Rockband Mini Mafia - Page 14

On September 23 2012 06:41 Hapahauli wrote:
Guys guys guys.

Guys.

Bluelightz? Still think he's scum, can someone comment on this?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369250&currentpage=59#1171

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On September 22 2012 01:15 austinmcc wrote:

The problem with this is that it doesn't give us anything.

Both are perfectly capable of setting this up as scumbuddies. I think both are capable of this if they're both town. I don't terribly want to flip either, and I don't think flipping either gives us a conclusive read on the other.

On September 22 2012 05:27 austinmcc wrote:
I have no desire to lynch palmar or marv today.

If I thought that either of them would feel heavily pressured by a few votes, I might cast my lot in to see what it shook out of one of em, but I see you being able to keep their cool as scum under pressure, and I don't want to play games when I'm so sure ange is scum and we've got her up for lynch right now.

On September 22 2012 06:42 austinmcc wrote:
IF Palmar is scum and IF he's dangerous because he can cause more confusion if left alive, then right now, the best opportunity for him to sow confusion is TO DO EXACTLY WHAT HE'S DOING.

-snip-

If you know Palmar so well, the flip side is also true. Palmar has played more games with you than with the rest of the players in this game, as far as I know. That means that IF he's going to be dicking with anyone's head, it's going to be yours. So quit letting him.

On September 22 2012 08:42 austinmcc wrote:

What would your read be on me if all you had was the TOO obvious post and the prplhz vote post?

What is your current read on mementoss?

If you had to choose a lynch target for today that wasn't you, palmar, or marv, who would you be looking at and why?

If we weren't playing mafia, and everyone in this thread was actually a mountain (except you), who would be the tallest mountain? Which mountain would have the most wildlife living on it?

On September 22 2012 01:15 austinmcc wrote:

The problem with this is that it doesn't give us anything.

Both are perfectly capable of setting this up as scumbuddies. I think both are capable of this if they're both town. I don't terribly want to flip either, and I don't think flipping either gives us a conclusive read on the other.

On September 22 2012 02:49 austinmcc wrote:
As long as we're playing connection games, I'm still wondering about this:




There's been far less Palmar --> Ange interaction when compared to Palmar --> Hiro, which is saying something I guess. Although there was a good amount of Ange --> Palmar action D1 where she was asking him lots of questions and trying to keep thread from letting him get by with what he was adding.

I still don't want to lynch Palmar, but only after pulling it back out do I realize how much I dislike him agreeing with "almost everything" in prplhz's list. I don't care as much about a lack of reasoning behind reads, but that post from his is actually NO reads. Agreeing with almost everything there tells us nothing about what he actually does and doesn't agree with, besides prplhz's read on Palmar himself.

On September 22 2012 05:27 austinmcc wrote:
I have no desire to lynch palmar or marv today.

If I thought that either of them would feel heavily pressured by a few votes, I might cast my lot in to see what it shook out of one of em, but I see you being able to keep their cool as scum under pressure, and I don't want to play games when I'm so sure ange is scum and we've got her up for lynch right now.

On September 23 2012 02:53 austinmcc wrote:

I think that as to the iamperfection bit that you're concerned about, there's a possibility she had a "logic meltdown." But I'm still convinced she's mafia.

Which I'm not [on Palmar], btw.

On September 22 2012 00:27 austinmcc wrote:

I don't know if you're trying to or not, but this keeps clogging up the thread. The majority of his posts have not included reasoning. You've got a lot of posts calling him out on that. We see the lack of reasoning; you can stop. Nobody is sitting in thread saying Palmar has done a great job of letting us see where he's getting his calls from. Nobody is sheeping his reads either. I still don't know what to make of Palmar, but 10 more discussions of how he's not giving full-throated reads isn't going to do anything for anyone.

Moreover, some of those reads DO have reasoning, but earlier in thread - I know iam was covered in his first reads, I believe he may have given reasoning for hiro at some point (not entirely sure there). There's no NEED for reasoning on hapa, and little need for anything on mementoss.

