Rockband Mini Mafia

On September 18 2012 08:26 Blazinghand wrote:


Yes, you have successfully posted a link to prplhz' filter in Mad Men. Would you like a cookie? A gold star? It must have been a lot of effort for you, and you really made yourself clear.

You're fearless, and aren't afraid to vote first (link) and ratchet up the pressure afterwards (link) which may not be the best strat, but is definitely townie. You are bullheaded with your reads and aggressive. You don't prod first then vote, you vote then prod. All this in a game in which admittedly there are people you don't know at all. It's what a townie would do.

On September 18 2012 08:54 Blazinghand wrote:
...what? prplhz made his vote on glasse when glasse's filter has 5 posts. He did it based on the posts I have quoted there. How the hell is that an "opportunity" when the stuff that's happened so far this game isn't an opportunity? Please explain your reasoning, because somehow it eludes me. I suspect we are thinking on different levels.

On September 18 2012 08:55 Hapahauli wrote:
Looks like we're on the same page about BH's case Hiro. Thoughts on mmtoss?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369250&currentpage=5#91
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369250&currentpage=5#97

In fact, I'd expect scum to be the people most willing to be jumping on BH's case without so much as a thought. Namely austinmcc and mementoss

On September 18 2012 09:14 goodkarma wrote:
And prplhz has recently made a post that shows he is actually interested in scumhunting. It doesn't mean he's town, but given the case against him was largely based on meta, and his recent behavior (at least in my opinion) has been pro-town, I don't feel he's a good lynch candidate right now. This is why I give people a chance to discuss their viewpoints early, as otherwise I'd be vote swapping like a ridiculous amount through the first day and I don't feel this really helps at all.

On September 19 2012 01:04 Ange777 wrote:


Because? Can't you give a reason when you are suddenly stating town or scum reads?

In fact, I'd expect scum to be the people most willing to be jumping on BH's case without so much as a thought. Namely austinmcc and mementoss

Why are you making excuses for voting too early (point 2 + 3)? Cool, you're voting early, no one is suspicious of you for it... and then you make pro-active excuses for it.

On September 19 2012 01:45 Hapahauli wrote:
Have an hour between classes to catch up on the last few pages. Will post as I catch up, but first the recent page of events:

@ HiroPro:


Apologies if I ignored you before - I got caught up in Zeph's case most of last night and didn't think about much else.

But you do bring up a good point on that mementoss post (in regards to him defending himself), and I'll concede that as a contradiction. I'll withdraw my vote on MMtoss for now.

Also Hiro, I'm also eager to hear what you think about marv's case + vote on you.

##Unvote

On September 19 2012 02:25 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Marv

Regarding this:


Why do you find Hiro's point compelling if you think he's mafia? You had your vote firmly on him at this point, and I don't understand why you'd be all of a sudden so willing to listen to, what appears to me as a weak observation about Palmar?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember you being fairly critical of the town in DN Mini mafia for wanting to lynch Palmar D1.

On September 19 2012 01:37 HiroPro wrote:
perfection, I'd like to hear what you think about my point on hapahauli.

Let's not get carried away on the marv thing yet (@ prplhz). I'm generally very hesitant when lynching vets unless there's a really good case against them. I still need some answers, namely...

On September 18 2012 07:04 Hapahauli wrote:
... or it's not obvious at all, and it's a typical bad D1 case making insane meta connections with barely any samplesize?

If you're pressuring him or whatever, cool, but the case is in no way "damning" or "TOO obvious." In fact, I'd expect scum to be the people most willing to be jumping on BH's case without so much as a thought. Namely austinmcc and mementoss

On September 18 2012 08:27 Hapahauli wrote:
##Unvote

@ Austinmcc - Well posted and thanks for explaining your rationale. Enough for me to take the vote off for now.

@ mmtoss -


Point 1) is fine alone. It's the rest of your post that starts spiraling. Why are you making excuses for voting too early (point 2 + 3)? Cool, you're voting early, no one is suspicious of you for it... and then you make pro-active excuses for it. Point 4 is a red flag for me in that you are soft-pushing suspicion on him. For reference:



Dayyyyum son.

##Vote mementoss

Then we have bluelightz, who is very aware of his lack of contributions but isn't doing more. He had a huge post on mementoss similar to his playstyle, but he hasn't done much since.

