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marvellosity
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On September 20 2012 00:15 Palmar wrote: Get off my Hapa bro's case. Wtf is this shit, prplhz is not scum look at his big post after he started caring. why does that make him town? | ||
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On September 20 2012 00:02 austinmcc wrote: Look at all the reactions to this post I made. Palmar thinks I'm scum just from the too obvious comment. Marv found it scummy. Hapa found it scummy. I think another one or two people did as well. But Mementoss's reaction to my comment felt different. I don't read much into this. It's the kinda post I can see being made as either alignment. On September 20 2012 00:02 austinmcc wrote: He mentions me later, after Bluelightz questions him a little: I guess...I didn't feel pressured by his post. He doesn't call me scum. He doesn't call my scummy. He doesn't REALLY say anything about me above. This isn't a super-strong point, as indecisiveness usually ~ scumminess, but my problem with his initial reaction was that it wasn't strong, didn't call me out, didn't end in a vote, nothing. So I find his characterization of that post as being the only pressure he's put on a person other than prplhz this game to be off. It's not outright, flashing lights, scummy. But when it's a response to pressure and you're sort of...almost misrepresenting an earlier post, misrepresenting your play, it comes off scummy. It comes off like you don't have a good handle on the actions you've taken and are slightly scrambling to explain yourself to pressure. The thing is, I think you're actually misrepresenting Mementoss somewhat here. He said "the only other person I remotely pressured" - the way this is phrased clearly indicates to me that he wasn't calling it significant pressure. "I remotely pressured" - as in, I kinda pressured a bit. But you're saying that he's misrepresenting it as proper pressure, when I don't think that's actually the case. Some of the other parts of your case are stronger, though. The bits with the questioning on me/fuba without coming to an explanation. I think you also have a valid point that he voted prplhz early, but never updated his read on him despite all prplhz's other posting. Why has it taken you so long to come into the thread and contribute something, austin? | ||
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On September 20 2012 00:49 austinmcc wrote: So cruel. But so true for most of my D1 performance. What gets me though is that there has been so much to talk about in between where you went silent and this case. It bugs me tremendously that you say there was "nothing that caught your eye" or in other words nothing that made you want to get involved. It shows spectacular apathy even for your 'traditional' Day 1s. Gonna have to cogitate on it :/ | ||
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On September 19 2012 21:44 Mementoss wrote: Also more to note, this "divided town" thing how is it bad? It seems to me that we caught scum very early in the day 1, and scum is scrambling to put cases on everyone else to get the attention away from prplhz, the votes haven't been coming easy on prplhz despite him being the main discussion of day 1. Hell, he hasn't even reached majority yet this game. He's also had his share of people call him or his posting townie, yet prplhz hasn't really came back to scumhunt. Probably referring to this, Hapa. | ||
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On September 20 2012 02:56 mkfuba07 wrote: EBWOP: "He mentions them elsewhere, but doesn't explain them until after he's posted the list." I feel like at that point it's not even a summary, it's just a list of people who don't have to worry about being pressured by prplhz. Sorry for posting so much right now. I believe I have class during the deadline, and while I will have access to a computer for the later half of it, I can't guarantee that I'll have time to keep posting then. As your vote is currently on austinmcc, care to comment on his case and what you make of his recent activity? | ||
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On September 20 2012 03:04 Blazinghand wrote: It's amazing how prplhz only puts effort into this game when tons of people pressure him Could you be a little more constructive rather than your two offhand remarks about austin and prplhz you've done so far today? | ||
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My reads have fluctuated somewhat from earlier today. I agree with Hiro on the tone of your posts; I had found something off about your demeanour (I had thought it was that you were trying too hard to create yourself a story) and what he says rings true. My opinion on fuba has edged more towards scum. I find it bizarre that he's willing to vote you, but then pursues posts and content regarding prplhz, while completely disregarding any of the posts that you have made in the interim. If you were his main scumread (especially as most of his case seemed to be your inactivtiy) I would think that he should be interacting with your contributions since. I'd like others' opinion on this. To BlazingHand: the reason it was a pile of shit is that far more people have expressed the opinion that I'm town or a bad lynch than they have with austin. Corralling people into voting on specific candidates like that is bad play. To HiroPro: austinmcc did say that in Bureaucracy to be fair to him, or at the very least he said it to me with regards to his play in Bureaucracy. He's not lying about that. You're not going to get a lynch through on Hapahauli at this stage I think, so vote austin with me. Palmar's absence is fucking pathetic. prplhz has annoyingly come in to defend himself and then provided nothing else. I'm finding that pretty scummy because it hasn't moved conversation forward. On the flip side, I found Hiro's arguments about how prplhz behaves as town (sheeping strong players) as quite convincing; further I think prplhz's frustration is genuine; I also see (ironically) prplhz's failure to understand that listing townreads with explanation is bad as somewhat townie. I don't really wanna lynch Mementoss right now. You had some good points but I think his defence is genuine; in addition to this I feel that he's been playing a little lazily, which I can empathise with. In both PTP and LVII too he seemed quite scummy because of a lack of effort at points. | ||
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On September 20 2012 04:21 Palmar wrote: I don't even understand this game anymore. Here's the deal. prplhz isn't scum. There was a legit concern earlier that he might be but anyone that still thinks he's scum has their heads faaar up their asses. mementoss is probably not scum. marv and austinmcc both have a good chance of being scum, but I feel considerably better about marv. It's also very strange how hard it is to get any kind of a train rolling against marv. I've already explained why this guy is the one that needs to hang today. Can we consolidate there, please? well done for saying absolutely nothing. Stellar play right here. | ||
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On September 20 2012 04:26 marvellosity wrote: well done for saying absolutely nothing. Stellar play right here. For you, then Palmar: 1) still no explanation on why prplhz is town. "look he made a long post" is not an explanation 2) saying mementoss is probably not scum without giving any thoughts as to why either way is also completely useless 3) it's hard to get a train rolling because you're wrong and your case was bad, as pointed out by various people happy? | ||
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On September 20 2012 04:43 Palmar wrote: Fuck it. I'm off for a bit. I'll rather no-lynch than do a dumb lynch so see you guys later. nice moves there | ||
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