EPTOn September 21 2012 10:58 marvellosity wrote:
yeah, that wasn't the question, but it doesn't matter so much now.
yeah, that wasn't the question, but it doesn't matter so much now.
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iamperfection
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austinmcc
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On September 21 2012 10:54 marvellosity wrote: like seriously tell me austin, as a townie after a townie just died to the lynch, is it even possible to think that someone hopped on to a town lynch for town credit? I think I get what you're getting at, and the only way I can make that work is if ange thinks this was iamperfection's thought process: (1) prplhz is getting lynched (2) some townies are voting prplhz (3) townies think he's scum (4) I want the townies to think I am one of them (5) I will act like a townie and vote prplhz But that's kind of ridiculous. If you buy in to that, then you're in a mindset where iamperfection would think he could get towncred JUST BY VOTING in either direction - towncred for not lynching a townie, towncred for being with some townies. That's silliness. screw this answer. no, it's not really a possible thought. On September 21 2012 10:57 marvellosity wrote: I need to read the thread more closely if i'm missing shit like that on first pass awww, you're not that heavy. | ||
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Barbiero
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anyway, let's see.. First, nice shot Mementoss. Just because you didn't hit scum, doesn't mean it was a bad shot; we'd probably waste a good time of today discussing mkfuba uselessly. Now look at where we are with Ange(holy shit that's some deep discussions going on). That also puts you in a pretty good spot, I mean, even SKs want to hunt scum right? Now on to ange. Holy shit that's a lot of discussion. I find it hard to believe anyone involved on this discussion to be scum at this point. I don't remember a point where I disagree - maybe only the points where mementoss call ange and austin interactions, because pre-flip interactions when discussing a lynch so early isn't exactly helpful. I don't know where to start, so if you guys could ask me anything I'll gladly answer. Also I really want to see Palmar's play on day 2. If you are town, you better live up to your reputation. | ||
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Hapahauli
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NULLNULLNULLNULLNULL jk. But seriously, thoughts on the Ange case? Also, your thoughts on Bluelightz (or anyone else you find scummy) would be cool to have. | ||
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Barbiero
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iamperfection is my main scum read, and I don't think his voting would make him town. I mean, I'd do that vote if I were scum. It makes no sense as the vote won't matter at the time(prplhz would be lynched anyway), but the fact that you do it in the middle of that clusterfuck makes it look townie. I know this is wifom, but I can see that occuring with a scum player. As an example, think of Risen on TL Mafia LIII. There, he made some crazy voting/unvoting shenenigans on the last minute when the lynch targets were me and Ottoxlol IIRC. The way he made it made everyone follow the logic that "he is scum if Ottoxlol is scum and town if Ottoxlol is town". Ottoxlol was town, and he was scum. It seriously midfucked everyone. Well, at least me. This is why I don't think IMP's vote shenenigans would say anything about him being town. Someone mentioned that IMP was more careful when he played as scum, and that makes me think of another player: JingleHell. Last time I player scum with him, he told me he would be really aggressive/abrasive because he was careful on his previous scum game, and his 'town' meta was aggressive. IMP now and JH then are basically the same: greenhorns who just came out of their newbie games. This is why I don't believe that comparing IMP to his previous scum game will say anything about him being town either. The issue I have with a IMP lynch right now is this: when I tried to purse his filter for more reasons to kill him, he's proven to be incredibly useful post day1. So while I don't believe the above makes him town, he's been asking some pretty good questions. And this leads to Ange777. From what I understand, her death would say a lot about imp. Also, you guys did an incredible job at checking ange's actions - we basically need her to explain stuff and see if she's coherent - and she looks really bad after that night I guess. I want to see what everyone has to say about ange. | ||
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iamperfection