On September 19 2012 17:54 Blazinghand wrote:

HiroPro you've been about as useful as a trapdoor on a lifeboat. Your filter, short as it is, includes literally no thoughts on Marv and your thoughts on prplhz are minimal and constrained to incoherent questions and statements about my case on him. The closest you get to making a read on him is this post which is about as crappy as the rest of your filter. I demand you take stances on both of these players, provide reads (rather than just asking inane questions) and reasons for the reads before the flip happens. Anything less than that is hurting town.

On September 19 2012 06:54 prplhz wrote:
I have some small reservations with the marvellosity lynch that I can tell you about later but for now he's my top candidate.

On May 01 2012 08:06 prplhz wrote:
I'm feeling like it was a really bad thing that we didn't just have Palmogisfield pick out 6-7 townies and then everybody else should go majority. Imagine if we did this and every townie complied, imagine that. Pretty good. People are all "but there's going to be someone who doesn't do it and then the world will implode and we will instantly lose to scum because of a lot of doomsayery i'm going make up on the spot" and I have no idea where they're coming from.

I'd volunteer to go to the majority 'cause I feel useless anyway. I'm probably going to flip coins until day[9] 'cause you can't have reads before then anyway.

On May 01 2012 05:13 prplhz wrote:
If there's no plan then it's probably going to be 2-4 scum in the majority. If there is a vigilante of sort or other similar role then we can use that to kill of bad guys in the minority.

Since it looks like people don't like round A plans then how about round B plans? I think it was Meapak_Ziphh who said "X votes X+1" and then the minority votes for the townier people. Bad thing is that we don't get majority to vote on anything so no information, and if we just flip coins for round A then people never get to put their money where their mouth is. I'm still for the Palmogisfield-plan (wazzup) where those three just decide whatever and put 6-7 townies in the minority. If we're dissatisfied with their picks then we can just replace some of them tomorrow. Just because we ditched the claim idea doesn't mean we have to ditch everything that any of those said.

On May 30 2012 22:31 prplhz wrote:
Okay I'm convinced by Radfield. Either we get investigative roles we can trust, or we get roles from vigilante/medic/child pool which is pretty sweet. Both child and vigilante can easily confirm themselves and a medic save would extend the game by a full day.

Anyway, I'm voting for role blocker. I was a little worried about role blocker interfering with power roles but the chance of even hitting power roles isn't that big and we shouldn't rely on them too much anyway.

On September 19 2012 06:54 prplhz wrote:
The thing that pushed me over the edge with marvellosity was what I mentioned here (and you'll notice that this was before Palmar commented on it). I don't think that town marvellosity would find HiroPro's argument convincing at all. This befuddled me a bit because I'm a slow thinker and admittedly, seeing that a towny looking Palmar saw the same thing as me made me feel more strongly about it. Actually so strongly about it that I voted marvellosity.

On June 22 2012 22:53 marvellosity wrote:
That's because my scumplay is so fucking awesome no-one ever suspects me, and so I have very few tells to differentiate my play (as far as I'm aware!).

I agree it wasn't ideal and if I had my time again I'd just answer the question the first time.

Also don't blame me for taking the focus off others. I didn't force you to make your entire post about me, you could have commented on anything else, yet you chose not to.

In fact, I'd expect scum to be the people most willing to be jumping on BH's case without so much as a thought. Namely austinmcc and mementoss

Why are you making excuses for voting too early (point 2 + 3)? Cool, you're voting early, no one is suspicious of you for it... and then you make pro-active excuses for it.

On September 19 2012 01:45 Hapahauli wrote:
Have an hour between classes to catch up on the last few pages. Will post as I catch up, but first the recent page of events:

@ HiroPro:


Apologies if I ignored you before - I got caught up in Zeph's case most of last night and didn't think about much else.

But you do bring up a good point on that mementoss post (in regards to him defending himself), and I'll concede that as a contradiction. I'll withdraw my vote on MMtoss for now.

Also Hiro, I'm also eager to hear what you think about marv's case + vote on you.

