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Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
September 07 2012 16:47 GMT
#327
Risen you keep saying that you have made cases... But have you really? All you have done is calling people who wrote reason for yourself being scum as scum for using said reasons. You have called V7 scum after his case. Called Keir scum after his case and later called your defence a case on keir. Now you call me scum because I haven't unvoted you. Oh and Marv was scum because he unvoted you? Is that correct?

You are drowning and reaching for anything to grab on to. Or so it appears. I hope you are a good swimmer

Everyone voting is scum or what?
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
September 07 2012 16:51 GMT
#329
About the bussing. That wasn't about this game (while it is still true I would bus my teammate if I were scum) specificly. It was generel advace that you acn't think what scum or wouldnt do.

And yes that was emotional because you basicly called me a liar about my personal life. Something I would never do to win a game of mafia.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
September 07 2012 18:18 GMT
#359
Very... um... mature?

This will be my last post before deadline.

Risen I'll tell you why I think you are scum and you can take ir or leave it. Consider the fact that several people (not only scum trying to get you lynched) read your game as scum might indicate that its your play that is wrong. Or at least in this game.

You have been the most active yes. That is correct. But during your impressive filter for day1 with 9 players you have contradicted yourself several times and been wishy washy about stuff. Like prplhz being scum, like hopping on everyone that voted you, like if marv was scum he would do X (what ange pointed out). Your VT claim early on (which you yourself said was stupid later). All you have maneged with all your posts are to confused people what you actually meant while trying desperatly to explain your thoughts. While it all might be the way you say it is, thats not what I read in your filter.

You attacked BL when he said he believed your VT claim. Getting defensive over small things and nitpicking small things in other. You post longwinded posts about meta between you and Marv that doesn't really serve a purpose or have a point.

You have done so many things that are either useless or slightly scummy for me to feel very good about lynching you. If you are town (which I hope you are not) you have still done your duty as town and have made people react and thus we can use that information going forward.

Martyring is for quitters.

"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
September 08 2012 10:04 GMT
#451
Keirathi why do you feel bad about the Risen lynch? He was the most scummy in the game and we lynched his ass. Only scum feel they need to apologize for there choice of lynch to not seem detached.

Yes he was town and that sucks but the lynch was good.

I'll be re-reading my notes (and updating them) and re-reading day 1 tomorrow. Gut feeling have me pointing fingers at zeph and vader7. Nothing substantial yet though...
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
September 09 2012 11:15 GMT
#481
I'm with BL. Lets lynch Marv =)

"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
September 09 2012 14:03 GMT
#483
Shame you answered first marv. I was interested in seeing how others would react but thats kinda ruined now That I was hungover from last night and just wanted to troll a bit...

I have no intention of lynching you - so far.

On September 09 2012 03:03 Ange777 wrote:
Risen

I said I can understand his frustration because partially people were accusing him based on his starting post which I have stated more than once seems like a normal fluff post to me. I did vote for him as well but not because of that post.

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On September 08 2012 06:06 Risen wrote:
Lynch order: Marv > Dirk > Zeph > Keir > prpl. Pray you guys hit scum sometime in those first three or it's just over anyways.


So this is the lynch order Risen has suggested. Out of his list there are a few players I have my suspicions about. One of them is:

Zeph

Zeph initially started off with a defense of Risen based on meta. When re-reading his case and vote on Risen there is something odd which didn't trigger any bells earlier as I was too preoccupied with Risen's own posts to notice this.

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On September 08 2012 01:45 Zephirdd wrote:
On September 06 2012 07:10 Risen wrote:
On September 06 2012 07:06 marvellosity wrote:
prplhz's vote is definitely not worse than Risen's

stop being dumb


You know very well my first post was meant to start discussion and point out some mildly scummy things prpl had said in his post. Then he comes back with an extreme overreaction in the form of OMGUS? Scum.


First time he actually calls prplhz being scum(without actually saying that directly to him) which was after my post.

Point: He thinks prplhz is scum.

On September 06 2012 08:11 Risen wrote:
On September 06 2012 07:55 marvellosity wrote:
let's not kill prplhz


Why not? He's the scummiest one in thread so far.


He still thinks prplhz is scum


On September 07 2012 00:54 Risen wrote:
From Zephirdd's post
"Why do you think prplhz is scum? Tell us chronologically."

I never actually thought he was scum, he was just the scummiest guy in a thread of like 3 posters so he got the ball rolling. His reaction has not sat very well with me, but I really don't like your first sentence in that other post about me being town or at least playing to town meta or something. It just feels really superfluous to the point you were trying to make.


Wait a second. I asked you to tell us why did you think he was scum chronologically, which is the moment you first thought he was scum, why was that. But you never actually thought he was scum?

Secondly, he was the scummiest guy in the thread!? I mean, I don't know about you, but the moment I think someone is scummy, is the moment I think someone is scum. There are varying degrees, but that's how it works. If he was the scummiest, how was he NOT scum?

