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On October 09 2012 23:38 kushm4sta wrote:
Something that bugs me about RB and my suspicions of VE:
It's risky to lie about a roleblock.
We have had 2 rb claims this game, VE and momentoss.
The lack of RB claims makes it seem like there is only 1 RB.
The fact that momentoss was RB means that there is a scum RB.
If there is only 1 RB and it is scum, a scum VE getting roleblocked is impossible.
So either:
1he lied about getting rb (the real scum rb died that night)
2he's town
3there is also a town rb and people just aren't claiming
Disregarding his play, 2 seems the most likely.
The way kush is able to think logically about his top scum read and retract it makes me think kush is town. I do not like his lynch any more.
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dose n e 1 else think
ShiaoPi?
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On October 10 2012 05:17 Keirathi wrote:Yo, whats up with calling out ShiaoPi, then ninja voting slOosh without even mentioning it here??
there is most likely more than one mafia left
and no one else had anything to say about shiaopi
when i get more time I will dig filters
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On October 10 2012 06:18 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 06:13 Mementoss wrote:On October 10 2012 05:17 Keirathi wrote:On October 10 2012 04:20 Mementoss wrote:
dose n e 1 else think
ShiaoPi? On October 10 2012 05:00 Mementoss wrote:
##Vote: Sloosh Yo, whats up with calling out ShiaoPi, then ninja voting slOosh without even mentioning it here?? there is most likely more than one mafia left and no one else had anything to say about shiaopi when i get more time I will dig filters So you're just blatantly sheeping for no goddamn reason the person you've been calling out as third party all day? Holy crap am I the only person that sees how weird that vote was?
It is pretty weird
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I'm not trying to act scummy I just have no idea who is mafia honestly. The last time sloosh was alive this long he was assassian. But I guess he hasn't really done much this game either.
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EBWOP: So maaybe mafia don't see him as a threat.
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@Keirathi, who do you think is mafia other than Sloosh?
Lets name 2 people w/ some explanation.
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why wouldn't you claim that to start the day lol
##Vote: kushm4sta
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VE Why did you bother asking this if you "knew" kush was scum
On October 10 2012 00:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
Also, Mementoss commented on your "retraction" of scum read on me kush - was that all bullshit or did you really have a change of heart? He has a town-read on you because of it, so think carefully about how you answer.
This post makes me think that VE is not lieing:
On October 10 2012 00:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm hovering somewhere between 95 and 98% with you Kush. If you flip town I'll shit my pants. Literally. And post pictures.
I don't think he would offer to post pictures of his shitty pants if he wasn't very sure.
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On October 10 2012 06:18 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 06:13 Mementoss wrote:On October 10 2012 05:17 Keirathi wrote:On October 10 2012 04:20 Mementoss wrote:
dose n e 1 else think
ShiaoPi? On October 10 2012 05:00 Mementoss wrote:
##Vote: Sloosh Yo, whats up with calling out ShiaoPi, then ninja voting slOosh without even mentioning it here?? there is most likely more than one mafia left and no one else had anything to say about shiaopi when i get more time I will dig filters So you're just blatantly sheeping for no goddamn reason the person you've been calling out as third party all day? Holy crap am I the only person that sees how weird that vote was?
So by this logic with you voting Sloosh your saying you believe my claim, but still think BC is not 3rd party?
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I had a dream that kush flipped orange.
Then I realized I was dreaming.
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Also screw u VE I had gotten myself town read on kush before you "claimed"
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Z-boson is funny
BC is SK
Mementoss's claim confirmed what actually happened. But he is a liar.
You can't think both dude.
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I think Zboson is town btw. Even though he is wrong he is putting in a lot of effort to analyse the situation, and get some discussion going before teh kush lynch instead of everyone ebing like lol vote.
VE has 3 options:
1) He fakeclaimed and is scum. Why would he do that for a 1 for 1 with kush, a player who has 100% chance of getting mislynched every game he plays in? But VE has done crazier shit. VE's claim timing was very weird as well, you think he woulda tried to get kush lynched all day before pulling out the claim or done it right before teh night was over.Instead it was a half ass push against kush then he claimed.