On September 22 2012 00:38 austinmcc wrote:

Yup, I was wrong. No reasoning on Hiro.

But no, it's not a reason to keep pointing it out, and it's especially not a reason to keep sniping at him. If you've been trying to potty train a kid for 8 years and he's still just peeing himself at the dinner table, then at some point you give up on it. You strap a diaper and a helmet on him and send him out into the world to go count to purple. Anybody who thinks, right now, "Palmar is giving a hell of a lot of good reasoning behind his reads" is that kid. Anybody who isn't doesn't need to be informed that there's still a lack of involvement.

Spend your energy elsewhere. I've seen you get tangled up with one person for an entire cycle, and it neuters your ability to do anything else. IF Palmar is scum, then it feels like that's what is going on, you're just being goaded into wasting all your effort on sniping/fuming/looking at Palmar.

On September 22 2012 02:49 austinmcc wrote:
As long as we're playing connection games, I'm still wondering about this:




There's been far less Palmar --> Ange interaction when compared to Palmar --> Hiro, which is saying something I guess. Although there was a good amount of Ange --> Palmar action D1 where she was asking him lots of questions and trying to keep thread from letting him get by with what he was adding.

I still don't want to lynch Palmar, but only after pulling it back out do I realize how much I dislike him agreeing with "almost everything" in prplhz's list. I don't care as much about a lack of reasoning behind reads, but that post from his is actually NO reads. Agreeing with almost everything there tells us nothing about what he actually does and doesn't agree with, besides prplhz's read on Palmar himself.

On September 22 2012 06:42 austinmcc wrote:
IF Palmar is scum and IF he's dangerous because he can cause more confusion if left alive, then right now, the best opportunity for him to sow confusion is TO DO EXACTLY WHAT HE'S DOING.

On September 23 2012 02:53 austinmcc wrote:

I think that as to the iamperfection bit that you're concerned about, there's a possibility she had a "logic meltdown." But I'm still convinced she's mafia.

Which I'm not [on Palmar], btw.

On September 23 2012 03:22 austinmcc wrote:

Oh I've pretty much come around on palmar being scum. But your worries about him wreaking havoc seem pretty unfounded.

Also, if Ange flips town I'll actually still be town.

On September 23 2012 05:08 austinmcc wrote:
Marv isn't doing that this game because he's bogged down with Palmar. EVEN if palmar is mafia, there's no need to shoot marv. Palmar's existence and taunting makes marv near-useless as townie, A FACT WHICH HE RECOGNIZES TO SOME EXTENT - + Show Spoiler +.

On September 23 2012 22:59 austinmcc wrote:

It was part off meta, yeah. Honestly remembered a TON of little questions in Bureaucracy that then led him to reads and conclusions, and it felt in PTP3 that he was asking less little questions, and then doing less with them. I was clearly wrong in reading him as scum.

A lot of the PTP3 lynch though was also off of mechanics. Shots on him that disappeared and were only explained by the fact that he didn't flip until after being dead. So the mechanics of his role kind of made him look scummy, when townies claimed to have shot at him yet the damage was missing.

On September 23 2012 23:42 iamperfection wrote:
im just having a hard time thinking the two biggest wagons were both on scum.

On September 23 2012 23:50 austinmcc wrote:

I'm pointlessly very speculative in large parts. I know it's entirely speculative, but I'd rather give my full thought process behind things, and really ange's answer to the mountain question is the biggest piece of me not thinking bluelightz is scum right now.

On September 24 2012 04:14 HiroPro wrote:


Yea, I was right.

On September 24 2012 04:52 HiroPro wrote:
yea you need to realize something. when you call people mafia for dumb reasons and then just act like they're confirmed scum, they're going to stop caring.

On September 24 2012 05:14 HiroPro wrote:
yea but you thought Palmar was scum. hapahuli and mementoss are like confirmed town and you're probably town too....