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On October 14 2012 11:51 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2012 11:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On October 14 2012 11:37 DarthPunk wrote:
Do you really think another 72 hours of speculating on VE's alignment and the setup is good for town? If mafia shoot him and he flips, it confirms his checks. If mafia shoot one of his checks, it confirms his checks / him. Basically, to keep the speculating going means they have to guess who he will check / confirm next and narrow the noose. If he checks someone they don't shoot it reduces the possible pool of players. Him being alive backs them into a corner. This assumes He is town though. What if he is scum?
Again, they have to avoid shooting those he checks or it fucks him in the ass. As well it forces him to actually confirm some people (likely the early ones) as if he comes out saying "so and so is this" and they actually had a different role they could out him, etc...
If he calls one more person red based on his ability and they flip town he is 100% not town. However given all the information it is too convoluted for mafia to claim.
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Also, the mafia not shooting seems to be a ploy to get VE offed. As if they had fired near universally VE would be yelled at for the kush incident but the explanation of the coroner role would be accepted. Its the lack of anyone dying that has led to the real suspicion on him.
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On October 14 2012 11:58 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2012 11:56 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Also, the mafia not shooting seems to be a ploy to get VE offed. As if they had fired near universally VE would be yelled at for the kush incident but the explanation of the coroner role would be accepted. Its the lack of anyone dying that has led to the real suspicion on him. Why the fuck would scum not shoot in order to mislynch someone they could have shot. 0_o
Because if the coroner power we have assumed is accurate it would leave the mafia with a likely number of what? 1 or 2 members left?
Doing a play like that is basically the only thing they have left. Shooting him confirms players instantly, forcing town to misslynch allows them to off the confirmed players quickly.
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GG everyone.
VE is a confirmed PI, and mementoss confirmed power role. Neither are confirmed as town, but it is likely both are given they were both passively roleblocked by me. Coag is likely town as well.
Sloosh is scum, as is one of DP or shiaopi.
Sorry I couldn't be more help, but well, tis not my objective.
And with that I am pretty sure the day is over.
Good luck town, mafia dont deserve to win.
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On October 14 2012 13:02 Coagulation wrote:
whats up bc?
I won?
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hahaha. Not within my power.
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All town had to do was lynch the names I told them, lulululul.
I handed you guys the win and you still refused to take it. So sad.
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On October 18 2012 21:25 Kreb wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2012 21:23 Mementoss wrote:
Also fuck we shoulda lynched BC like I said, that woulda confirmed me so VE didn't have to waste check and it woulda confirmed mattchew. Then we coulda went to lynching sloosh and shiapi I wouldve revealed myself and pretty much confirmed him as Lucky Citizen in that case, so I dont think that would have happened. I was pretty close to revealing it at one point. Which is why I really wanna know how he knew of my role....
Marvellosity and I both did actuallly.
When they removed the role of "veteran" from the game as it was the miller role and I looked over the list of remaining roles the only one that was left that could be a vet was lucky citizen. It was pure setup speculation. Just as I accurately realized arsonist was a mad hatter role as I was the third party role 
Also, i have no idea how you guys believed I wanted VE dead after my exit game post where I say his role was confirmed and that he was likely town + giving you my scum reads.
My entire reasoning for the shit I did with VE was to tilt the thread and leave it confused to slip in a mattchew lynch. IE I had to do something to make sure people followed me on who I wanted to lynch to achieve my win condition. It is a shame paramedics played such a rampant role for the first few days of the game as I couldn't attempt my solo win because of it -_-
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no awesome vet play for your har har har
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On October 18 2012 21:29 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2012 21:03 marvellosity wrote:On October 18 2012 20:20 Kreb wrote:On October 18 2012 19:23 marvellosity wrote:
Kreb, if you'd have lynched VE all over again, then you've learnt nothing from this game. Go back and look at what you did wrong.
You realize thats not helping me, right? Without meaning to be rude, your own attitude isn't helping you. You just said, basically, "I committed this horrendous, game-losing mistake, but... yay! I'd do it again!" Which is silly. VE didn't play perfectly, but you went tunnel-tastic on him, and one of the roots of it was you WIFOMing on my actions. You were told by numerous players that using anything I did/said is an exercise in futility, as skilled scum players don't leave obvious tracks, and you can see this now. Again much as VE didn't play perfectly, there were far scummier players in the thread than VE. Both slOosh and ShiaoPi literally had no town features about their play. A couple of players made strong cases on DP (I believe relating to his kush flip flops etc?) as well as his large amount of implied knowledge about KP.You're not stupid by any means, and if you'd taken a step back from your VE case (when plenty of people told you to do so), you are quite capable of seeing these other things for yourself. The cases were not that strong. Not enough to get me lynched anyway.
Disagree. The reason you were never pushed for a lynch wasn't the strength of the case, but the people doing the pushing. You have to have the ability to out argue / push whoever is the dominant "thread leader" at the time. Pushing a lynch by me or VE was retardedly hard for anyone as both of us can just shut a player down with massive posts / convincing thread our case is better.
Also, given we had 3 days of blue checks to lynch from near no one was seriously talking cases as the game seemed that it was handed to us on a silver platter.
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EPT