On September 07 2012 03:31 Risen wrote:
On September 07 2012 03:29 Keirathi wrote:
Also, for that matter, you repeatedly said "prplhz is scum". Except you never actually tried to convince anyone of it. You just kept repeating it ad nauseum, then when people started calling you out on it, you backtracked into saying "I never really thought he was scum anyways".

There's no townie motivation for that. Period.


Except that whole starting discussion thing.

And the fact that I still find prplhz scummy. My backtrack is nonexistent you just keep saying that over and over b/c you have no real point.

I also find you more scummy than prplhz, my vote is where it should be.

What so he is scummy. IS HE SCUM OR NOT RISEN? DO YOU THINK HE IS SCUM OR NOT, AND WHY?
(that was a rhetorical question btw)

-snip-

##unvote
##vote Risen

HAMMER THAT


There is anything wrong with calling someone the scummiest guy in the thread and not being 100% sure if he is scum or not. Especially this early into a game when we only have a handful of posts to judge the alignments of every single player. Yet you paint it as if Risen had contradicted himself. I can see no contradiction in his posting regarding prplhz. Going for an early pressure vote, you can't sound weak or people will not take the pressure seriously. So there is nothing wrong with calling someone scum directly and than when having to clarify stating that he was the scummiest player at that time.

While Keir was following the same line of thought in his own case previously, I feel a town vibe from his posts given the fact that Keir was posting actively and was discussing the said case with Risen. Zeph however only sheeped Keir's case without adding anything substantial of his own. And he only voted when it was pretty sure that Risen was set to be lynched.

Now Zeph is taking an easy way out with this post:

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On September 08 2012 12:53 Zephirdd wrote:
In two days I should have some clear reads on players though, making sure who is on whose's side. I'll start with bluelightz - I won't let you get away.


Why does it take you two days to get more reads? As long as we actively hunt for scum there will be discussion in this thread even without Risen and with that everyone of us should be able to get better reads. All you are doing is calling Bluelightz out without applying any real pressure.

Right now, Zeph's play feels incredibly scummy. I have yet to see real scum hunting. Instead all I see is sheeping another player's case in voting a town player. No effort in looking for scum yourself. Because you yourself are scum?

@Bluelightz: What made you decide to vote for V7 and not one of the other players whom you haven't commented on. I suppose you have a null read on the rest of us as well?


##Vote Zephirdd

Yes I'm sheeping. This post is the best so far in this game Ange was town. I have my own feelings about zeph which ange pointed out really well in this post and:

On September 07 2012 22:17 Dirkzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 22:07 marvellosity wrote:
Dirk, tell me about Zeph dear.


Zephirdd always tickles my scumbells. Like ALWAYS. I can never read him. Same this game.

He gives a bad reason for voting prplhz over Risen - scummy.

He then talks about the stupid kenpachi rule for the rest of his posts.

He complains that no one is posting while not really producing anything himself.

"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
September 09 2012 14:59 GMT
#486
It wasn't you I was trying to play Marv...
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
September 09 2012 15:11 GMT
#488
Not wasting time? what about his rambling about the kenpachi rule?
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
September 09 2012 20:54 GMT
#496
Zeph plays like he did in PTP3. Where he was scum.

He still got my vote.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
September 10 2012 06:17 GMT
#516
Zephirdd: I've just skimmed your case on marv and I only see 3 arguments to that entire post. So before I start digging in the filters please confirm this. You think marv is scum because

1) Meta
2) His "slip" about NMM2/NMM3
3) revesed OMGUS because he voted me with OMGUS

When you put it up like that its a really weak case.

But I'll look at filters later...
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
September 10 2012 06:33 GMT
#517
On September 10 2012 15:08 vaderseven wrote:
God I don't like any of the current cases at all.

I will be around to answer questions AND i have next two days off work so I'll be a bit more active.


Then answer me this: Who is scum?
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
September 10 2012 08:27 GMT
#519
What? Nothing. Not just a little tiny read on someone?

I'll ask differently then. What do you think about Zephs case on marv and marv's lack of defence to that case?
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
September 10 2012 10:44 GMT
#523
On September 10 2012 12:07 Zephirdd wrote:

Town marvellosity isn't this bad. He had a scum read on me and threw a vote on the worst person to get a vote, which is Dirkzor. Dirkzor, the one guy known for having convoluted logic. The one guy that is more mislynched as town than marv is shot as town. town marvellosity does not straight OMGUS'es without an essay worth of reasons. This is a lazy post that allows him to have a vote parked somewhere and to make him look like he is contributing.


I can't remember being lynched as town tbh... Can't remember ever to be lynched. Hmm... convoluted logic? =(

I have to check now...
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
September 10 2012 11:07 GMT
#526
I'm not really. I looked at back through all my games and I have never been lynched. As scum or town. Been shot once (last game bu Mattchew) and blew myself up once.. Otherwise I'm usually around until endgame. (which means I'm never a big threat to scum =/ )
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
September 10 2012 11:45 GMT
#529
He gives out his townreads.. Thats very townielike for BL to do. I just don't find him particular scummy just... bad... which is usually a give away that he is town. Also I'm not that worried about BL later if we so happen to get to MYLO. He have also clearly stated his read about zephirdd so lynching him will give us more infomation on BL.

