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On July 21 2012 04:38 syllogism wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 04:34 HiroPro wrote: Syllo, why do you think Palmar is mafia? You haven't really said anything specific: just that his tone/attitude are off and he's not putting in effort. It's his overall behavior, lack of effort and attitude towards me and sandroba especially. Some of his reads I think are genuine (for example what he says about layabout) and some clearly are not (his BM read). Can you find anything that indicates he cares about the town and wants to push town towards anything useful? He just pops in to say something irrelevant. Town palmar would never think I'm mafia by this point (as a side note, I actually think that there is a chance that he thought that I was early on and tried to "communicate" with me by random voting me).
if you don't want to listen to me, listen to syllogism
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On September 22 2012 05:04 Mementoss wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2012 05:00 marvellosity wrote:On July 21 2012 04:38 syllogism wrote:On July 21 2012 04:34 HiroPro wrote: Syllo, why do you think Palmar is mafia? You haven't really said anything specific: just that his tone/attitude are off and he's not putting in effort. It's his overall behavior, lack of effort and attitude towards me and sandroba especially. Some of his reads I think are genuine (for example what he says about layabout) and some clearly are not (his BM read). Can you find anything that indicates he cares about the town and wants to push town towards anything useful? He just pops in to say something irrelevant. Town palmar would never think I'm mafia by this point (as a side note, I actually think that there is a chance that he thought that I was early on and tried to "communicate" with me by random voting me). if you don't want to listen to me, listen to syllogism How is this out of context quote relevant to anything lol, its someones opinion on meta.
Because it directly applies to this game, it matches in every way. Palmar went after one of the stronger, more vocal town players in Bureaucracy (syllo), read me here. Hapa's all like "but this and this look genuine", here's syllo pointing out that as mafia Palmar does look like he's making genuine reads
"Can you find anything that indicates he cares about the town and wants to push town towards anything useful? He just pops in to say something irrelevant."
Again, a total mirror image of this game. He gives pointless town reads on iamperfection, but on important matters - prplhz, Ange, Hiro - he does nothing AT ALL.
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Every reason to think he's scum, read any of my posts on him in the last couple of pages. This is classic scum Palmar play. It's not really my fault you don't understand this.
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Palmar has proved his alignment today by refusing to elaborate on why Ange is a bad lynch, despite agreeing with prplhz's read that had Ange down in slightly scummy column.
He's also proved it by refusing to elaborate at any point, especially today, on why Hiro is scum.
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The similarities are pretty clear in going after syllo and going after me. Yes, I was quiet at the start of this game, but Palmar also knows I am a threat to him in particular. Palmar has often said that syllo has the best grasp of his alignment of anyone in TL Mafia, and he went after him. Who knows Palmar's play better than me here? Anyone?
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no, it's completely irrelevant.
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On September 22 2012 05:27 austinmcc wrote: I have no desire to lynch palmar or marv today.
If I thought that either of them would feel heavily pressured by a few votes, I might cast my lot in to see what it shook out of one of em, but I see you being able to keep their cool as scum under pressure, and I don't want to play games when I'm so sure ange is scum and we've got her up for lynch right now.
Problem is, you're wrong.
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On September 22 2012 05:26 Mementoss wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2012 05:23 Zephirdd wrote:On September 22 2012 05:15 Mementoss wrote:While were here throwing out random quotes I found an interesting one: On September 07 2012 05:32 marvellosity wrote: I will tell you why your post was not formed in the manner of the most intelligent, prplhz, my good sir.
Scum marvellosity sees something dodgy that Risen has written, and aggressively pursues scum Risen for it. He won't let it go and in fact makes scum Risen look worse and worse with each passing post. Having made scum Risen look awful to the thread, to the point where everyone is piling on to him, scum marvellosity decides to remove any credit he might have for the flip by unvoting him without much reason.
Therefore scum marvellosity's masterplan is to get scum Risen lynched completely unnecessarily and give himself no credit for it.
scum marvellosity is a fucking genius. Replace Risen with Palmar and apply the bolded parts for Day1/Night1 and Day 2? Does this sound right to you? they were both town and it was day 1 IIRC we are at day 2 and palmar has done jack shit The context is not the point, its the point that its Marv's opinion on his own scum play, which is going to be more accurate than anyone elses opinion on his scum play.
the whole post was entirely sarcastic. what's wrong with you?
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You should be voting for Palmar. Everyone should. Probably Ange and Palmar are both mafia, but Palmar is way more of a threat.
The discussion of the last few pages demonstrates that enough
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because, for example, he already got Hapa, someone I hold in high regard as to logic and reading abilities, totally confused about his interactions with Ange/Hiro/whoever. This isn't something Ange does.
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he is because he already threw you off reads in connection with him.
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The whole way Palmar plays mafia is to sow enough confusion into town that by the time he's lynched town don't know who's connected to what or where.
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On September 22 2012 06:01 Mementoss wrote: Only Mafia would consider Palmar a threat tbh.
if you ever want to win a town game, you might wanna listen to people who know what they're talking about
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no, you're just being bad.
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On September 22 2012 06:05 Mementoss wrote: agree with marv or your bad
no, say stupid, retarded crap like "only mafia consider Palmar a threat" is bad.
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no it's not entirely on meta.
this game Palmar has done nothing, he let his townread prplhz get lynched without intervening, he's saying Ange shouldn't be lynched but he isn't intervening, he's called scum for the whole game without ANY explanation.
That is all WITHIN THIS GAME.
The meta merely matches perfectly to how completely useless and irrelevant he's been in every way this game.
But yes, I consider my reads better than yours because I've actually won some games as town.
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EBWOP: he's called HIRO scum
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I'm not, town should be lynching him, that's all.
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That's nice. We should still be lynching him
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