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On September 30 2012 12:05 BlackMamba24 wrote: since sign-ups are slow i'm gonna start the game in 55 minutes so role pms will be going out Rofl I guess its okay since we have an extra 24. If im town  | ||
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On September 30 2012 13:30 Shady Sands wrote: Broodking, you're posting without offering any ANALysis JUST SAYING YOU ARE TOWN ANALyze and MAKE A VOTE OR I WILLLLLL STRIKE DOWN UPON THEE WITH GREAT VENGEANCE AND FURIOUS ANGER THOSE WHO ATTEMPT TO POISON AND DESTROY MY BROTHERS. AND YOU WILL KNOW MY NAME IS THE LORD WHEN I LAY MY VENGEANCE UPON YOU!@@@@ Fuck you, you rando-voting, non-constructive, bitch-ass punk motherfucker. lol | ||
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On October 01 2012 05:09 kushm4sta wrote: TT just don't read my posts if you can't stand them. I dont even know how you came to that conclusion from his only post. Im more interested in how Z-Boson can believe the coinflip of Shady. He comes in and policy votes a troll, yet he doesn't question Shady's intentions one bit. Personally I think that whole coinflip is totally fake and he is trying to buy brownie points from the town (not really alignment indicative though). | ||
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On September 30 2012 23:18 kushm4sta wrote: That's why I said policy lynch not scum lynch. And yeah I realize this is a contradiction from saying top scumread gets vote but I don't have a top scumread so it goes to a policy vote. Also making too big of a deal of this, but I am happy to entertain any and all questions nevertheless. @Kush I've been looking over your stance on Shady in the early game and it was all over the place. Culminating in this which mirrors what you initially said. Here is my chain on your changing reasons for voting shady: Policy/called you a troll==> called you a troll/mean ==> scum ==> he is spamming ==> policy. What ai can draw is that you initially disliked his content for being spammy but voted for him mostly because he called you a troll (which in reality you are known for). At some point you mentioned scum read, but you say that was a mistake. Why didn't you just stick with a policy on Shady as opposed to putting a bunch of reasons that you didn't really believe i the first place? | ||
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On October 01 2012 10:42 kushm4sta wrote: Do you honestly think scum shady would use that terrible plan? The nature of his trolling was obvious unsustainable throughout the game. What you're implying is that town Shady would use that terrible plan, which is basically the same difference. | ||
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On October 01 2012 10:54 marvellosity wrote: P.S. GUISE! Am I the only one who wants to use the voting thread?! Yeah I dont wanna here any of this I never actually voted in the thread shit. | ||
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##Vote: Shady Sands IllI be around for the next twenty. | ||
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On October 02 2012 11:00 kingjames01 wrote: What if we switch targets and Shady Sands casts a last minute vote to avoid the modkill? That never happens. Can someone give me a quick node reason, AFAIK hes a lurker | ||
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On October 02 2012 12:55 annul wrote: we have 22 minutes. node got 8 votes in 12. anything can happen. Annul WTF is up with your kush scum read? You keep hinting that you think he is scum, but go out on the limb and commuinicate with him a couple times. | ||
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@Boson LVII was way different from his usual play. He usually posts in big chunks full of good stuff, but he was tracker so he was trying to lay low. His play here doesn't feel like he is a blue though. P.S. I dont think you're scum anymore. | ||
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Mattchew's filter On September 30 2012 14:48 Mattchew wrote: that just means nothing of value has been posted (although value has been attempted) kush lets talk for a moment, tell me more about your vote on shady Mattchew starts off the game like most other people. He looks at Shady's trolling as as a failure. But then he goes after Kush for his voting of Shady. On September 30 2012 15:02 Mattchew wrote: i re-read shady's "trolling" and it seems extremely forced and thought out. this is either proof to his point of him trying to get warned or him being too nervous to troll casually because he is scum. This post is wishy-washy as hell. What do we conclude from this point? Nothing. + Show Spoiler + On September 30 2012 23:31 