##Unvote

On September 20 2012 03:30 austinmcc wrote:

I can see where you're getting this, but you should take another look at Bureaucracy. I called out Sandroba because I thought he was actually scum, yes. But I explained that one reason I was pushing it so hard is that I wanted to survive for a while and had seen that newish guy + paranoid case = survive. As long as you don't come off scummy and you generally tank your cred, scum has no reason to kill you and you live for a bit (See: my experience in LV and my explanation for my Bureaucracy conduct). I wanted more days to check more messages that game with my role, so it made sense to play that way. After that, I'm pretty sure I slipped back again and didn't do too much.

I DO think my conduct this game looks scummier than that play. I don't have a townie reason for it. But look at the timing on my return post and the mementoss post. I'm not only looking up mementoss because I'm getting crap for being away. I was actually off looking at things right after returning, and that was already in the works. Reading through some filters wasn't a response to pressure there. It's a way of trying to contribute beyond just saying "Here's some stuff I think about what's already happened that others have probably said."

On September 19 2012 22:41 austinmcc wrote:
I have been absent. I am getting this vote into thread because the deadline is coming. I like it better than the other options that MIGHT be legitimate at this point, which seem to be ... just marv?

##Vote: prplhz


I think I'd much rather lynch bluelightz, unless there's been any action on that front, but I don't believe that's going to happen.

On September 20 2012 04:09 austinmcc wrote:

Gave you some differences between bureaucracy and here. Gave you the reason that I played like I did in bureaucracy.

As to your questions about the prplhz/bluelightz question, is there ANY actual good explanation? I don't think there is. You can vote me because of that post, but you shouldn't be voting me based on my responses. That post sucked ass. It's not the sort of thing you can shine up and make pretty with an explanation. It's nitpicky, but ... there's seriously no good explanation there, so there's no non-trashy response.

On September 21 2012 02:00 Hapahauli wrote:


This is what his case on prplzh reads like to me.

On September 21 2012 08:49 austinmcc wrote:

5 minutes to deadline - nice claims
3 minutes to deadline - "are you confirming mason?"

That's it. She seems to disbelieve the claims, but then asks "are you confirming mason?" However, she doesn't care about the answer. 3 minutes after deadline she's just waiting for flip.

It really reminds me of something I semi-caught from Mattchew in Can't Believe. He asked for reads on marv, 2 people gave townreads on marv, then Mattchew votes marv. It made it look like he was just asking the question, but didn't care about responses.

Ange asks if prplhz is confirming the mason claim, but doesn't do anything after. Doesn't push him hard for an answer. Doesn't even say if she believes the claim or not, which a lot of people were doing. She just throws that question out there 3 minutes before deadline, and is back 3 minutes after deadline to say "Where's the flip?"

I don't feel that her silence after that question is townie. She should at least be concerned about the answer if she's going to ask. But she doesn't seem to have been concerned, and she didn't say anything about whether or not she believed the mason claim, found them town/scum, etc.

On September 21 2012 10:22 Mementoss wrote:
Marv also pointed this out and anges second explanation is just as logically flawed as the first.






Only scum would say this. Solely Trying to incriminate iamprefection with the question, when the answer was fucking obvious to anyone and everyone. The conflicting claims when one of them was obviously fake. And it wasn't a ninja vote since there is no voting thread and it was in plain sight.



Ange saying there is no town motivation for iamperfections play is just ridiculous and its actually the opposite. Ange is trying to incriminate him and put together a case against someone she doesn't find dangerous. Someone that won't come back and call her out. Someone that won't attempt to call her on her shit.

Town motivation for switching votes, you thought the claim was fake and ridiculous so you changed your vote to who you thought was scum. Any reasonable town in the thread WOULD make this switch.

Scum motivation for making this switch? There is none, why would scum want to last minute switch onto a townie? Why would scum want to out themselves by doing this? He could have easily pretended not to be in the thread.

My cases don't target people that are easy targets. Take prplhz for example, he did call me scummy. And I have not made a case on mkfuba. I had simply announced that I would re-read his filter. I started to question Palmar. I don't think that you would call him an easy target would you?

On September 22 2012 08:37 Ange777 wrote:


What?

Hiro's playing more carefully than his town meta

On September 23 2012 05:20 Hapahauli wrote:
Don't forget, Ange wasn't accurate until D3/D4 in her newbie games. Again, I find the logic odd, but I can see it coming from town.

But seriously, look at Hiro's D2 play. There's nothing there.

Marv wrote: hiro scum, unless ve flips scum

On September 24 2012 07:49 iamperfection wrote:





These were the posts that hiro made in reference to bluelightz. I would characterize them as him defending him or giving a null read. Don't really know what that means but he does defend him.

