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So if VE sanity isn't guarenteed: Sane Cop: Always gets correct results (i.e. "guilty" for anti-Town roles and "innocent" for pro-Town roles) NOT Insane Cop: Always gets incorrect results (i.e. "guilty" for pro-Town roles and "innocent" for anti-Town roles) Possible Paranoid Cop: Always gets "guilty" results NOT Naive Cop: Always gets "innocent" results NOT Random Cop: Gets a randomized result without regard to who is investigated Possible So by this logic, we should be lynching Coag, in the case that VE is insane. | ||
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On October 11 2012 22:18 risk.nuke wrote: There are multiple scenarios. However sanity-cops are not a probable one. Coag is the absolutely last person we will lynch. He's almost certainly town regardless of viceras alignment. And by multiple scenarios you mean 3: VE is lieing -> Lynch VE VE is insane -> Lynch Coag Kush framed -> Lynch???? So by this logic you think there is a framer, but I know for a fact there is a roleblocker. There is no role that is unclaimed or unflipped that looks like a framer to mean, (or a role blocked) But I know one of them that looks mafia like, is probably a roleblocked. How is coag town regardless of VE's alignment, VE lies to give a town check on coag, and VE flipps scum, you still think coag is auto town? VE checks someone he knows is town and gets back a mafia check, you still think coag is town? | ||
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On October 11 2012 22:35 Z-BosoN wrote: I don't think that's advantageous right now. We should lynch whoever we find to be scum. While VEs claim is fishy as hell I think hed make a bad lynch for tomorrow. From reading the filters yesterday, I'd feel strongest towards a mattchew/shiaopi lynch. After settling down I've decided DP is more likely butthurt townie rather than his flamy scum. Sloosh, like I said, is playing quite differently this game, but I'm uneasy with his alignment. BC is sk and. Iamperfection and risk.nuke I have slight town reads on. Kreb is pretty damn townie. Keirathi is being extremely useless this game, is yet to make any contribution. The scum read I have on mattchew is more related to his "don't lynch shady for dumb reasons" post, and shiaopi more because of the meta reads spotted earlier. These are just my current thoughts on the game for now. Who would you lynch, mementoss? Depends entirely on the night actions can't explain now. But lynching based on filter/behaviour, I would say Shioapi | ||
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Iamp makes a good point about the role, but the only thing that irks me is no one counter claimed being roleblocked. Unless scum randomly decided not to use it night 1. | ||
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On October 11 2012 22:56 iamperfection wrote: ya that would have been silly for night 1 i think. and what do you mean about checking a confirmed townie how can he do that? if hes allowed to check dead/flipped players | ||
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That seems not right. Even his role check was wrong. So yeah I think sanities seem improbable. | ||
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On October 11 2012 21:47 Mementoss wrote: Trying to figure out the night kills: Night 1: Risen killed himself Anull killed by town vig KJ killed by ???? BC targetted by mafia KP Austin shot by ???? Mafia KP min 1 max 3 Night 2: Mkfuba killed himself Austin killed by mafia KP (assumption because he was a claimed save by medic -> confirmed townie status) ToutestChaos killed by ???? Mafia KP min 1 max 2 Night 3: Prometheax killed by mafia KP (assumed because confirmed town vig) Broodkingexe killed by ???? mafia kp min 1 max 2 My theory is that mafia KP is fixed at 2, and there was a hitman (mafia vig) on night 1. Or mafia KP was cut due to 2 lynches, and the extra KP is from SK. But that seems unlikely due to low amount of KP, 1 KP for mafia by night 2, would be very unlikely. Unless SK stopped shooting, or shots stacked. (SK -> 3rd party) Hitman Private Investigator Coroner Detective Paranoid Arsonist Assuming Night 1, mafia used a hitman (mafia vig) and have constant 2 KP. Knowing 100% there is a roleblocker, which of the remaining roles would make sense to be a framer? My thought stands, VE checks confirmed town if he can. But he can just lie about that. Gah. | ||
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On October 11 2012 23:13 Kreb wrote: Or wait a second again. If VEs role is a cop+rolecop, that means there must be a alignment+role Framer for Kush to have been Framed. Thats seems quite unlikely. Had Kush flipper Coroner it would have all made sense, but he flipped Vanilla Townie. It seems really unlikely theres a alignment+role Framer.... Thats what I was trying to say dawg | ||
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On October 12 2012 08:24 Z-BosoN wrote: So I've been reading VE's filter. Gonna leave the fact that his scumhunting is extremely lacking aside for now, because I've found something pretty interesting. VE claims he got Coag checked, and came back as townie on night 2. So I checked some dates, and look at this: The day 3 post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=371260¤tpage=72#1429 October 6. So supposedly he received that Coag is townie. Now, if he got the memo that Coag is town, then wtf is this shit: So I've figured both claims are bullshit now. VE's, however, seems even worse now. Unless I'm getting something real wrong here, he is effectively going after Coag as a cop who received a town check. The quotes above make it look legitimately like he's going after Coag, and not spouting discussion or whatever he might say. Discuss. LOL VE master claimer | ||
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On October 12 2012 08:57 VisceraEyes wrote: Master-BATER more like. Amirite guys? Eh? + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://humorcastle.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Edward-Norton-Closing-Laptop.gif) | ||
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VE being insane is no longer possible. Only other possibility sanity wise is bastard. Which is just random, but that is pretty harsh. Kush's flip was hidden or he was framed. 100% Unless hes just lieing. | ||
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Oh shit. Scum believed BC claim of lucky citizen and targetted him again possible? | ||
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On October 12 2012 20:30 risk.nuke wrote: Mementoss, why on earth did you watch z-bozon? Because he was talking the most at night. If VE was scum, scum probably woulda targetted Zboson. By his recent interactions and effort it made me think he is town. More than anyone else at least. Like honestly I don't know who scum would have targetting other than myself VE or Zboson. No KP went through anyways so I don't know what kind of information I woulda got anyways. I expected to be dead and VE to claim roleblock. I don't know why scum didn't use there roleblock last night? If they did someone claim it. Maybe its a 2 time ability? | ||
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On October 12 2012 20:36 risk.nuke wrote: Why didn't you watch VE so if they had roleblocked him you had caught him. That woulda been a good idea too. I was just watching for the night kill to be honest. But they didn't role block VE apparently. So it wouldn't have made a difference anyways. | ||
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On October 12 2012 20:50 risk.nuke wrote: First you need to ask yourself - What does Vicera gain by doing this as scum? What has he gained by doing this as scum? So far the answer is: In the scenario that Vicera is scum so far they've gained nothing, which is why I'm not worried about it at the moment. @Menentoss. Luck doesn't excuse stupidity. Even if you disregard how awefull your nk guesses were. Who would you have expected for the night kill? some random lurker o_0 | ||
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