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On September 19 2012 02:55 Drazerk wrote: Opz that is a terrible reason to call people scum Insanity in a caller game is just a rule of thumb I seriously hope you die during the night phase, but I'm voting you just in hopes you hang. Attempting to fraternize with the common enemy and talking in the annoying rhyme crap again.
I will support any vig shot on you, and acrofales. I have not forgotten.
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What about me? You going to policy vig shot me for the last Caller game? Lol.
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On September 19 2012 02:55 Drazerk wrote: Opz that is a terrible reason to call people scum Insanity in a caller game is just a rule of thumb Also, I don't know nothing about how he plays, but apologizing, red flag, posting a lot when the whole zeph thing was going on, but this is his only thing he has relating to it,
On September 18 2012 01:52 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2012 23:57 Zephirdd wrote: Besides, how the hell do you know he is NOT your slav comrad? I can understand the "slav = town as a whole" train of thought here. But instead of sticking with that, immediately claiming Bosnian cop is funky. A whole cycle left to try and propose a better lynch target, and instead insta-claim in a game with 4 trillion roleblockers. Moreover, in the spirit of being incredibly paranoid: Show nested quote +On September 13 2012 23:40 Caller wrote: There may also be an undisclosed number of unique roles.
Zephirdd is claiming to be the most powerful cop, as only the bosnian cop would know whether a turk check was bosnian or turk. However, we don't know for sure that turk doesn't have a gf role or something similar. Can't be ENTIRELY sure that even if Zephirdd wasn't roleblocked, he wouldn't get a green check on a gf role, or fake a check as a turk, or whatever.
He discusses in depth possibilities, outcomes, ect. Doesn't say how he feels though. That's all his posts. Not insanity.
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On September 19 2012 02:53 ~OpZ~ wrote:This guy is scum. He has quite a few posts in this thread, but namely they all equate to pictures, or set up talk. Often the set up talk turns out being wrong, i.e. last page where he says there would be two left over if all teams had four and turks had six. Page 15 is a great example, lots of set up talk, and makes jokes. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=368522¤tpage=15So just to be short, Austin, why are all of your posts image macros, apologies for possibly offending people, and set up talk, and jokes? In short, caller game?
The images are pretty clearly in response to Kurumi's pictures. If there's actually some minigame being played, then I'm doing what I can. I just happen to be making different responses than "##REMOVE BLACK HAND".
As to the numbers, I don't ever say that. Read my post. If every faction has 4 players, there ARE two people left over. Scum is a faction. Turks are a faction. If you look at an earlier post, I've got 4/4/4/4/4/6 as my probable numbers. However, while it may be nitpicky and pedantic, the Turks are a faction here and if every faction has 4 players, you DO have two left over.
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On September 19 2012 03:05 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2012 02:55 Drazerk wrote: Opz that is a terrible reason to call people scum Insanity in a caller game is just a rule of thumb Also, I don't know nothing about how he plays, but apologizing, red flag, Opz, the apology was because I ended up posting an upside-down cross in thread. That's kind of one of those things that might really offend someone, for reasons entirely outside of the game. Entirely separate from apologizing for being new, for not having time, for whatever, it's an apology for having no idea that I shat on a religious symbol. Sort of a no-no.
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On September 19 2012 03:13 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2012 02:53 ~OpZ~ wrote:On September 19 2012 00:55 austinmcc wrote: This guy is scum. He has quite a few posts in this thread, but namely they all equate to pictures, or set up talk. Often the set up talk turns out being wrong, i.e. last page where he says there would be two left over if all teams had four and turks had six. Page 15 is a great example, lots of set up talk, and makes jokes. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=368522¤tpage=15So just to be short, Austin, why are all of your posts image macros, apologies for possibly offending people, and set up talk, and jokes? In short, caller game? The images are pretty clearly in response to Kurumi's pictures. If there's actually some minigame being played, then I'm doing what I can. I just happen to be making different responses than " ##REMOVE BLACK HAND". As to the numbers, I don't ever say that. Read my post. If every faction has 4 players, there ARE two people left over. Scum is a faction. Turks are a faction. If you look at an earlier post, I've got 4/4/4/4/4/6 as my probable numbers. However, while it may be nitpicky and pedantic, the Turks are a faction here and if every faction has 4 players, you DO have two left over. Sir, Caller game is a poopy excuse. With that excuse none of us should even play. Please improve.