Although it does give a platform for bluelightz to do whatever he wants.

On September 24 2012 08:10 iamperfection wrote:

when you come back give a detailed read on me zeph ange and blue please.

On September 24 2012 08:13 iamperfection wrote:

ya your not helping.

On September 24 2012 08:22 marvellosity wrote:
If there is a Serial Killer, I find it rather unlikely it's Mementoss.

I have strong feelings about who it would be if it does exist, which I'll tell town at the end of the next night.

Scum is a catch-all term for any member of an informed minority, such as Serial Killers and Mafia goons. During a day phase, everybody is seemingly trying to locate and eliminate these roles.

On September 19 2012 04:25 marvellosity wrote:


that's not a question, that's a stupid statement

care to tell me how troll Palmar who made one post in Death Note is the same as retard Palmer in Rock Band who comes into the thread pointing fingers in an unsubstantiated fashion?

Still, I think Palmar might just be awful this game.

prplhz jumping on my vote, however, is scummy as shit.

On February 25 2012 04:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
My case on you BH is based almost solely on meta and I've said this. You're clearly not looking for scum, you're just hopping on bandwagons started by veterans because in your experience those are the bandwagons that end up being successful. It's transparant as hell and it's why I want you to hang.

But as a side-note, your posts ARE useless, but because I don't find that indicative of alignment, merely of skill, I've left that out.

On September 19 2012 22:39 marvellosity wrote:
Alright, I'm not sure how to construct this post, but here are my thoughts on some stuff in the game:

Firstly, in response to Mementoss re: what I said about Hiro (probably gonna duplicate this as my post goes on, but meh):



This is what I thought about it:

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Leading on from this, I'm a little suspicious of Hapahauli. Partly because I know what he's capable of when I saw him dominate town as scum in one of his newbie games. There are two reasons:

Firstly, how he questioned me on listening to Hiro. I'm well aware that a lot of you disagreed with me finding Hiro's point on Palmar interesting, but I don't understand the thought train of not listening to a player just because you're voting for them, especially on Day 1.





It can be scummy in a certain context? What does that even mean? We only have one context here, and it's a Day 1 read for not contributing starting to contribute something I hadn't thought of. Don't know what context he was thinking of, or what answer he was possibly expecting from me.

Secondly, and with greater weight, were the contradictions on Mementoss + voting that Hiro pointed out. It's a disconnect in thinking about an issue that is often explained by the fact that scum have to manufacture opinions, and therefore they don't match up. The fact he backed down from it doesn't change the fact he made it in the first place. In Movie Mafia Day 2 (hi prplhz) Snarfs plunked his vote on me (QQ, a theme) with a contradiction of dismissing my town motivation as WIFOM, and using WIFOM to give the scum motivation. I called him scum for it, and he backed down from it (because how can you maintain a contradictory position?) but he was scum nevertheless.

There's not enough else in Hapa's filter to warrant me voting him or anything. A lot of what he's done seems constructive, so I'm not willing to go after him, but I'm uneasy.

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mkfuba: Someone else I'm kinda suspicious of but I don't want to vote today. Mementoss, I know you think we're buddying, but agreeing on a potential read is just that we agree on a potential read.

The reason I'm suspicious of fuba is that he was absent for such a long time at the beginning of the day, so I was expecting to come back with something big and impressive in the evening, and he did not.

Ameliorating these concerns slightly is that mkfuba is holy-shit wishy washy at the best of times. Seriously, go read any of his games, he's a known wishywashy meister. So this isn't really a tell either way for me. I need more information and posting from fuba to get a proper read on him.

From what I know of him, he struggles to write posts as both alignments, but especially as scum finds it hard to find stuff to write about. So that's what I will be looking out for as the game goes on (presuming I survive this lynch :D)

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HiroPro: Suspicious of him too. If his contributions on Palmar/Hapa weren't things I'd even considered myself, I'd probably want to lynch him right now. Whether people agree with it or not, I found his point on Palmar pretty good, especially as Palmar at the time came in swinging with scum/town reads with practically no explanation. The fact that he picked up on Hapa's contradiction also shows an attentiveness to the thread and analysis that indicates townie. The problem at the moment is that he has not subsequently taken a firm stance on anyone or anything beyond these observations. Leaning kinda scummy.