Mattchew wrote: His trolling didn't read like a player just taking a piss (trying out this expression), he had to try too hard at it with and lay it on thick with the alternating caps. He did however clearly put thought into what he was typing out and didnt just type random non-sense into the thread, like how he calls out players for fluff and shit in all of his posts instead of actually trolling around like others do. This is why his trolling feels off and extremely forced, instead of light-hearted and care-free. annul's post at the time included important setup discussion that I missed in the flavor despite reading it myself. It turns out to not be true and takes away all value... I am disappointed annul didn't follow up with any discussion about the on-going game afterwards Read this, he tries to get to a point that Shady's trolling feels forced. Yet he from the previous post I can imply that he thinks its neither a townie nor scum trait. Yet he never explicitly says that he thinks it is a scum or town trait. You could argue that the first question implied that he thought Shady was town, but even so why didn't Matt just come out and say it? I think its because he wanted the lynch to blossom into what it did. This lack of commitment to one side or the other makes him scum in my eyes. From there he goes and makes a vote for KJ (puts up austin/sloosh/coag), drops the vote. Out of those three he only pulls sloosh as scum. | ||
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On October 06 2012 04:51 Coagulation wrote: why the fuck am I on the list? Im sorry but I have done nothing to look scummy at all. Maybe im not the most active player here but that sure as fuck doesnt indicate that im scum in any way. Omg, this post reeks of scumminess. Why the hell are you so defensive about Shiao's read of you? What about the rest of the guys on that list? You know how bad that read list is so you have no reason to clear yourself. | ||
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On October 06 2012 05:27 Coagulation wrote: yeah im just desperate you got me bro. Thank god your internet came back on for you to come crack this game wide open. Great answer. But seriously why are you so defensive about such a casual FoS? And how could you assume he disliked your inactiveness. There are tons of inactive players (im the most at this point), so you didn't need to make that distinction at all. | ||
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On October 06 2012 06:00 Coagulation wrote: he fucking said im not contributing enough to get a read on me. read the fucking thread. Im blind, find it for me. My quick ctrl-f and scan through have only pulled your name once: On October 06 2012 03:40 ShiaoPi wrote: LoL, you will just call me out for not doing cases again if I drop reads without reasoning, whatever the fuck here comes: scummy as hell: VE, Coag and Matt, various reasons for each, but mainly for being vets their impact has been close to zero in this game. scumleaning: BC, Sloosh and whoever replaces for Node, I know I had him more on the townieside but fuck it no reason at all to go MIA like this. kind of wary off: Sharrant, risk, fuba, boson and kush Es-tu satisfait de mon travail, mon ami? | ||
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You guys are doing a good job of teaching me about breadcrumbing. LVII was terrible for me. | ||
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On October 06 2012 11:03 Hapahauli wrote: @ DP I disagree. Kush drops WIFOM bombs as either alignment. The one thing that could be interpreted as scummy is him semi-trolling you, but it looks more like a joke than something you should take at face value. He's much less angry than the scumplay I'm used to seeing out of him. He could've learned, but I'm leaning town on him unless there's something really egregiously scummy in his filter that I haven't seen (like him knowing you were town in XXVIII). What do you think of Hapa's response DP? Personally I find his constant soft defense of Kush pretty damning considering Kush's play this game. | ||
