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Hapahauli
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Hapahauli
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First of all, there's one post in Marv's filter that screams townie to me: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369250¤tpage=23#445 He's slightly suspicious of a bunch of people, and clearly put quite a bit of effort into the post. He's way too open, and I'd expect his scumplay to be a lot lazier, especially given his recent long string of scumgames. Now as for Palmar's case, here's what it hinges on: 1) Marv changed his posting style when he was called out 2) Marv is not encouraging people to read the thread objectively 3) Marv's self-aware OMGUS vote 4) Marv sheeping on some "bad logic" First off, I don't understand why 1 or 2 are scumtells. Pretty much anyone will change their posting style after being called out for it, town or scum. In addition, townies spin posts subjectively all the time - that's very common in townie D1 play. Number 3 is a null-tell to me. There's a very legitimate chance he was just in a bad mood. Number 4 can be scummy under the right conditions, but marv's posting otherwise (above) suggests that it's just him making observations rather than legitimately sheeping cases. Unless he keeps doing this later in the game (i'll probably be long dead by then, so someone better watch out for this), this is not a major tell on D1. | ||
Hapahauli
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I have some discussion of Bluelightz meta on pages 40/41, check 'em out. He has recent town games in GSL mini and Normal Mini III. His most recent scumgame was Normal Mini II I believe. Great thing is, these are all minis just like this game | ||
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On September 21 2012 04:21 mkfuba07 wrote: To make sure I understand, are you pointing out that he admits his own reasoning is sketchy, but sticks with it anyway? In his latest post, he basically stated that there was a very little chance of austinmcc flipping scum, and he mentioned that he pointed it out previously. In the post that he does however, he's much more wishy-washy on his reasoning. He admits his reasoning is bad, and uses it more as a justification to lynch marv rather than saying austin isn't scum. There's no indication in that post that he things austin is townie and/or shouldn't get lynched. | ||
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On September 21 2012 04:21 Mementoss wrote: I would disagree he seemed very unsure of his read on me in the early game this game. I agree with you partially, and I'm not suggesting that BL is 100% scum. However, there are a lot of other things in his filter that need to be looked at. Namely his "overkill' case against prplzh, as well as his complete absence of townie reads that are so common in his other town games. He hasn't been participating in discussion much at all, and his play seems remarkably clean for someone with a "crazy" town meta. Point is, I think that town really let him off the hook D1. He needs to be questioned, and he's blending in successfully. | ||
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Town: Marv (for reasons previously posted) BlazingHand (duh) Zeph (mega confirmation bais vs. me) Null-ish: Ange (:effort: making me lean town on her) mkfuba (leaning town for reasons posted in thread - too open with thought process) Mementoss (null) Hiro (nullz) austinmcc (nullzzzzz) scum: Bluelightz Palmar I'll try to work out some of those null reads before the deadline. Should have a half an hour or so before the deadline to work on things. | ||
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On September 21 2012 04:51 Mementoss wrote: Could you elaborate more why you think MKfuba is town? I think the fear he has with posting openly has clearly painted him scum. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369250¤tpage=37#736 | ||
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On September 21 2012 04:58 marvellosity wrote: Hapa, what made you nullify your read on Mementoss? Seems to have a clear conscience. Didn't really get caught up in the accusations against him and continued to scumhunt. I'd actually lean town on him tbh. | ||
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On September 21 2012 04:57 Mementoss wrote: Before he made that post on austin though he made a much weaker one, his filter generally gives me a feel of him being scared to post then deciding to post later. The post on me was a different way of wording what other people have already said. Hard to tell though. Oh haha, it's funny cause I looked at his post on you again, and he actually answered the wrong question from marv. Marv asked him for his read on austinmcc, and he provided a read on you. No idea what it means, but worth noting. I'll have to do some more thinking on mkfuba. | ||
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On September 20 2012 03:56 mkfuba07 wrote: Absolutely! I think the most convincing thing about it is the overall feeling that MMToss isn't really pressuring his scumreads. He hasn't said much about prplhz since the vote until his post about marv and I being suspicious together. I actually forgot that he even had his vote on him. Austinmcc didn't feel particularly pressured. And despite feeling like MMToss should be voting for me instead of prplhz based on his posting so far, I don't feel particularly pressured by him. He seems to be kind of passively throwing around suspicion, but keeping his vote firmly set on prplhz without any force behind it. I'm not sure if this is necessarily scummy (I know, wishy-washy), but I don't feel like it's consistent with MMToss's town play (the limited amount that I have experienced). Gotta switch classrooms... I'll take another look at austin's recent posts and comment when I'm settled in the other room. Sorry about that :< Marv asked him for his read on austinmcc. "Absolutely!" "MMtoss is playing strange..." "I'll look at austin later" Wat? | ||
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On September 21 2012 05:16 marvellosity wrote: order of things to do: read things and THEN comment, rather than comment and find out it's been said ![]() Blah blah blah yeah yeah yeah... | ||
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Updated list: Town: Marv (for reasons previously posted) BlazingHand (duh) Zeph (mega confirmation bais vs. me) prplzh (owait.) Null-ish: Ange (:effort: making me lean town on her) Mementoss (leaning town for reasons posted in thread) austinmcc (slightly townie - effortz, townie response to case against him early) Hiro (nullz) iamperfection (sorta scummy, mostly his vote here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369250¤tpage=27#526 - not sure if he's scumhunting or not) mkfuba (leaning scum) scum: Bluelightz Palmar Peace out folks | ||
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On September 21 2012 06:04 Mementoss wrote: well this is shit on 2 levels it doesn't confirm me town at all and i didn't hit scum. It doesnt? | ||
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SK's gonna claim vigi D1? Doubt it. | ||
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On September 21 2012 06:06 Mementoss wrote: Mafia should have 2 kp if 3 players or 1 kp SK and 1 kp mafia uh no? | ||
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To get things started. I've said all I've need to say, and he's my top scumread for now, with Palmar a close second. | ||
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