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Zephirdd: I know he attracted a vote or two today, but I don't wanna lynch him. I thought his Hapa case was bad, and the fact he backed down from it even weaker. But his posts since then have had a collaboratory feel that I haven't felt from Zephirdd since we were town in NMM2 together. So leaning town.

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austin: yeah, I think I most of all want to lynch austin. Some of it's gonna be a rehash, but it's important for the whole thing. The reason people jumped on austin in the first place:



Pretty much generally agreed that this was scummy, so won't delve too much. Where shit starts to diverge is on the response, which people read as townie. There's important time issues to look at. BlazingHand first pushes him to elaborate on it, and we get this as a response:



Pudding blabla not satisfactory at all. His 'townie' explanation that follows only comes after me, Hapa, and BH apply further considerable pressure.



It's not a bad explanation as it goes, and I can see why people viewed it as townie. But the fact is that it only came after his previous, poor explanation. In other words, he had to give a good explanation because he knew a large part of town was hounding him for it. In this context, I believe it loses some of its 'townieness'. I bold the final line as well for a reason. Obvious was the wrong word choice, eh? Look at how austin usually posts - longwinded, carefully thought out. Yet in this instance he'd thrown out his 'obvious' and 'too damning'. It looks like austin is justifying his scummy words after the fact.

austin has a few posts subsequently, but they are all focused on his own defence rather than any other scumhunting. Why is he so worried about how others view his defence? Why is he only talking about his own defence rather than being proactive elsewhere? Because he's worried that he needs to appear as town.

After these posts, austin has been markedly absent from any of the considerable goings-on in this thread. We don't have an opinion on anyone or anything, except his own defence. His play is marked by being worried by how he appears, rather than finding scum.

##Vote: austinmcc

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The only other candidate I'm interested in is prplhz. Ange makes some very good points, especially the two I pointed out a little earlier:



Unless these are answered satisfactorily, I am open to a prplhz lynch too.

On February 22 2012 18:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
VisceraEyes Lynch List of Storm's End
BloodyC0bbler - My complaints echo the complaints of players such as DocH and Syllogism...he's had plenty of opportunity to come look for scum - he hasn't. He placed a vote on redFF without saying whether he thought he was scum or not. I was less than satisfied with his responses to my posts, and I've been unimpressed with his effort so far in the game. I voted for this guy in L, and while I was herpin and a derpin, he was finding scum and establishing his innocence.

wherebugsgo - WBG has similarly not been interested in finding scum. He called chaoser scum lightly at the beginning of the day, but it looked more like an excuse to get into a conversation with him than anything. This is directly after he just got done buddying him in his introduction post. Followed up with calling redFF bad ad nauseum. Very clear to not say scum - only very bad. Suddenly this all changes after red sheeps after Jackal? Sheeping is something scum and town do in equal parts - verily, many a veteran townies count on a few sheep to push their agendas. Claims that most of what red has done can be explained 'with scum motivations'. Fails to elaborate or support this idea. Just throws it out there.

RebirthOfLegenD - my weakest read - I'm really only interested in showing RoL rope if he doesn't start looking for scum. This redFF wagon essentially pushed itself, and he's making it his MISSION to make it happen. I don't even know if RoL thinks red is scum or not. But it's pretty clear that he wants red to die. TODAY.

I can support a lynch of any of these three players, my preference is WBG, followed by BC, with RoL being my least favorite choice.

On September 20 2012 05:38 marvellosity wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote prplhz

best get talking, prplhz.

On February 23 2012 03:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay guys, I'm switching to BH. I think he's scum too, and I can at least admit that we're losing less (no offense) being mistaken and lynching BH than we are being mistaken and lynching BC.

On September 19 2012 21:03 marvellosity wrote:
Palmar's entire shitty case is this:

"marv is better than this, therefore he is scum".

I have the case open in a separate tab to see if I need to respond to specific points, but I can find very little worth responding to.

Yes, my tone changed, I got a bit heated. What of it? If you want to go down that road, it's something I'm far more likely to do as town. WIFOMy? Sure, but Palmar's entire case is WIFOMy. Anyone go find me a single example of me 'losing the plot' as scum - you won't be able to find an instance, I wager. Or NMM3 where I was actually scum and Palmar called me out and I just flat out ignored him.

