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Thanks for playing. I realized that you were town too late, when it was staring me in the face the whole time. Hope to play with you again soon! @Z-Bo The problem with just attacking omni with the town read is a problem. Djo and others have done the same (I know djo has stuck up for other newbies, citing them as newbie town). They are having a problem of reading too much into each other's noobieness. Imo, it's one of the worst things you can do as noobieness. Also, Djo has used his noobieness as an excuse multiple times. After I check your meta and ur filter z-bo I'll work on everyone else. Gotta make sure the last of the contributors are what I think they are  @Shady Can you post some more please, scumhunting-wise? You must realize the person you took over for was fairly scummy himself and we need to get some actual reads on you. | ||
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after looking at your meta, and combining it with the posting from this game, I'm having a town read on you atm (I took a long hard look lol....wait til post game where you see my notes) I will examine the remaining four now | ||
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@sonic yeah | ||
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1) Omni 2) Shady 3) Djo 4)Remedy | ||
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shady at 2 is explained by corrosion's post and shady's lurking. Djo has seemed to care about the game and the town's decision (at least in respect to lynching me) | ||
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1) He doesn't seem to care too much who the town lynchs 2) His post quality is low, often concentrated on the town read of another or insignificant matters (such as nk analysis, who's available for posting in his time zone) 3) His statement that long posts are bad One thought though He has completely vanished. He is most likely at threat of a modkill. If he comes back at last second before lynch and casts a vote, I say lynch him. If not, we might as well let the mods deal with him. If he doesn't post of vote before deadline, I feel like shady would be more justified. Or me lol | ||
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On Djo 1) Eager to ask for town credit for asking kush a question 2) Playing the newbie card 3) His statement early game about confident that we would mislynch day 1, then being so confident in kush being scum later, although he agreed with kush early and then later switched to kush after all the votes were piled on. -in this case, the last mafia would not want to bus kush with lesrah being totally afk. Would make sense that mafia would wait to vote kush 4) Eagerness to jump on kush's WIFOM statments on me (I find that mafia would be most likely to use the advantage that kush gave him) 5) Never really addressing the Alsn case (he did after the lynch but odd that he didn't do it during the lynch). All he said was that he was ok with lynching Alsn----shows signs of not caring that much 6) Stated that he wanted to drop discussion of me today yet continues to bring me up 7) Him bringing up lesrah multiple times. Seemed to worried about how lesrah would be handled 8) Him FOS corrosion day two, then in one post unFOSing corrosion, giving a town read on corrosion, then accusing me of trying to mislynch corrosion 9) Asking for a vig to nk me when I could be easily lynched today. Would be a wasted bullet 10) Trying to start the newbie town read on the other noobies so that he fits in with them. For someone so active he seems quite determined to mark himself as a newbie 11) This quote On October 02 2012 19:22 Djodref wrote: EBWOP: I'm not going to be here for the lynch deadline so I'm not going to be able to check if I can safely stay on debears or not Notice the wording. Townies don't care about looking "safe" with their votes. The care about lynching their biggest scumread. That's pretty much it. All of them (if not most) can be considered newbie town mistakes. I left out some of the speculation stuff. It shouldn't play a role against him. | ||
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I thought I was his top scumread??????? | ||
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nvm....i thought lynch was today....that confused me so much. | ||
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I'm going to point out some main posts that I don't feel have been addressed. + Show Spoiler + On October 02 2012 08:01 Omniscient4983 wrote: Show nested quote + 4) Be decisive. The thread doesn't need to know every thought you have. You're talking about this person, then that person, then that guy over there. It's not that these cases aren't truthful/don't hold merit. I just find all of it to be a bit excessive. I apologize if it's inherently wrong to view it in such a manner. On September 29 2012 00:46 Omniscient4983 wrote: Sorry for making my introduction then disappearing. The game began late at night, and I had to sleep + attend university this morning. I'm reading up on all of this and will make my conclusions shortly. In these two posts, notice the defensive, apologetic feel to them. He accuses me and then says "I apologize if my views are wrong" (not confident, a pretty neutral, laid back accusation). In the second, he refers to the one liner that DP posted about people leaving after intro posts. Here's darth's post On September 28 2012 10:36 DarthPunk wrote: So is everyone just going to drop their welcome posts and then afk? Notice the time stamp. He brought that up over 12 hours before Omni made that post. It was a statement that DP, nor anyone else pursued. Yet, Omni went out of the way, at a time when kush was being grilled, to apologize. and finally On October 02 2012 05:10 Omniscient4983 wrote: Show nested quote + I'm not jumping the wagon--I've always thought Debears would be a candidate for lynch. There are many points against him, including the association / defense of Kush, townie reference, meta-based arguments, etc... the only thing as of late that erks me is all the different cases. It seems as if he's diverting attention / spreading chaos to make the case against him seem insignificant as compared to those of others. Z-BosoN made an extensive case against him--reference it if you'd like. The long cases don't so much confirm the suspicion as they do add to it. He uses Z-Bo's extensive case against me and my use of extensive cases against me (contradiction yes?). He claims I was spreading chaos, although he found the content of the posts acceptable. It seems he didn't like that someone might snoop up his alley. He never even addressed my case on him. He just said that extensive cases are bad.... He brought up a big post on DP that was a summary of Kush's and DP's argument timeline. He gave a close to neutral read (he said "slightly suspicious" on kush) He brought up the n1 nk WIFOM (Z-Bo I recall that you did this when you were scum in an earlier game. I think you'll agree that this is something scum can do to look like contributing). He has been more concerned with giving lurkers newbie town reads. He hasn't pushed a case. He just votes and scoots. He says that other's arguments are good but he doesn't explain why he thinks so. I would quote more but his filter is small. So, when I go down to basic thinking, I am looking at a few questions. Is he scumhunting? No. (pointing out 1 supposed scumslip, aka mine, does not make up for the rest of his posts) Is contributing anything to the main discussion points in a positive manner? No. Have his actions indicated that he is trying to actively help the town? No. Looking at his filter, I don't see much, if any, townie motivation for his posts. | ||
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That feels like too many assumptions. It doesnt explain his filter | ||
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As town, he could simply be trying to push harder on the three he think are scum. As i said, the mafia motivation is what i see is more likely due to his filter | ||
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