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On October 06 2012 16:04 Promethelax wrote: + Show Spoiler + Sorry for any crazy in this post I've been out drinking (and more) since my last post in thread, I think I'm sober now but we'll see. Since my first game with Imperfect where we were both scum (XIX) I feel generally decent at reading him. I like the kid a lot which helps, I think. The thing is in this game he hasn't stood out to me, nothing he does takes him to the next leve as either scummy or Towniel. Imperfect is a smart player who knows better than to lurk this much so his actions worry me, I have him in my Null column but I hope he is town as I like him a lot and his analysis always helps me solidify my own understanding of the game. I don;t like the connection theory until on of Risk Iamp flips and I think Risk is much more likely to be scum. hey Austin, bro, care to share your reasons? What about hapa's plays to or detracts from this read? Since Annul was not scum how does your read of Node change? + Show Spoiler + On October 03 2012 06:44 austinmcc wrote: Headed out soon for the evening, may not be back before deadline. Node scum. If node scum, annul and Z-BosoN scum. mkfuba very scummy. annul is odd no matter node's alignment, but I'd be much more convinced of SCUM if node is red. slOosh's return and look at mattchew strike me as not-scum. BC and coag feel kind of distant. BC entered thread with a lot of thoughts yesterday, but mainly just called half the thread scummy (mainly for doing things that were scummy). I wish he'd interacted more with thread towards deadline last night, and I wish he'd have some thoughts on people who aren't scummy and whatnot. Coag I have never played with, and he's kind of in the same boat - wherefore art thou Coageo? I think the meta arguments on Kush are overblown. If he's got a clear town meta and scum meta, and then is clearly told the difference between those two, then the whole thing flies out the window slightly. Unless he's got oodles and oodles of games where he's clearly town or scum, he can just play like he normally would with less f bombs and know he'll look townie on meta. So I don't give them too much credence. that leaves out a whole lotta players. Some, like BKE/Talismania were active early on and then completely absent. And why are you so focused on the Janitor role and Node? Sorry I just picked up on that on this read through of your filter. Since this happened + Show Spoiler + On October 02 2012 09:00 austinmcc wrote: Another interesting mention of Shady: These feel like incredibly bad reasons for a townread. I don't see how NoT coNtINUinG TYpINg LIKe tHIs and throwing a bunch of obscenities around is townie. I don't see Shady pushing other targets. I'm interested in BC's thoughts on Shady. I think Node's thoughts, already given, make Node look scummy. Your only posts have been about Node and Janitors. Why tunnel so much, you are better than this. Oh never mind, I see Hapa is claiming scum with his actions after the day post. ##Vote: hapa. Die Scum, and think this through you could have fought for yourself way to fold up and die (you are as bad as i was last time we played together). Dont post while drunk Austin is dead. How do your reads change? | ||
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On October 03 2012 00:14 Coagulation wrote: yay I made the list This is Coag's reaction to being on austin's list. + Show Spoiler [Austin's post] + Coagulation - On October 02 2012 12:17 Coagulation wrote: Wagon looks scummy. No substantive thoughts on Node. Everyone keep your votes on shady sands. Node bandwagon looked scummy as fuck and only makes shady look even scummier. On October 06 2012 04:51 Coagulation wrote: why the fuck am I on the list? Im sorry but I have done nothing to look scummy at all. Maybe im not the most active player here but that sure as fuck doesnt indicate that im scum in any way. This reaction is totally different, but the accusations behind them are virtually the same. Austin's a townie so I feel its some sort of weird distancing strat on Coag's part. + Show Spoiler [Shiao's post] + On October 06 2012 03:40 ShiaoPi wrote: LoL, you will just call me out for not doing cases again if I drop reads without reasoning, whatever the fuck here comes: scummy as hell: VE, Coag and Matt, various reasons for each, but mainly for being vets their impact has been close to zero in this game. scumleaning: BC, Sloosh and whoever replaces for Node, I know I had him more on the townieside but fuck it no reason at all to go MIA like this. kind of wary off: Sharrant, risk, fuba, boson and kush Es-tu satisfait de mon travail, mon ami? | ||