On the other hand, as town I have been known to self-vote (Movie Mafia) or go into a 24-48 hour funk (Bureaucracy, when Foolish called me scum for no reason, and it knocked me sideways until I recovered and realised Foolish was scum).

"Did you think I wouldn't tell people what I thought about other people in the game? Should I just not call out my reads because they "mess with an already divided town"?"

Yeah except you gave very little reasoning for anything. You said austin is scum and provided one quote going "lol here's evidence" with no explanation of why the quote made him scum. You called Hiro scum with no reasoning, and ditto you laid a vote on me later with a one sentence explanation. That's pisspoor play, Palmar.

I will be filtering this afternoon to see who I particularly want to lynch. I don't care if you/people thought I was weird for liking Hiro's Palmar point; to me it was a perspective that I hadn't thought of at all and so it was interesting. Additionally Hiro's points on Hapa's contradictions were strong. Listening to contributions from a day 1 scumread who was mainly a scumread for not contributing is not scummy behaviour. I'm not sure if it's enough from austin to make me not want to lynch him, but at the moment I'm leaning towards austin. He's been very absent through critical discussions when I know he could have been active, and that's scummy play.

On February 23 2012 05:54 VisceraEyes wrote:


I'm not scum bro, you're completely mistaken. But you know, feel free to keep not making any sense. You don't even have a case against me, you quoted a bunch of my posts and said "timing is a bitch" which doesn't mean anything without context.

Now shut up, vote BC or you die overnight. I'm 100% serious here.

On September 24 2012 12:08 marvellosity wrote:
10/10 would read again

On September 24 2012 20:30 Mementoss wrote:
I think HiroPro is town or at least not scummy enough to warrant a vote. Details to come later.

On September 25 2012 00:31 Ange777 wrote:


Ok, while I don't believe marv to be the serial killer, the logic seems sound. Am I missing something why we should kill scum first before serial killer if we were equally sure/suspicious of them?

On September 25 2012 00:32 Zephirdd wrote:


you still didn't explain the magical roleblock on hapahauli and lack of jailkeeper counterclaim

On September 17 2012 21:03 marvellosity wrote:
I figure SK, but whatevs

edit: also Mementoss, you're well aware that for me, "posting less" is still "posting considerably more than most other people"

On September 18 2012 06:46 marvellosity wrote:
yesssss, I get to live because of WIFOM!

hi all <3

On September 18 2012 20:54 marvellosity wrote:


Yes, he made the worst case in the universe on me last game.

On September 24 2012 11:59 HiroPro wrote:

An Extensive Look at the Serial Killer

Facts:

1. Marv was coached by VE.
2. VE was Serial Killer in Storm Mafia


Playstyle:

VE correctly identified someone as scum day 1!!!! Guess what Marv has done this game? That's right he identified Palmar as scum Day 1!!!

VE was roleblocked night 1. Sorry if I'm being repetitive guys but honestly there are so many similarities and it's so obvious I don't get how you guys don't see it. MARV SAID HE WAS RBed night 1!!!!

Post by Post Analysis:





Look at these two posts. Notice the similarities. They use meta primarily to discredit the people that they think they are scum. For their ingame play, they are content to say that their targets are bad and useless. They don't call them out right scum (because they're scared of mafia shooting them).





Meaningless lists are a great way to seem as if you're contributing when you're really not. Both of these serial killers talk about a lot of people and say a lot of stuff but they don't actually bring up anything new or useful. It's just rehashed garbage to make themselves look good while at the same time not looking like a threat to mafia.






Then, notice the quick changes these serial killers have. They're not too concerned about who really is mafia and who isn't so they'll switch to a different person just to look townie and bold.





When mafia players make cases against these serial killers, they get mad since they know that the other person is mafia but they don't want to call them out on it as it would make them a kill target. But at the same time they need to defend themselves since otherwise the townies will lynch them.

On September 27 2012 06:48 Zephirdd wrote:
marv = MVP

my intention was to play townie like(except towards day3) in order to just survive till lylo. idk why the scum team didn't shoot marv day 2 though.

http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/shvBuiPagrd
^qt where I talk to myself.

On September 27 2012 07:08 Hapahauli wrote:
Pretty crazy that all three scum were the top three lynch candidates on D2 - great D1 for town despite the fail-mason claim =/