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On October 13 2012 10:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 10:38 iamperfection wrote:On October 13 2012 10:35 Kreb wrote:On October 13 2012 10:29 iamperfection wrote:On October 13 2012 10:24 Kreb wrote:On October 13 2012 10:21 iamperfection wrote:
.....BloodyC0bbler you accuse ve of not playing his role properly yet you yourself are the one that LIED causing the shit storm of what claims we should believe. Your lying showed you cared of one thing and one thing only your survival. You can die now 3rd party. We should of lynched you the second we found out about your lie it makes no sense from a town perspective. Your lying only pushed forward your interests of survival.
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O.o Wait, what? How did BCs lie cause MMToss or VE to claim? And what the shitstorm about it anyway, everyone is (supposedly) playing towards their wincon, Town by rightfully claiming Town, scum by making false claims. Shitstorm? Elaborate please. Ve claimed he was a veteran but first he claimed medic protection. He lied kill him. Its not optimal play no matter what he says it just leads to confusion. Why should i believe anything BloodyC0bbler say in relation to anything. And i didnt say it caused somebody to claim i said it just adds to confusion because his lie causes confusion with relation to other players claims. I must say I dont really see the confusing part. He lied for a reason that to me makes sense from a town perspective. And no, you shouldnt believe him if you're sure hes 3rd party. But I cant discern how you are so sure about that. What if he actually IS veteran? Doesnt all make sense then? of course im not 100% sure stop playing stupid word games. I was under the impression that gambits like this were bad. Why would he need to lie if was town? just so the mafia wont shoot again. give me a break a town member should not worry about whether he lives or dies. My play may not have been the best this game, but I have put forth more overall contribution then most players still alive. Also given that near universally the biggest point of suspicion I was garnering for ages was "hes still alive" obviously the expectation of me is to perform at a far higher level then most players. As such would me wanting to survive to attempt to reach that expectation be far more intelligent then say, saying "im a vet, feel free to shoot me now"
nope you shouldn't really give a shit about survivng. if you were town you should have been contributed the entire time you were not. and not playing silly gambits. I didnt know the key to a town victory was having you last as long as possible. Give me a break.
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On October 13 2012 10:49 Kreb wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 10:38 iamperfection wrote:On October 13 2012 10:35 Kreb wrote:On October 13 2012 10:29 iamperfection wrote:On October 13 2012 10:24 Kreb wrote:On October 13 2012 10:21 iamperfection wrote:
.....BloodyC0bbler you accuse ve of not playing his role properly yet you yourself are the one that LIED causing the shit storm of what claims we should believe. Your lying showed you cared of one thing and one thing only your survival. You can die now 3rd party. We should of lynched you the second we found out about your lie it makes no sense from a town perspective. Your lying only pushed forward your interests of survival.
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O.o Wait, what? How did BCs lie cause MMToss or VE to claim? And what the shitstorm about it anyway, everyone is (supposedly) playing towards their wincon, Town by rightfully claiming Town, scum by making false claims. Shitstorm? Elaborate please. Ve claimed he was a veteran but first he claimed medic protection. He lied kill him. Its not optimal play no matter what he says it just leads to confusion. Why should i believe anything BloodyC0bbler say in relation to anything. And i didnt say it caused somebody to claim i said it just adds to confusion because his lie causes confusion with relation to other players claims. I must say I dont really see the confusing part. He lied for a reason that to me makes sense from a town perspective. And no, you shouldnt believe him if you're sure hes 3rd party. But I cant discern how you are so sure about that. What if he actually IS veteran? Doesnt all make sense then? of course im not 100% sure stop playing stupid word games. I was under the impression that gambits like this were bad. Why would he need to lie if was town? just so the mafia wont shoot again. give me a break a town member should not worry about whether he lives or dies. This is going into some kind of game-theory-land now: But if you believe yourself to be an above average player of your team, you SHOULD want to sac other members of your team before yourself if thats what it comes down to. So caring about his own survival doesnt have to be anti-town, it can be very much pro-town.
that bullshit for a mafia game. Why would anyone believe a late game BloodyC0bbler if he has to sacrifice being a legitimate town player. He would have to lie and make himself look scummy in order to survive and then when it comes to late game the town will now suddenly believe him? Ya come on that doesn't apply here.