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On October 07 2012 06:11 Promethelax wrote: Interesting. I hadn't noticed this. So do you feel that both Coag and Shio are scum? How about VE who Coag is also reacting to poorly when called out by. Matt and Risk, where in the bloody hells are you? You have only come back to the thread to write off my questioning of you and summarily vanished again. What are your reads, what has changed for you after the Night Kills? Yeah Coag for reasons I've made already. Shiao cause he isn't playing to his meta and that list of reads. It irks me that his top reads hadn't been mentioned at all and seemed to be a meshing together of people that were viewed as scummy in the thread. His fuba case was basically a rehash of fuba's day 1 actions, not having an ounce of analysis. + Show Spoiler + On October 04 2012 02:28 ShiaoPi wrote: okay I am heading to bed now, sharing this before I do so: mkfuba07: First thing that struck me was the timing of the early game movements fuba did with marv. This + Show Spoiler + On October 02 2012 07:19 mkfuba07 wrote: I'm back from class and should be here until the lynch. Like marv I may have to reconsider KJ. If he's bound to give himself away with his actions pretty quickly, then I can wait it out. I never found his "spy slip" scummy, just his interaction with Kei where he seemed to be implying that Kei was scummy, only to follow it up by saying he didn't say that. It could be considered as an accusation and distancing, but it could just be statement of facts as he saw them. My problem is that I'm not sure about voting for kush or shady. I'm not a fan of how either of them are playing, but I don't necessarily get scum from them. Shady is being incredibly strange with his absence, but that's not in keeping with either his town or scum metas. I didn't like Kush's policy lynch because "shady was mean to me", but that also doesn't tell me anything about his alignment. I'm going to take a look at austin. I'll also probably think a bit about mementoss, just 'cause. On October 02 2012 07:13 marvellosity wrote: Your point on austin is way better though, BC There are a couple of things about austin: - he gives way too much thought and time to setup speculation and shenannies and can go off on tangents. So with that alone I wouldn't find him banging on about spy that relevant, except for two things (which you mention) - the fact that it specifies pretty damn clearly in the OP that all available role names are known to us - that's all he's talked about having been absent for a long time. If you're gonna derp around talking about setup and spy lololol you'd imagine you'd at least fucking read the setup first. Gonna give his filter another look. Anyway I'm gonna unvote kj for now ##unvote Only half an hour passes and fuba is here: + Show Spoiler + On October 02 2012 07:46 mkfuba07 wrote: What bothers me most about austin is what's already been said: he apologizes for his absence, and then follows it up by only mentioning the spy-slip. Is that really all there is to talk about right now? His first post of the game also bothers me. You'd think that since it was such a "fun night" he would have a lot to comment on, but for over 24 hours all he mentions is how something kush has said isn't as scummy as some people apparently find it. After that he gets trapped in spy-slip land, when that issue can be resolved by reading the OP. He's posted a lot (comparatively) and yet has said little except that he didn't find kush too scummy hours ago. Not sure if scummy or just busy+confused... While his vote comes later at around 8:30 timestamp, keep this in mind for the bigger picture. Now to his voting behaviour closer to lynch + Show Spoiler + On October 02 2012 12:33 mkfuba07 wrote: ##Unvote Austin's posts since returning have made me throw that vote out the window. As for Node's posting frequency, I don't see that as much different than his behavior in DN mafia... Does he normally contribute more? As for his content, I see the slight "lie" but I can see no reason to intentionally "lie" like that as scum. What would he gain? Of the two on the block right now, I'd rather vote for Shady. As I said before, I'm not naturally inclined to vote for him D1, but I don't want to vote for someone who I haven't seen anything scummy from. While I didn't see his excuse for trolling as terribly scummy, and I believe his absence could be explained somehow, the fact that he hasn't done it or actively participated in any way since his last post makes me want him gone. ##Vote Shady Sands He now is content with a shady lynch before switching it up again after half an hour + Show Spoiler + On October 02 2012 13:05 mkfuba07 wrote: Ugh, this is driving me crazy. I'm not a huge fan of any of the possibilities... I'm going to change my vote again. If we can get a better replacement for Shady I think keeping him in is going to be better than keeping Node in. I got completely screwed in DN Mafia because it was down to Node, myself, another pretty inactive player, and scum marv, and there was no discussion. I don't want to be in that situation again. Not sure if this will do anything, but: ##Unvote ##Vote Node Now why the hell does he bank on a modkill (that like in 99% of the cases does not come) and tries to lynch node again? Feels a lot like confusing town and disrupting us in the crucial timeperiod