That and I find zephirdd scum. So thats why I'm voting there. His entire case on Marv is reaching and meta. to be fair I sstill havent read the filters yet but the entire case just lack real substance to me.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
September 10 2012 15:54 GMT
#569
On September 10 2012 15:08 vaderseven wrote:
God I don't like any of the current cases at all.

I will be around to answer questions AND i have next two days off work so I'll be a bit more active.

HELLOOOO!!!

Where did all your activity go? I want to vote you more and more V7.

I'll try to figure out the marv/zeph things later.

Zpeh could you point out why marv i scummy besides meta stuff and his lack of cases this game?
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
September 10 2012 17:35 GMT
#600
If Zpehs Nestea claim is to be believed and I do believe in it. No reason for scum to gamble like that with a nestea claim that can easily mean that they loose one member. They have no way of knowing if there is a Nestea in the game or not (50% chance) so its rather risky to claim. Considering Zeph made crumbs make me believe this isn't a "omg I'm getting Lynched I'll just claim to make take a townie with me".

So that leaves him out for the lynch. Vader vanished after saying he would have the whole day off work and would be more active. Only reason I can see for disappearing is because town was already dead set on lynching Zephirdd who he didn't really care about.

On September 06 2012 12:09 vaderseven wrote:
First off, I agree with prplhz that his vote on Risen is NOT an omgus. I also agree with his general read on Risen and would like to add to it.

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On September 06 2012 05:57 Risen wrote:
(img removed by vaderseven)

I am Fruitdealer. I am able to use my brain to track people down. I advocate a platform of macro-oriented play. If we play smart and safe, I'm confident we can hold off the dirty cheesers left among us. We are an elite group, we 9, don't let filthy cheesers ruin our gameplay!!!

On September 06 2012 05:48 prplhz wrote:
hello

everybody should write something then i'll read it tomorrow evening and tell you who is scum

also can anybody explain to me who ange777 is?

thanks


Let's start the day by analyzing this post. We can see he offers the olive branch, while at the same time attempting to fake a punch with his threat of cases later. His question is meant to give thread presence, while simultaneously doing jack shit. He's going to be gone for a while, let's make it a permanent leave of absence.

##vote: prplhz


This post bothers me alot. Your first post is to declare, with a big bold picture and green text, that you are Green and that we should trust you. You go on to say some feel good stuff about how we will win cuz we are awesomesauce or something.

What prplhz wrote there is fairly standard first post kinda stuff. He is asking people to post so that he can scum hunt... so that makes him scum??

I see no merit to that thought.

I really just don't like your play at all this game Risen. I am feeling fairly sure, for a day 1, that you are either not thinking AT ALL before you post (and I think I recall playing with you before and not thinking that) or you are scum and just not doing a 100% job of hiding it. Of the two possibles there, I find it a fair chance for it to be that you are aggressive scum that is hiding it poorly.

##vote Risen


Vaders first post is made to attack Risen while defend Prplhz. Something I found strange at the time since both persons reason for voting eachother was stupid. Why take a stance with so little infomation and equally shitty posts from 2 different persons.

On September 08 2012 15:05 vaderseven wrote:
Risen played horribly. That sucks. :/

The smiley gets my scumbells ringing. Screams false investment in the lynch. "Oh look at me I'm sad he died I'm so town"

On September 09 2012 09:49 vaderseven wrote:
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On September 09 2012 07:05 Keirathi wrote:
GG Ange.

I was roleblocked.


That narrows down the setup types possible OR you are lieing in order to make us think that. Not saying you are a liar btw.

"Not saying you are a liar btw" Then what is the point of this post? Yes there is a distinct possible that Keir is lieing but we all know that. All the post did was blow into the ashes of uncertainty: "Did he lie or not?" without saying anything direct himself.

On September 10 2012 16:54 vaderseven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 15:33 Dirkzor wrote:
On September 10 2012 15:08 vaderseven wrote:
God I don't like any of the current cases at all.

I will be around to answer questions AND i have next two days off work so I'll be a bit more active.


Then answer me this: Who is scum?


I have no leads atm.


If you don't like the cases you make your own case. He stated he have the time due to time of work and promised activity but he haven't posted since.

All you know from reading Vaders filter is that Risan was scummy and Prplhz first post wasn't scummy.

##unvote
##Vote Vaderseven


I would not be surprised by a prplhz vader scumteam
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
September 10 2012 17:39 GMT
#602
Guys BL is doing his thing. He always have his own targets and when he is town by some miracle he is right quite often.

You should vote Vader, if not to policy lynch him for promising activty and failing to deliver, then because of my awesome case on him and his careless approach to the game and his inactivity.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
September 10 2012 19:52 GMT
#612
WHERE IS VADER AND PRPLHZ!?!?!
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
September 10 2012 20:25 GMT
#613
So everyone is content with Vader lynch? Even vader himself? with 1½ hour to lynch I had expected more traffic here... I'm currently re-reading d1. Nothing have caught my attention yet...
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
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