This question puts me off:
On October 10 2012 00:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
Also, Mementoss commented on your "retraction" of scum read on me kush - was that all bullshit or did you really have a change of heart? He has a town-read on you because of it, so think carefully about how you answer.
since VE has a red check at this point
2) VE is fucking insane.
3) kush was framed. Likely as if there was a DT he would probably check him.
4) VE wanted to show everyone pictures of his poopy pants
4 is the most likely, but has nothing to do with alignment. I'm leaning on 1 now, but not sure. Kush was going against VE pretty hard, but backed off.
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Night actions will have a lot of tell to them tonight
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On October 11 2012 21:04 Z-BosoN wrote:
See, if BC is sk and he's correct about the watcher role, then you should have seen him leave. Also, that wasn't my only point neways -.-
Let us see what the night has to offer. I strongly, strongly think either yours or VEs claim is null. Once I have more time Ill go through his filter.
Your right that my meta doesn't match my town meta, it doesn't match my scum meta either, it matches my "oh shit im in 2 games at once, and this one has had decided lynches 3 days in a row (zzzzzz)" meta.
Well if you wanna think about it claim vs claim here are the facts:
VE:
Claims role block isnt counter claimed
Weird claim timing
Checks red is proven wrong
Mementoss:
Claims role block isnt counter claimed
weird claim timing
Situation explained, verified to be correct, proved BC lieing, BC admitted to lieing
Re-Read my exchange with BC after he claims to be shot and medic'd (the moment I found out he lied) and see if you still think my claim is invalid
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On October 11 2012 21:25 Kreb wrote:
Theres strange things going on with these claims. There a seemingly massive amount of Blues in the game (does mafia have something else to balance the possible town advantage of plenty of blues then? if so, what?) while still being 4 unclaimed roles (hitman, coroner, detective, arsonist). Thats one 3rd party, but could be another blue among the rest.
Cant really put my finger on what it could be though. All claims seem somewhat valid, but that doesnt feel right either.
are you implying that you think every role on the role list is in this game?
I had no idea what a coroner was then i looked this up: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Coroner
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On October 11 2012 21:33 Kreb wrote:
The other thing I dont like about the claims is the almost complete lack of breadcrumbs. MMToss at least mentions it, the other two does not. Im not experienced enough to know how common they are, but shouldnt Blues try to breadcrumbs a lot more than this? We have little giving further strength to MMToss, BC or VE in terms of crumbs.
sorry if this had been mentioned but does anyone know how KJ died night 1? Was it a claimed shot or mafia shot.
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Trying to figure out the night kills:
Night 1:
Risen killed himself
Anull killed by town vig
KJ killed by ????
BC targetted by mafia KP
Austin shot by ????
Mafia KP min 1 max 3
Night 2:
Mkfuba killed himself
Austin killed by mafia KP (assumption because he was a claimed save by medic -> confirmed townie status)
ToutestChaos killed by ????
Mafia KP min 1 max 2
Night 3:
Prometheax killed by mafia KP (assumed because confirmed town vig)
Broodkingexe killed by ????
mafia kp min 1 max 2
My theory is that mafia KP is fixed at 2, and there was a hitman (mafia vig) on night 1. Or mafia KP was cut due to 2 lynches, and the extra KP is from SK. But that seems unlikely due to low amount of KP, 1 KP for mafia by night 2, would be very unlikely. Unless SK stopped shooting, or shots stacked. (SK -> 3rd party)
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On October 11 2012 21:41 Kreb wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2012 21:38 Mementoss wrote:On October 11 2012 21:33 Kreb wrote:
The other thing I dont like about the claims is the almost complete lack of breadcrumbs. MMToss at least mentions it, the other two does not. Im not experienced enough to know how common they are, but shouldnt Blues try to breadcrumbs a lot more than this? We have little giving further strength to MMToss, BC or VE in terms of crumbs. sorry if this had been mentioned but does anyone know how KJ died night 1? Was it a claimed shot or mafia shot. While there of course are other possibilities, seems almost 100% chance it was a mafia shot.
why would mafia shoot him, he was a lynch candidate day 1 was he not? it seems like an awkward shot to me
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