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On October 13 2012 10:59 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 10:53 iamperfection wrote:On October 13 2012 10:49 Kreb wrote:On October 13 2012 10:38 iamperfection wrote:On October 13 2012 10:35 Kreb wrote:On October 13 2012 10:29 iamperfection wrote:On October 13 2012 10:24 Kreb wrote:On October 13 2012 10:21 iamperfection wrote:
.....BloodyC0bbler you accuse ve of not playing his role properly yet you yourself are the one that LIED causing the shit storm of what claims we should believe. Your lying showed you cared of one thing and one thing only your survival. You can die now 3rd party. We should of lynched you the second we found out about your lie it makes no sense from a town perspective. Your lying only pushed forward your interests of survival.
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O.o Wait, what? How did BCs lie cause MMToss or VE to claim? And what the shitstorm about it anyway, everyone is (supposedly) playing towards their wincon, Town by rightfully claiming Town, scum by making false claims. Shitstorm? Elaborate please. Ve claimed he was a veteran but first he claimed medic protection. He lied kill him. Its not optimal play no matter what he says it just leads to confusion. Why should i believe anything BloodyC0bbler say in relation to anything. And i didnt say it caused somebody to claim i said it just adds to confusion because his lie causes confusion with relation to other players claims. I must say I dont really see the confusing part. He lied for a reason that to me makes sense from a town perspective. And no, you shouldnt believe him if you're sure hes 3rd party. But I cant discern how you are so sure about that. What if he actually IS veteran? Doesnt all make sense then? of course im not 100% sure stop playing stupid word games. I was under the impression that gambits like this were bad. Why would he need to lie if was town? just so the mafia wont shoot again. give me a break a town member should not worry about whether he lives or dies. This is going into some kind of game-theory-land now: But if you believe yourself to be an above average player of your team, you SHOULD want to sac other members of your team before yourself if thats what it comes down to. So caring about his own survival doesnt have to be anti-town, it can be very much pro-town. that bullshit for a mafia game. Why would anyone believe a late game BloodyC0bbler if he has to sacrifice being a legitimate town player. He would have to lie and make himself look scummy in order to survive and then when it comes to late game the town will now suddenly believe him? Ya come on that doesn't apply here. Go read games like closed casket where I was town. I have made up complete roles as town to attempt an early game win given how 100% sure I was on my reads / to make mafia shoot me. Me playing in a way to fuck with mafia's heads is actually quite standard of my play given that It is how I play.
can you provide a link im looking through your profile and i cant find that game.
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I read mattchews case on me as misguided townie. the reason i wanted to not lynch kush is because i thought he was town. However i don't think a scum mattchew would come in here and try to get case on me its just seems pointless to me. I feel i have very little chance of getting lynched and i dont see the purpose of the scum team coming after me.
Shaopi has still done nothing to make me think he is town. Shaopi recent indicate he is not trying to figure out if someone is scum or not. Instead he comes into the thread with herp derp obvious scum slip is obvious. He is not open to the possibilities and is not trying to figure out other players alignments.
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On October 14 2012 07:32 Coagulation wrote:
iamperfection the point of scum going after you despite you not being a threat of being lynched is because he doesnt have to worry about explaining he was wrong and looking anti town if you flip town and he can look like hes contributing without actually contributing.
maybe but at least mattchew had the decency to say he didn't give a shit earlier. Shao pi is the real fake contributer. He has tried to not to stick out and his activity is a huge tell after he openly complained about activity in his last game. His non contributions have done nothing for us.
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On October 14 2012 08:14 Z-BosoN wrote:
DP is my top scumread, I've been trying to push him since forever, but no one seems to find him scummy, so =/
shaopi is voting for dp.
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someone tell me why shaopi is town.
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On October 14 2012 09:42 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2012 09:41 iamperfection wrote:
someone tell me why shaopi is town. Is that a trick question?
nope you should vote for him.