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I was just pointing it out to everyone else. I'm gonna ignore Drazerk and Acrofales in regards to it. I would like other peoples opinion on your play. How do you feel about Zephrid? How do you feel about Drazerk trying to ally with the turks? You haven't posted, yet you've been here?
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On September 19 2012 03:24 ~OpZ~ wrote: I was just pointing it out to everyone else. I'm gonna ignore Drazerk and Acrofales in regards to it. I would like other peoples opinion on your play. How do you feel about Zephrid? How do you feel about Drazerk trying to ally with the turks? You haven't posted, yet you've been here?
This it?
![[image loading]](http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-A0E_F1EnWps/T9ZS7c17JXI/AAAAAAAAAls/1WCUa6hYPtM/s1600/it.png)
Or with regards to what it am I being ignored?
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On September 19 2012 03:24 ~OpZ~ wrote: I was just pointing it out to everyone else. I'm gonna ignore Drazerk and Acrofales in regards to it. I would like other peoples opinion on your play. How do you feel about Zephrid? How do you feel about Drazerk trying to ally with the turks? You haven't posted, yet you've been here?
As for Zephirdd I feel like he might be honest with his initial response of:On September 18 2012 00:00 Zephirdd wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2012 23:59 marvellosity wrote:On September 17 2012 23:57 Zephirdd wrote: No Acrofales. I don't care about Drazerk really.
I just want the most disruptive player in the recent history of TL Mafia gone.
##Vote grush57
Besides, how the hell do you know he is NOT your slav comrad? Zephirdd rolled scum Setup says Slav factions know who each other are, even if you can't talk to them ##Vote: Zephirdd If you are slav and I am slav, we are slav comrades. That was my train of logic at least. From that point of view, Zephirdd was asking how acro knew that drazerk wasn't a SLAV, all factions as a whole, rather than part of his specific nationality.
Don't love that Zephir then immediately claimed bosnian and bosnian secret police. But I don't feel that's lynchworthy.
As for Drazerk, I think he's being Drazerk. He's claimed a nationality. He's claimed a non-bosnian/non-turk nationality. That means ANY cop can check him tonight and see if he's telling the truth. Either he is what he says he is, or he's scum. Ta da! Drazerk taken care of. If you think that's wasting a check, then I still don't care about Drazerk. People have already pointed out that it's pretty unlikely for a turk to walk into the thread and go "Sup Drazerk, I'm a Turk, let's be friends!" So even if nobody checks Drazerk to confirm him, the outcome of his asking for an alliance is: (1) nothing happens or (2) a turk outs himself for absolutely no reason. Neither of those is an anti-town outcome. Neither of those is bad for my faction specifically. So why would I care about Drazerk's claim?
Are you ACTUALLY worried that Drazerk is scum? Are you ACTUALLY worried that a scum mason is going to get in touch with Drazerk, work out some plan to off town? Do you actually think Drazerk is seriously offering to medic protect a scum player instead of a member of his faction? We can talk about Drazerk's medic claim, Koreatian claim, or alliance request...but ultimately none of it matters. Nothing will come of it that's anti-town.
Finally, while I agree that "caller game" is a poor excuse, you may not think it be like it is, but it do. I'm hoping for a sillier and more fun mafia game than in a normal. I'm also playing to win for my faction.
But halfway through D1, we've got a dedicated Yugioh. We have whatever Toadesstern is. We may have a minigame within the game, involving the co-host posting pictures inside the thread and expecting us to respond to them somehow. I think you're going to have to lighten up and accept that, to some extent, there is going to be some silliness and some pictures posted.