around lynch. After the lynch he gets asked about an update on Node and he gives out this: + Show Spoiler + On October 03 2012 06:25 mkfuba07 wrote: I'm still feeling really stupid for not being able to understand what's so scummy about Node's defense of Shady. There were plenty of good players voting for Node, and as town OR scum I don't see them voting for someone for stupid reasons. Despite what you've said before, I have been reading the thread. My reading comprehension being as crappy as it is, I can't pinpoint what makes his defense scummy. Did scum Node gain something from lying in his defense of Shady? Or was it just that he appeared to not be reading the thread, and is trying to participate with a minimum of effort/gaining some town-cred for defending town-Shady? Or something else entirely that I haven't considered because I'm bad at this game? ...(checking through filters)... ...And now, having more closely checked the the timestamps, which I incorrectly read last time, Node's jumped up quite a bit in scumminess. When I looked the first time, I missed the fact that the two posts (shady's last post where he actually made a read at all, and Node's defense) were on different days. I thought Node's happened within hours of Shady's FoS on kush, so I didn't really see it as too absurd for him to say that Shady had been pushing targets. I think I now understand why the defense was scummy (and I feel like a dumbass for not being able to read). Shady did nothing to warrant defending him, and the fact that Node defended him, with evidence that was the opposite of the truth, is strange. The fact that Node seemed to have reasons to find Shady town when the evidence he provides is contrived makes me think that he had another reason to believe Shady to be town that he didn't want to mention. Thus, Node seems scummy. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this feels right to me. Basically you can sum it up as "I dunno, he seems scummy" It's a great wall of fluff besides the timestamp remark. Keeps pushing node and throws annul into the mix as scum as well for being against the node lynch. Now after the nightphase resolves and marv is as good as confirmed scum through his reactions he goes after VE. While I can understand it (having made suspicions on VE as well) it feels quite sudden. No mentions of VE earlier and no more mentioning of Node. He also occasionally calls mementoss out (which is pretty easy to do anyway). Summarizing: I think there is a decent chance for fuba to flip scum, reasoning: fuba was more or less following marv during day 1 play, continued to try to push for Node but as soon as marv gets outed he switches onto VE with no more mentioning of Node, whom he previously had targeted quite extensively. What happened to your Node read fuba? On another note, BKE, what have you been doing all game long? Who is your highest read besides the no-brainer vote on marv? Coags response to VE(clicky!) seems closer to the Austin response, and VE had a deeper accusation so Im not going to draw a scumread from that alone. VE's meta has been changing drastically in the last few games Ive played with him, so its hard to get a good read. | ||
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On October 07 2012 17:29 ShiaoPi wrote: DP, you know my meta, I am a horribly bad townie in the first couple of cycles, always lurking around and stuff, now I tried to make an effort earlier with the fuba-case (granted not very good) and I get called out for that shizzle. Seeing all of you call for my death because of "meta" is so fucking ridiculous. If you want to meta-analyse me then do it properly by only comparing the bigger games (LVI, LVII) and the first cycles in there, see any difference? I am playing like I always do in large games..... LVII was a whole different matter DP, you know that just as well as I do, the situations are not even remotely comparable. The case of our french dude was weak, I already answered it. I do give a shit about town, I just get lazy since we got 2 cycles of 100%-red lynches now already. Your meta is shit for those two games and you know it. You played bad in LVI and you were blue in LVII. When you make a case on someone it doesn't depend on the size of the game. It depends on how bad you believe someone is scum and how much you can prove that. In games Ive played with you before formal cases have hard evidence. the fuba case is a retelling of events and a bad connection between marv and his actions. | ||
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On October 08 2012 08:45 risk.nuke wrote: nice case BC, I can also spend 5 minutes too call all the afk vets scummy for beeing afk. Really nice demonstration of your scumhuntingskills. And you're different how? I'd feel better if you actually spent 5 minutes to call someone scum. | ||