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On October 14 2012 09:46 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2012 09:44 iamperfection wrote:On October 14 2012 09:42 DarthPunk wrote:On October 14 2012 09:41 iamperfection wrote:
someone tell me why shaopi is town. Is that a trick question? nope you should vote for him. Will you vote for Z-B?
nope
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On October 14 2012 09:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
Where the fuck are Mementoss and Kei? GOD FUCKING DAMNIT
Would you like to lynch shao pi?
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i think z-boson didnt vote in the thread either so his vote isnt on shaopi right now.
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On October 14 2012 10:27 ShiaoPi wrote:
Good morning....
I love getting wagoned to death for lack of activity. Let' s get this out first: I know that I am terribly inactive and stuff. Probably warrants the policy lynch pulled on me now. Sorry to disappoint you guys thiugh, I will flip town
What makes all of you think that DP is town? please remember walls of tedt and activity are not exclusiveley towntraits. DP's flip flopping of opinions on kush, the slip with kp and lack of backbone when trying to push his reads is alarming, damning qnd most surely his scumplay. Sine I am still not at home, I cannot make a fullfledged case with quotes etc. to cement my read on him and concinve you (phone is terrible for typing anyway...) Please do me the favor of reading the discussions beyween him and ve as well aw his interactions with boson. Also give the cases which were made on him a second dread. I am pretty sure that he is scum
why did you say i was acting like i did in gsl when i clearly was not?
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On October 14 2012 10:43 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2012 10:39 Coagulation wrote:
what the fuck would a no lynch do for us. Where did the KP go? It had to go somewhere. If they had an ability they could trade KP for, then it would probably activate today. Although I guess it could be something like Delay too. I don't buy that mafia didn't send in kills or roleblock.
what does that have to do with no lynch
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@Shiaopi
why were you overly aggressive on the supposed scum slip dp and get tunnel vision on him.
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On October 14 2012 10:53 Keirathi wrote:
I'll put my vote on whoever I damn well please, thanks.
I already said the people I would be eilling to vote for. I have 2 hours to make up my mind on if I want to change.
can you explain why you think a no lynch was a good idea.
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On October 14 2012 10:59 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2012 10:58 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On October 14 2012 10:56 Keirathi wrote:On October 14 2012 10:53 iamperfection wrote:On October 14 2012 10:53 Keirathi wrote:
I'll put my vote on whoever I damn well please, thanks.
I already said the people I would be eilling to vote for. I have 2 hours to make up my mind on if I want to change. can you explain why you think a no lynch was a good idea. I already did. VE made me paranoid that scum had an ability that they could use to change the flip today. If we no-lynched, there wouldn't be a flip to change. But, I said that without reading the op again to see if it was even possible to vote no-lynch. The only role in the game that could feasibly change a lynch flip was likely the coroner. Given that it is extremely unlikely scum had more then 1 of that role, I think we should be able to trust lynches at this point. Coroner hasn't flipped though?
that was ve's check
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when phone posting goes wrong
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On October 14 2012 11:09 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2012 11:00 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On October 14 2012 10:59 Keirathi wrote:On October 14 2012 10:58 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On October 14 2012 10:56 Keirathi wrote:On October 14 2012 10:53 iamperfection wrote:On October 14 2012 10:53 Keirathi wrote:
I'll put my vote on whoever I damn well please, thanks.
I already said the people I would be eilling to vote for. I have 2 hours to make up my mind on if I want to change. can you explain why you think a no lynch was a good idea. I already did. VE made me paranoid that scum had an ability that they could use to change the flip today. If we no-lynched, there wouldn't be a flip to change. But, I said that without reading the op again to see if it was even possible to vote no-lynch. The only role in the game that could feasibly change a lynch flip was likely the coroner. Given that it is extremely unlikely scum had more then 1 of that role, I think we should be able to trust lynches at this point. Coroner hasn't flipped though? If you believe VE at all (you seem to via you believe mafia has an ability that fucks with flips) then kush would have been said role and self used. The only reason anyone has ever thought that coroner could change a flip was because VE FUCKING SUGGESTED IT. In my experience, people only speculate about roles that they should have no fucking clue about when they actually have some information about said role.
Coroner is in the game... it has to do something.
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