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On September 19 2012 03:40 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2012 03:24 ~OpZ~ wrote: I was just pointing it out to everyone else. I'm gonna ignore Drazerk and Acrofales in regards to it. I would like other peoples opinion on your play. How do you feel about Zephrid? How do you feel about Drazerk trying to ally with the turks? You haven't posted, yet you've been here?
This it? ![[image loading]](http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-A0E_F1EnWps/T9ZS7c17JXI/AAAAAAAAAls/1WCUa6hYPtM/s1600/it.png) Or with regards to what it am I being ignored? Acro scum. Clearly posting that picture to keep anyone with a fear of clowns from looking through his filter.
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Turks win another one! 3:0! Slavs go home!
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Okay. My summary of the game so far: I trust noone. Noone trusts each other. There is some consensus to lynch turks first. Zephirdd is a turk. We lynch Zephirdd. Sheth next.
That said, there are still some loose ends. Hiro... you seemed rather upset that I didn't respond to your pressure thingy at the start of the game. It's bugging me that you were fishing for a response, but then, when I eventually responded, you completely ignored it. What's up? What were you fishing for?
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Not much. I just felt like being annoying.
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@austin
wat. drazerk is koreatian or I'd suspect there'd be some real koreatians pointing fingers.
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On September 19 2012 03:59 talismania wrote: @austin
wat. drazerk is koreatian or I'd suspect there'd be some real koreatians pointing fingers. I'm in the same boat. My bit on Drazerk above was because I dunno why Opz is concerned with him or his alliance request.
- He's either town or will get outed as scum quickly by a Koreatian or check
- His alliance request results in nothing happening or turks outing themselves, neither bad for town
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On September 19 2012 04:04 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2012 03:59 talismania wrote: @austin
wat. drazerk is koreatian or I'd suspect there'd be some real koreatians pointing fingers. I'm in the same boat. My bit on Drazerk above was because I dunno why Opz is concerned with him or his alliance request. - He's either town or will get outed as scum quickly by a Koreatian or check
- His alliance request results in nothing happening or turks outing themselves, neither bad for town
Or we could lynch Drazerk and be done with his antics. Killing Drazerk is never a bad plan!
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that's dumb. don't lynch slavs.
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What's with these pictures and random ## w/e?
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On September 19 2012 01:05 Z-BosoN wrote:.... on another non-thread-derailing note, Killing turks should be everyone's number one priority. Allying them makes no sense. Turks will already want them dead and will do what they can to push lynches on them, without your "help". Show nested quote +Hey just because you didn't think of it don't blame me which ever team allies with the turks is the place to be
Logically it makes the most sense to win the game now why won't a representative come out you guys are being very lame
If you really think you can take out the Romanians between the town parties you guys are idiots Without the turks they will win the game in the later stages so stop thinking in immediates I don't know if this is another "trap", obviously no Turk in their sane minds would claim. If you want to talk logically, then the best course of action is to try to make the turks NK other factions & lynch turks. Your whole concept of "allying turks" is ridiculous to me. Moreover, if you actually meant that, then you wouldn't bother saying it out loud so we can all happily ally turks. Of course, if you are a slav, which I don't think you are.
I don't think allying with the turks is a necessarily stupid thing for a faction to attempt at all. If they could get the Turks to NK the other factions first and in return not actively pursue and lynch Turks, it would be a good trade for both of them until the inevitable backstab happens. However, there is no method I know of for out-of-thread communication between members of different factions, so the Turks would have to sacrifice one of their members to make this work. I don't think they would do this unless that person is already in trouble/about to be lynched.
Now to my biggest concern about your post: I don't think a Slav would interpret an "I want to ally turks"-proposal as a scum tell, because it's simply not - it's one Slav player thinking how to best use the setup to his advantage. I think you are artificially blowing up the issue, which strikes me as scum play.
Therefore, I am in the mood to Remove Z-BosoN, at least until he happens to explain himself.
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On September 19 2012 04:15 talismania wrote: that's dumb. don't lynch slavs.
who said he's a slav
he could just be a turk pretending he wants to make a deal with the turks
unless i've missed something while not reading the thread very attentively
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