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On October 08 2012 08:47 Coagulation wrote: Im not scum. Dont say I didnt warn you. Ask me anything. Im 100% open to answer any questions. K give me a legit reason behind you responses to VE, Shiao and Austin. And why only now you've decided to respond to accusations as opposed to posts like this: On October 07 2012 03:36 Coagulation wrote: yeah im not scum but nice try. | ||
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On October 09 2012 06:10 Mementoss wrote: well of course thats what your gunna claim because thats the only way you would be town, its possible though I don't know if its true lol. I said SK because I just relate 3rd party with SK for some reason. Well this post answers my first question. The reason Im asking is that there are a bunch of unaccounted kills then. Two people die N1 and one N2. I highly doubt scum have 1KP or that we have meds and vets everywhere. | ||
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On October 18 2012 14:51 Z-BosoN wrote: Yea, I guess I gave setup speculation too much focus. I was extremely confused though, and thought that maybe understanding the setup would be helpful in determining the likelihood of certain things. Boy was I wrong. I think were all confused, everyone was acting somewhat scummy. The lurkiness didnt help. At least it wasn't as out there as talis. | ||
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On October 18 2012 21:37 Kreb wrote: I gues you have a point about Shiao, but I dont have that meta knowledge really. Last game he was quite inactive until only like 5-6ppl remained too so I didnt consider him to be too far off compared to what I saw him as town. Sloosh I wouldve found it very hard to lynch for that reason though. There were practically identical cases on Sloosh, VE, BC, Mattchew. And probably to a lesser extent on one or two more. "Too off their meta, much less helpful than usual". I dont think anyone couldve confidently single out Sloosh's scummyness compared to the others. Especially if you dont have any meta knowledge about them yourself. But maybe I should be harder on non-contributors. Its probably gonna lead to quite a few policy-mislycnhes, but in the end maybe its worth it. Meta's tough you have to look at a majority of their games, otherwise you get a lot of outliers. Shiao's last few games have been bad for his meta. LVI was bad play and LVII he was tracker. Their not the best indicators of town play, but LVII gives you the impression that he is at least not his townie self. But I only know that because Ive played games way back with Shiao as townie. @Marv, do you think inactivity is a big indicator of scum players? I feel like quality of posting matters more, no? | ||
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On October 18 2012 23:10 ShiaoPi wrote: Hmmm I think it seemed rather obvious that I was scum, I did not even really try to make sense/get thread presence, also you really should have latched onto iamps comment on GSL 2 mini. I think in regards to meta of me, just take a look at BH's case against me, I was scared as fuck as I read it, because it was like 99% correct :D Yeah I should've add Coag to the troll list. | ||
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On October 19 2012 06:32 marvellosity wrote: Not really. I just remember what I said. And it's ok to change your mind on someone if you explain it. I think the only reason I get lynch for contradiction is if I dont pay attention to what Im posting. I think I write one thing but when people read it the idea seems totally different. If you can get that exact idea down accurately, town will be able to see the change. | ||
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On October 20 2012 00:45 Mattchew wrote: Yeah but confirmed lynches buy so much time for town. Its way better if you put those reads out right away before someone does something stupid and get their ass lynched.Yeah pyp I figured was over cause we had a set lynch list (that woulda won the game had someone I forget who, showed up and voted) In movie mafia I was pretty active and made a lot of reads... I was also scum so it was hard to post especially when I didn't have time to read I guess I don't like sharing reads when they don't matter at all... When the lynch is set you are just making yourself a better mafia target and I like surviving... It's sucks that the weekend was when I was lynched because that's when im at my lowest activity but I don't think I made myself unreadable. | ||
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