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On September 21 2012 11:46 Zephirdd wrote: As I said, Bluelightz is bluelightz. I can't fucking read him for good. I just ignore him. iamperfection is my main scum read, and I don't think his voting would make him town. I mean, I'd do that vote if I were scum. It makes no sense as the vote won't matter at the time(prplhz would be lynched anyway), but the fact that you do it in the middle of that clusterfuck makes it look townie. I know this is wifom, but I can see that occuring with a scum player. As an example, think of Risen on TL Mafia LIII. There, he made some crazy voting/unvoting shenenigans on the last minute when the lynch targets were me and Ottoxlol IIRC. The way he made it made everyone follow the logic that "he is scum if Ottoxlol is scum and town if Ottoxlol is town". Ottoxlol was town, and he was scum. It seriously midfucked everyone. Well, at least me. This is why I don't think IMP's vote shenenigans would say anything about him being town. Someone mentioned that IMP was more careful when he played as scum, and that makes me think of another player: JingleHell. Last time I player scum with him, he told me he would be really aggressive/abrasive because he was careful on his previous scum game, and his 'town' meta was aggressive. IMP now and JH then are basically the same: greenhorns who just came out of their newbie games. This is why I don't believe that comparing IMP to his previous scum game will say anything about him being town either. The issue I have with a IMP lynch right now is this: when I tried to purse his filter for more reasons to kill him, he's proven to be incredibly useful post day1. So while I don't believe the above makes him town, he's been asking some pretty good questions. And this leads to Ange777. From what I understand, her death would say a lot about imp. Also, you guys did an incredible job at checking ange's actions - we basically need her to explain stuff and see if she's coherent - and she looks really bad after that night I guess. I want to see what everyone has to say about ange. wtf is this. | ||
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iamperfection
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On September 21 2012 11:53 marvellosity wrote: just bad actually how bad bad bad or scum bad | ||
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Hapahauli
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1) That is a terrrrrible reason to think Iamperfection is scum. You think he's scum because JH shows a similar mentality as scum? I understand suspicion on meta, but suspicion based on another player's meta is wtf. I posted on iamperfection earlier, agree or disagree: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369250¤tpage=46#906 And this leads to Ange777. From what I understand, her death would say a lot about imp. Also, you guys did an incredible job at checking ange's actions - we basically need her to explain stuff and see if she's coherent - and she looks really bad after that night I guess. I want to see what everyone has to say about ange. Please actually say something about ange before you ask other people to talk about ange. | ||
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iamperfection
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marvellosity
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not sure. the whole post is really scummy though. it's mostly nonsense and his reaction to just everything isn't what i expected at all. | ||
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marvellosity
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That's seriously weak shit. | ||
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Hapahauli
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On September 21 2012 11:21 Hapahauli wrote: @ Zeph NULLNULLNULLNULLNULL jk. But seriously, thoughts on the Ange case? Also, your thoughts on Bluelightz (or anyone else you find scummy) would be cool to have. Turns out I was joking. SCUMSCUMSCUMSCUMSCUM | ||
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Barbiero
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ok. 1. The voting and the meta are no reasons to call IMP town. His latest posts during the night(questioning ange and stuff), however, are. 2. Ange is looking bad(aka likely scum) when reading all those cases you made. I think she has a decent chance to flip scum. I want to see what other players(Hiro, Bluez, Palmar, ...) have to say about Ange. Oh and I just realized I straight up contradicted myself on my post. iamperfection is my main scum read ... The issue I have with a IMP lynch right now is this: when I tried to purse his filter for more reasons to kill him, he's proven to be incredibly useful post day1. So while I don't believe the above makes him town, he's been asking some pretty good questions. So let me explain this. He was my main scum read, and when I tried to look up his filter in order to make a decent case, I changed my mind. I didn't change the first sentences of that post though. Sorry. | ||
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Barbiero
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iamperfection
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On September 21 2012 11:59 Zephirdd wrote: huuuh I guess I wasn't too straight with that post huh. ok. 1. The voting and the meta are no reasons to call IMP town. His latest posts during the night(questioning ange and stuff), however, are. 2. Ange is looking bad(aka likely scum) when reading all those cases you made. I think she has a decent chance to flip scum. I want to see what other players(Hiro, Bluez, Palmar, ...) have to say about Ange. Oh and I just realized I straight up contradicted myself on my post. So let me explain this. He was my main scum read, and when I tried to look up his filter in order to make a decent case, I changed my mind. I didn't change the first sentences of that post though. Sorry. so who is you main scum read then? | ||
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