have to say.


Whenever I start doubting my reads I always start thinking "Jingle's actions could come from scum", and of course you tunneling me like that easily makes me think you can be scum, and then I start to doubt you.
If all the guys I think are scum flip town, then I have no choice but to rethink my stance on you.

I really want to see you contributing about other players. So far I think you only made like 1 post in the past 72 hours or so about some people you thought could be scum and other than "Draz seems like a VI" or "Hiro is innocuous" I don't see you posting thoughts or reads on anybody at all.
That's what makes me doubt my read on you most of the time

You have yet to answer the majority of my complaints. Most of them get ignored, shit-talked, or contradictory responses. Or your classic "Jingle so mean to me".


I think I respond to all of yours. Unless it's those snarky comments you make some times after I make a post which I don't see the point in responding to other than saying "that's wrong".
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 08 2012 04:31 GMT
#1293
@Jingle: Nope, I don't remember you posting thorough thoughts of people. I remember you saying that "Mattchew isn't that bad since he got an invite" or something like that, and that "S&B and Kei don't seem like scum"....but I don't consider that "contribution" since you didn't really explain anything about your reads.
Oh, I also remember the "I could entertain the ghost-Xfire connection", but again, there's no explanation nor "contribution".


The fact is, you can say what you like about it, but, deliberate or not, you're ignoring a lot of my play this game.


I don't think I'm doing that.

Your opinion of me changes almost every time you post talking about me, frequently depending on who's active in the thread.


Do you have any examples? I don't remember doing that.


Jingle, will you read my past games? Just go to my profile and check whatever you want.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 08 2012 04:55 GMT
#1296
On October 08 2012 13:38 JingleHell wrote:
If you go to the effort of posting your past games in your profile, you're probably aware of your meta as a tool, and not above using it to your benefit, so no, I won't check your other games.


...why would you think that?

I post my past games in my profile to spare people the time and effort of asking which games I've been in and manually searching them.
It's being considerate not "using meta as a tool".

Keirathi, Austin, basically anyone else, can you confirm for the guy who's skipping inconvenient parts of my filter that I've discussed things besides him, even if pushing him has been my primary thing, due to nearly everything he does seeming somewhat scummy to me?


I never said your filter, I said in the last 72 hours. Basically N2 and D3.

And yes, your opinion of me changes incessantly. It's back and forth between "Probably bad town" and "possibly scum" and "if you don't do X I'll get you lynched" on a rather regular basis. I'm pretty sure there's some supplements that help with short term memory loss, but I forgot what they are.


How's that relevant to who's active in the thread?
Yes, I "flip-flop" in the sense that I always try to rethink about my stance on you and take a step back and see if I fucked up with my town read on you or not.

What I don't remember is doing that depending on who's active in the thread which is what you claimed.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 08 2012 05:04 GMT
#1298
*sigh* Nevermind, let's not do this again.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 08 2012 05:09 GMT
#1300
I really want to see you contributing about other players. So far I think you only made like 1 post in the past 72 hours or so about some people you thought could be scum and other than "Draz seems like a VI" or "Hiro is innocuous" I don't see you posting thoughts or reads on anybody at all.


"Not contributing on other players" and "Not tunneling the hell out of me" aren't exclusive.
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