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Hapahauli
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On September 19 2012 05:34 marvellosity wrote: also, I'll answer you on Palmar if you can give me a coherent scum motivation behind my blatant OMGUS gogogo I don't think there's a coherent scum motive - I think you are capable of doing it as scum or town. I would like an explanation on the contradiction, which until you answer it, makes me question your motives. | ||
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Hapahauli
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Palmar, blazinghand, hapahauli. Your opinions on prplhz? Slightly town. He's been fairly active, though not as aggressive as people would like. I've seen two games with mafia-prplhz where he cares much less about the game (GSL Open Mini and Dwarf Fortress Mini), and I have no reason to lynch him on meta. His posts so far are alright, not a fan of him sheeping on marv in the way that he did, but that's a null tell. I also consider this post slightly-townie: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369250¤tpage=6#113 It seems pretty open overall, hence the slight-townie read. | ||
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Hapahauli
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Well looking more at the "contradiction" I posted about marv, since he was scum in the game that he defended Palmar, it seems pretty weird for him to do a complete 180 on it if he were hypothetical mafia in this game. Null for now, unless Palmar comes up with something to backup his read. Mkfuba's silence is odd, as BH pointed out. Also I'll have to reconsider austinmcc, because he hasn't done anything but defend himself all game. | ||
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On September 19 2012 05:48 Zephirdd wrote: True. Do you think it's worth more to kill mkfuba now than say, prplhz(your top scum read)? Or is it a game of chances or something? Do you consider that post something that would never be made as scum? How is sheeping on marv a null tell, considering marv is now voting him again and his reasoning to vote Palmar was basically a 'lol'? He could make such a post as scum. I find it more likely that he'd make it as town though, hence the slight-townie read. Him sheeping on marv doesn't say anything about his alignment. Like really. I don't understand the rest of your question. | ||
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On September 19 2012 05:51 Blazinghand wrote: Hm, that's a really good question. I suppose you're right-- prplhz is more clearly scum so I should be focusing on getting him lynched. I'm gonna break with every rule and advice I've ever followed or given, though, and continue with this vote on mkfuba. The reason is simple. His play pisses me off (logically, not emotionally) and I refuse to let it go by. I will NOT allow him to live, I will NOT allow his tactics, his choices to be a viable scum strategy. This isn't a policy lynch, this is a matter of principle. He will not skate by. I'll take what you said about prplhz to heart, though. I'm gonna think about it and reread prplhz filter for a bit. Perhaps I should be voting him. Wait what? You think prplhz is more clearly scum, but you want to lynch mkfuba because of "principle?" | ||
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On September 19 2012 05:52 marvellosity wrote: I'm amazed you think weak sheeping from a seasoned player is a null tell, hapa. Seasoned players vote like that all the time, and I have yet to connect a mafia-mentality with prplhz. | ||
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The fact that you think you have a compelling case against prplhz and aren't perusing it really bothers me, especially since mkfuba's lurkiness can be attributed to any alignment given sets of contexts. | ||
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On September 19 2012 05:59 marvellosity wrote: So far all he's done is provide pointless townread and sheep pathetically, and you're reading town? Slightly-town yes. Mostly based on the post I linked before. | ||
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On September 19 2012 06:07 Zephirdd wrote: anyways I'm back to work. I want to see other people answering the stuff I asked What are your current reads Zeph? You don't have any outstanding votes, and I'm trying to figure out where you stand. | ||
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Someday... | ||
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On September 19 2012 09:46 mkfuba07 wrote: It's mostly that you give up a boatload of town reads and only commit to a scumread after the best scumhunter (or so I've been told) also votes for that person. The fact that that person is marv, who would be a big loss if he flips town (which I currently think he would), is a factor in that as well. So voting the top scumread of the best scumhunter makes someone scummy? I wasn't aware of that tell. | ||
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In addition to your IMP and prplhz reads, you talk a lot about Hiro. What is your stance on him? You didn't clarify it in your conclusion. | ||
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So I don't think prplhz is suspicious for now. Iamperfection is a bit trickier. He has this "I don't give a fuck" mentality towards any suspicion directed toward him, and that makes me lean town on him. Even though his post count has been lacking, I find his mentality more attributable to town than to mafia. The players that I'm most looking at now are those I feel are "coasting" through the game: Bluelightz mkfuba HiroPro HiroPro especially, because he's distanced himself from the prplhz talk completely. He criticized BH's case on him early in the day, and hasn't mentioned him once since, despite him being a dominant topic of discussion. | ||
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On September 18 2012 10:57 HiroPro wrote: What was it specifically about prplhz's post that you liked? On September 18 2012 14:25 HiroPro wrote: Why is the case on prplhz good, Zeph? He never follows up either of those questions, and overall has been extremely lurky. I'm not going to vote for now, as I've been throwing my vote around waaaaaaay too much today. I'm going to sleep on it, wait for his response, and decide. G'nite folks | ||
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Hapahauli
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Palmar - I've made it clear why I think lynching him D1 isn't a good idea. Ange - Feels townie, and similar enough with her other townie meta so far. Austinmcc - Could arguably be on the list for not doing much other than defending himself. He does sound genuine, and after defending his "too obvious" comment, he's drawn a lot of attention to his defense and hasn't been satisfied with me accepting it. Drawing attention to himself alot gives him some townie points in my book. | ||
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Hapahauli
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Have you seen some of the reasoning that people are voting him? Austin sheeped him apathetically. Bluelights sheeped him a looooing time ago. Blazhinghand thinks he's the scummiest player, but has voted for marv and mkfuba in the interim for questionable reasons. MMtoss voted him on Day 1, has discussed several other cases and has barely mentioned prplhz at all since. Ange is the only person who has something resembling reasonable suspicion on prplhz, and even then I highly disagree with it. I'll get to this more after class, but we should really be looking at some of the people on the prplhz wagon. Especially MMtoss. | ||
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I'll re-iterate what I said before. Mementoss voted for prplhz early in the game. He never once questioned prplhz, and hasn't mentioned him for well over 24 hours while having his vote on him. This makes no sense from a townie perspective. As for prplhz, I have a townie read on him. Too many people are sheeping his case. Things are coming together too easily. Finally, I don't agree with Ange's case. Ange reads his posts as "useless fluff", and therefore he's scum. I read his posts completely differently, and see a townie who's being open with his suspicions. For example, look how he voted marv, and explicitly stated he had reservations about it. That's not scum behavior. Voting for someone you don't believe is scum = scum behavior. Voting someone while expressing reservations is a cautious townie. What's the point of including that reservations line as scum? It's just as easy to sheep and tunnel marv without any reservations. To me, his "reservations" say that he's open about his reads and mentality. I believe prplhz is town. Please take a look at mementoss's filter. There's nothing townie about it. He seemingly forgot about his suspicions prplhz and has been trying to point fingers since. Like read his filter, he never has a definite scumread and has been fanning the flames of several cases made through the day; astinmcc, mkfuba, and most recently marv. | ||
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